It's more because I'm repeating myself.

In the quote Vivax provided, he said he was happy to vote for gonzaw, and yet he never did. austin could easily have consolidated over to gonzaw and made him sheriff, yet didn't, and let Toad become elected sheriff instead. austin was plenty active Day 1 and it makes no sense that he wouldn't throw his support over to gonzaw at some stage, especially as he'd seemingly given himself this opportunity to do so.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:14 GMT

#3378

On January 29 2013 02:13 Toadesstern wrote:

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he never supported me

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=166#3312

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:15 GMT

#3380

austin could have moved his vote over to gonzaw at any stage... It didn't have to be a last minute thing.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:17 GMT

#3383

Ok, so despite the fact that bugs (confirmed flipped town DT) and I are pretty damn certain austin isn't mafia, you guys want to lynch him. Great.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:18 GMT

#3385

austin *could* be mafia, but I'd lynch a whole bunch of guys above him.

The reasons for annul/stutters/clarity/debears/fuba to be town are much weaker than for austin.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:19 GMT

#3387

I never said I was infallible, but when bugs and I have equally strong feelings about someone, it's usually a sign of something.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:20 GMT

#3389

On January 29 2013 02:20 yamato77 wrote:

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Funny how that list got longer since the last time you posted it.

Riddle me this: if both mafia are among that group, what hope do they have of winning?

Because people like you want to lynch people like austin?

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:22 GMT

#3391

Why are you asking me stupid questions?

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:22 GMT

#3393

On January 29 2013 02:22 yamato77 wrote:

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Why are you defending someone with a weak piece of WIFOM?

why don't you ask bugs the same thing?

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:24 GMT

#3395

I've explained quite clearly why I agree with bugs.

Except you're dismissing the same reasoning we've both used as 'weak wifom'.

There's not a lot I can do about that.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:26 GMT

#3399

I've explained it repeatedly in the last couple of pages.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:27 GMT

#3401

OK, when two strong players reach the same conclusion on the same data, it's weak.

You must be right, I concede the point.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:35 GMT

#3405

On January 29 2013 02:32 yamato77 wrote:

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The only way you're right is if there's another mafia on Gonzaw, because that would give mafia no logical options to get him elected with.

prplhz was on you, wasting his vote intentionally.

Chezinu moved his vote around, ending up on Gonzaw.

Gonzaw was on himself.

Where were the other 2 votes, if mafia was actually invested in getting Gonzaw elected?

Do you really think Mocsta and Axle are mafia?

You understand that not only mafia get to vote right? By austin standing he's leeching town votes as well as mafia votes. Anyone on austin could have voted gonzaw if he'd taken himself out the running. Especially as austin had supported gonzaw.

Sigh. There's a whole bunch of people telling me I might be wrong on this, so I'm going to avoid doing my Oats thing and look again at austin.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:42 GMT

#3408

On January 29 2013 02:37 yamato77 wrote:
You can't reliably say that the town votes on Austin would have gone to Gonzaaw, or vice-versa, if you're the mafia team on day 1.

No, but it's much how the presidential elections in France usually work. There's the right-centre candidate, the socialist type candidate, and the far-right candidate.

Usually in their elections the far-right candidate gets elected in the first round of voting, and their votes go over to the right-centre candidate. I'd anticipate similar would happen here, especially as austin had given hearty support to gonzaw.

Anyway I'll think about it later when I'm not supposed to be working.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:42 GMT

#3409

EBWOP: *the far-right candidate gets *eliminated*

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 17:46 GMT

#3410

Also, if we do somehow have a vigi/joat with a bullet, they should obviously be shooting at austin.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

January 28 2013 18:12 GMT

#3413

Going through austin's filter at work because I'm naughty. I found this:

On January 22 2013 08:08 austinmcc wrote:
Vivax,

Given that you seem to want toad with bodyguards, and toad wants toad with bodyguards, but does not want Chez with bodyguards, why keep your vote on Chez?

Hi probable townie, given you want another townie with bodyguards (toad), why don't you move your vote off mafia and on to this townie?