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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 15 2013 00:13 GMT
#978
Ah, bollocks.


It's possible that either the role creator thought BH was scum, or was AFK when Oats started getting votes (maybe Hassy is his role creator for instance).
If not then it indeed doesn't make much sense.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 15 2013 21:50 GMT
#1102
On February 16 2013 05:19 austinmcc wrote:
gonzaw. What's your read on me?


Considering everybody else, you seem the most townie at the moment.
I guess you could be scum like in Aperture (you were pretty active there), but considering some factors and you contributing quite enough on D1 and stuff I'm not going to bother taking that into account yet.

This game is so frustrating to try and get into. Some players haven't posted anything at all since like 50 hours ago, and everybody else is in this cloudy null pile, some of them not doing much either.
I cba to read everybody's filter too.

From gut feeling I'd say Keirathi (didn't like him just throwing out "yeah lynch gonzaw" without even trying to justify it, and when he did he did so indirectly until I called him out), and maybe Sylencia or another lurker, and maybe another one of the active/semi-active like kita/Kurumi/Dandel/iamperfection/marv.

I have a plan for tonight though. One thing my role creator did right lol.

P.S:
On February 15 2013 09:32 austinmcc wrote:
Role-related

80085

07734

1134


2+2=5...?
lol austin why do you post so much cryptic stuff
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 15 2013 21:52 GMT
#1108
Dunno what instruction manual you'd like, that's not my fault lol
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 15 2013 21:54 GMT
#1112
You did?
...
Wait I checked and the first time you mention me is when you post the "Aperture 2 WLIIA" stuff
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 15 2013 21:58 GMT
#1118
Well, I guess I could find an instruction manual for you, with lots of diagrams and pictures and bullet points to make things easier.
But I doubt that'll actually help you
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 16 2013 02:04 GMT
#1171
Jesus Christ...this game....

Who the fuck killed austin? Like seriously, all this game I wanted to see how that role would fare and he gets killed on N1 ffs.
Thanks for ruining my fun dickhead. Now town may as well likely lose so there goes any slight fun I may have without taking into account austin's role.
(If it wasn't obvious I made his role already)


Anyways, last night I "poisoned" someone, who is still alive now. This guy will die in 48 hours from now, which means right as this D2 ends.
However, I can give him an antidote and he won't die.
Thus, if he convinces me he's town, I'll give him the antidote; if he doesn't his scum ass can die in a pool of vomit for all I care.

I'll reveal the name later in the day obviously, but not now
For now I want to see all scum panic thinking I might have poisoned them > : D
Hopefully it makes some townies doing some more stuff as well (if they think I poisoned them), and of course see how scum may react, so I can get a better read on someone.
Like half my slight scum reads got killed last night for some reason so I have no idea wtf is going on now, and I'll probably have to reread everybody in the game again. Hopefully the poison thing is enough to make that easier...

Also Dandel, you better look somewhere else. You misslynch me now and town automatically loses I think.
Not like it matters that much to me anymore though, this game ended with austin's death for all I care, specially with the lack of shit going on in every other department (i.e nothing else is fun either).
Let's see if I can net us some scum with the poison though lol, that'd be nice
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 16 2013 02:27 GMT
#1176
I guess I wouldn't mind dying if my poison target is scum and I let him die.
That doesn't make us automatically lose right? Or does it?

I'm not 100% confident in that read either though so I can't say for certain. You guys better not fucking hammer me in 10 seconds or some shit if he ends up being town.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 17:11 GMT
#1321
I thought missing 24 hours would make this day have interesting stuff in it....but apparently not :/
Was not at home yesterday by the way.

On February 17 2013 23:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Gonzaw, who did you poison?


Yeah I might as well come out with it now:
I poisoned iamperfection

Before the night ended, I had some slight suspicions on him on top of others like Kurumi/kita/etc.
He seemed to just post a lot, which kind of made me ignore him. I reread his filter though, and didn't see much content in what he posted, so I found it odd.
I also found that he was not that active, yet when BH+austin decided to create the wagon against him, he becomes like more active, and switches to Hassy, which in my mind seemed basically only because of that (to survive the lynch).

I thought I might as well poison him and see if he stopped posting "useless one-liners" that only make him appear active and see if he would do anything today.

Right now I'm more willing to not save him, he hasn't done the shit I'd expect town iamp to do, and hasn't done shit basically.
He's not under pressure (like on D1) so I'd expect more activity and involvement from him, which hasn't happened, so I'll keep the poison on him for now.

On February 18 2013 01:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Does anyone else find it strange that the person that gonzaw claims to have poisoned hasn't claimed yet? Either the person that was poisoned doesn't want town to know about it or gonzaw hasn't actually used his ability and is lying to us.


My ability doesn't notify anybody about the poison.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 17:13 GMT
#1323
So the only ones in the chopping block (other than me) are Syl and kita?

I'll read their filters when I find time.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 17:14 GMT
#1324
On February 18 2013 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Huh save him? You're a medic too?


No, I have the antidote for his poison
He's already poisoned and will die in 7 hours or so. However I can give him the antidote and he won't, thus I could "save" him
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 17:27 GMT
#1333
It's not "convenient", it's how my role works. Ask my role creator if you want (I have no idea who he is, although if I find out I'll most likely choke him lol).
Also, it's not "the guy dies right as D2 ends"; it's "the guy dies in 48 hours".
Last night I thought the 48 hours would be up in the middle of N2 or something (because of instant mayority lynch shortening the day), but forgot about Election Mafia >_>

If iamp is red like I'm getting the feeling he is, then killing me wouldn't mark a town loss.
It is 7v4 right now, if you lynch me and scum iamp dies, then it's 6v3, with 2 KP scum can't instantly win (although it'll be LYLO tomorrow)
However a 7v2 scenario would be so much better.

On February 18 2013 02:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
I am not saying iamp is a bad target, he is currently my guess for scum#4. But you basically ask us to lynch somebody else than you, and close our eyes to pray and hope you hit red.
I do not feel willing to do that.


This "plan" of mine didn't really work like I intended it to :/
I kind of wanted everybody to suddenly become very active (in fear I poisoned them), and thus see if iamp becomes more active or not. If he doesn't then it'd basically convince me of him being scum, thus the plan "working". If iamp became more active and involved with town (maybe even seek to be elected or something), then I could be convinced my poison on him is wrong and "save" him.

Right now I'm leaning more red on him, but is not anything certain. If you lynch me though, it's the only chance town gets to not instantly lose, so I hope I didn't fuck it up
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 17:34 GMT
#1340
On February 18 2013 02:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Lets hear your thoughts on syl gonzaw.


I'll need to read his filter, but from a first glance, he lurks but seems to come out at convenient times, like when that stuff with Kurumi happened on D1 I believe, when he parked his vote late D1, and as soon as this D2 started accusing you.
I don't remember him posting other than that.
Seems likely scum at first glance, but like I said I haven't read his filter yet
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 17:36 GMT
#1341
On February 18 2013 02:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:27 gonzaw wrote:
It's not "convenient", it's how my role works. Ask my role creator if you want (I have no idea who he is, although if I find out I'll most likely choke him lol).
Also, it's not "the guy dies right as D2 ends"; it's "the guy dies in 48 hours".
Last night I thought the 48 hours would be up in the middle of N2 or something (because of instant mayority lynch shortening the day), but forgot about Election Mafia >_>

If iamp is red like I'm getting the feeling he is, then killing me wouldn't mark a town loss.
It is 7v4 right now, if you lynch me and scum iamp dies, then it's 6v3, with 2 KP scum can't instantly win (although it'll be LYLO tomorrow)
However a 7v2 scenario would be so much better.

On February 18 2013 02:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
I am not saying iamp is a bad target, he is currently my guess for scum#4. But you basically ask us to lynch somebody else than you, and close our eyes to pray and hope you hit red.
I do not feel willing to do that.


This "plan" of mine didn't really work like I intended it to :/
I kind of wanted everybody to suddenly become very active (in fear I poisoned them), and thus see if iamp becomes more active or not. If he doesn't then it'd basically convince me of him being scum, thus the plan "working". If iamp became more active and involved with town (maybe even seek to be elected or something), then I could be convinced my poison on him is wrong and "save" him.

Right now I'm leaning more red on him, but is not anything certain. If you lynch me though, it's the only chance town gets to not instantly lose, so I hope I didn't fuck it up

To reiterate.

the time of the poisoning, it was regularily at the night deadline or could you choose it freely?


No, the death of poisoning happens after "48 hours have passed". I assume that means "after 48 hours have passed from the Day Post".

In any regular cycle it'd be at the end of the Day cycle, but with the Instant Mayority it could have happened on N2, if the day was shortened with a premature lynch
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 17:38 GMT
#1343
Ehmm....actually I'm not sure, I'll have to check with Grey (if it means "48 hours after Day Post" or "48 hours after I sent my poisoning").
I sent it fairly late in the night I think
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 18:41 GMT
#1367
On February 18 2013 03:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
Gonzo I still need your answer:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:40 Dandel Ion wrote:
Gonzaw I have one further question:
How often does one live?


??
I dunno, that question doesn't make sense
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 19:27 GMT
#1377
On February 18 2013 04:00 iamperfection wrote:
gonzaw did you roleblock me as well?


Nope, my role isn't good enough to have more than 1 ability.

On February 18 2013 04:07 iamperfection wrote:
at least it will be over for me soon

gonzaw you die now your poisoning of me makes no sense
you did not explain why im scum at all
my top town read wants you dead

may you die a horrible death.


1)I didn't poison you initially because I thought you were scum, I poisoned you to put forth my "plan" (or what is left of it)
2)I had reads on the "semi-active" players like you/kita/Kurumi/etc, and I decided to use my poison on one of you. Out of those you were the one I found more suspicious relatively, so I decided to use it on you.

So far as this D2 goes, your play convinces me less and less to give you the antidote. Just look how "active" you were on D1, yet you haven't done anything this D2.

Also, I figured if you were scum you'd OMGUS me.
I figured that you could also try to get to my "good side" trying to get me to give you the antidote, but either way I think scum iamp would react "extremely" to my announcement.

gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 19:34 GMT
#1379
I read kita's and Syl's filters and I'm more inclined to lynch Syl.
He seems to appear and be active only when it's convenient, arguing with Kurumi on early D1, parking his vote on Oats without much justification, and in this D2 just pop up to FoS kita based on the role he made for Kurumi.
He seemed "interested" enough in those parts, but not in the rest, unlike other players that just weren't interested in anything at all (cheesecake/hassy/etc).
He has a very likely chance to flip scum
The kurumi thing with kita is odd, but it's not really alignment-indicative since i've seen countless townies make stupid mistakes with night actions. He does seem active and seems he cares though, I would not want him lynched today at all since it seems he's likely to flip town (and thus lose us the game unless iamp is scum).

I can't be confident at all in lynching someone else. Vivax is acting odd as fuck but he's done that as town before (LIX) so I can't risk LYLO on killing him now.
I guess I wouldn't mind killing Cheesecake though, but again it seems like risking it at LYLO. Nobody else has done enough shit to get a good read on them I guess.

##Vote: Sylencia.

Didn't pay much attention to elections, but Dandel seems the one that cares the most, specially after he said he wouldn't be "trying" so I wouldn't mind him getting elected. These elections don't seem to matter that much though, unless those "plans" are stuff like the poisons from D1.

##Elect: Dandel
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 19:36 GMT
#1384
I would have expected town iamp to actually figure out if I'm scum, and if he thinks I'm not try to act in a way to convince me to give him the antidote. Or even if he thinks I'm scum, try to figure a plan or something for me to give him the antidote.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 19:44 GMT
#1388
On February 18 2013 04:35 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 04:27 gonzaw wrote:
On February 18 2013 04:00 iamperfection wrote:
gonzaw did you roleblock me as well?


Nope, my role isn't good enough to have more than 1 ability.

On February 18 2013 04:07 iamperfection wrote:
at least it will be over for me soon

gonzaw you die now your poisoning of me makes no sense
you did not explain why im scum at all
my top town read wants you dead

may you die a horrible death.


1)I didn't poison you initially because I thought you were scum, I poisoned you to put forth my "plan" (or what is left of it)
2)I had reads on the "semi-active" players like you/kita/Kurumi/etc, and I decided to use my poison on one of you. Out of those you were the one I found more suspicious relatively, so I decided to use it on you.

So far as this D2 goes, your play convinces me less and less to give you the antidote. Just look how "active" you were on D1, yet you haven't done anything this D2.

Also, I figured if you were scum you'd OMGUS me.
I figured that you could also try to get to my "good side" trying to get me to give you the antidote, but either way I think scum iamp would react "extremely" to my announcement.


your an idiot

you poison scum
you didn't explain why im scum at all

what scum traits have i shown in this game??????
am i matching my scum meta(show me examples)

instead you just decided to kill one of the most active players in the game

just die


If I was 100% someone was scum last night I would have poisoned them yes, but I was not.
I had a slight gut feeling on Kei, but not enough to just poison him and die. I thought I'd get a better read of him this D2 to either lynch or leave alone.
Out of the rest, I thought about using the poison to get people to act and get something out of you.
But now that's almost the end of D2 I'm convincing myself you could be scum after all, even if I didn't really believe it when I poisoned initially.

I don't know your meta (other than we playing together in Aperture 2), but from what I've read from austin's posts and stuff you acted like this as scum before.
I don't remember you doing the "post useless one-liners" and stuff in Aperture 2, but apparently you did so in GSL something.

On February 18 2013 04:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 04:36 gonzaw wrote:
I would have expected town iamp to actually figure out if I'm scum, and if he thinks I'm not try to act in a way to convince me to give him the antidote. Or even if he thinks I'm scum, try to figure a plan or something for me to give him the antidote.

how the fuck would be able to convince you to give me the antidote if you are scum.


I don't know dude. I would have expected you acting differently though, or at least try.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 17 2013 19:47 GMT
#1390
On February 18 2013 04:43 iamperfection wrote:

im gonna go with marv, gonzaw, Mr.cc , Kita scum team

i will be back before the lynch

gonzaw if you are town ... i just dont know what to say besides your bad since you killed me a very easily readable player just because you felt like it and your plan was stupid.

i dont understand why guys in this game thought i was scum when i clearly cared about the lynch and was trying to save my town read to lynch useless lurkers. Maybe in some alternate universe that is scummy but i dont know im just very frustrated with this game

on top of a shit role i got a shit town.


You seem to forget I still could still give you the antidote which is what this whole plan of mine was about
Even if we lynch today, since it's instant mayority, if it happens before elections finish I could technically still give you the antidote.
After I saw the day post that seemed like a good choice to "plan" for me as well.

Jesus christ dude. You just act like I vig shot you instantly or something, I don't get it why you accuse me like that out of nowhere.
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