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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 13:37 GMT
#2795
You do realise, the guy you're wanting to lynch right now, I was the first to call out as mafia, and you attacked me repeatedly for doing so? Right?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 13:41 GMT
#2800
On January 26 2013 22:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 22:36 Vivax wrote:
You say the 5th cause you already know you're the 4th?

he's the 4th most awesome guy in this game. Bugs and me were more awesome, and someone else I can't tell you, right after those 3 games FT.

But on the point: No it's because we know chez and BKE are mafia...


Oh, Toad. No, Toad.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 13:41 GMT
#2801
On January 26 2013 22:39 Vivax wrote:
I'm not thinking about that. I'm thinking why you say 5th when we only know 3 so far.


I'm working under the assumption that Chezinu is mafia. This isn't tricky to work out in the slightest.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 13:43 GMT
#2803
On January 26 2013 22:42 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 22:41 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 26 2013 22:40 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 26 2013 22:36 Vivax wrote:
You say the 5th cause you already know you're the 4th?

he's the 4th most awesome guy in this game. Bugs and me were more awesome, and someone else I can't tell you, right after those 3 games FT.

But on the point: No it's because we know chez and BKE are mafia...


Oh, Toad. No, Toad.

sry dude, you won't get that #3 position on awesomeness-scala with that attitude!
I hope scala is an english word as well because I have no idea what would be the correct word if it's not.


On the presumption BKE flips mafia, I'm already in at #2 ^^
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 13:46 GMT
#2804
Toad is confusing me immensely in mason chat already.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 13:48 GMT
#2807
On January 26 2013 22:46 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 22:43 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 26 2013 22:42 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 26 2013 22:41 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 26 2013 22:40 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 26 2013 22:36 Vivax wrote:
You say the 5th cause you already know you're the 4th?

he's the 4th most awesome guy in this game. Bugs and me were more awesome, and someone else I can't tell you, right after those 3 games FT.

But on the point: No it's because we know chez and BKE are mafia...


Oh, Toad. No, Toad.

sry dude, you won't get that #3 position on awesomeness-scala with that attitude!
I hope scala is an english word as well because I have no idea what would be the correct word if it's not.


On the presumption BKE flips mafia, I'm already in at #2 ^^

I was the guy who wanted to lynch BKE over oats yesterday and bugs as well. You're not getting better than #3 once BKE flips red.


Yeah, you wanted to lynch him because I called him out as mafia and you agreed.

Don't blame me for not being able to get off my amazing Oats tunnel!

Well actually, yeah you can blame me for that one
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 13:49 GMT
#2809
On January 26 2013 22:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 22:41 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 26 2013 22:39 Vivax wrote:
I'm not thinking about that. I'm thinking why you say 5th when we only know 3 so far.


I'm working under the assumption that Chezinu is mafia. This isn't tricky to work out in the slightest.


Sorry If I'm just being annoying but...That makes no sense.

You say
Show nested quote +
"We're going to lynch Chez unless we figure out who the fifth mafia is"
.

That means you would be willing to lynch someone else besides Chez if you figure him out as mafia.


1. prplhz
2. gonzaw
3. BKE
4. Chezinu (annul mad hatter)
5. ???

annul doesn't want to lynch Chezinu because he has a bomb on him. So if we can be certain on 5., we can lynch 3 + 5. Otherwise we lynch 3+4.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 13:54 GMT
#2811
Right now, I'm very unsure on the 5th mafia. Unless I find something convincing, or someone else finds something convincing, my votes will stay on BKE + Chezinu.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 19:06 GMT
#2848
On January 27 2013 02:08 debears wrote:
5touch

Were you contacted by the mason?


Indeed I was. A bit of a turnup for the books. What is your opinion from your conversations? Would it be a good idea for you to publish them?

On January 27 2013 02:54 BroodKingEXE wrote:
This is really unfortunate. Bad luck this week with business. I'm Mad Hatter, I'm like 90% sure I'm not going to be able to make it past the next day, so it would be better if a vig shot me tonight and I put my bomb on someone.


Who is your bomb on currently?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 19:07 GMT
#2849
fuba, there are very good reasons for Axle to be town, which Toad through his masoning has informed me of. This is in addition to me filtering Axle myself yesterday and not finding what I was looking for re: being mafia.

I suggest you look at other people than Axle.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 19:25 GMT
#2851
Alright. I'm not going to say much more about Axle until tomorrow, he might still be mafia depending on how certain things fall (the very good reasons might not be very good reasons ).

I'm being a little bit cryptic, but actually entirely because of this BKE/Chezinu are our best lynches today. There is no lynching #5 today, I don't think.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#2857
On January 27 2013 04:37 Stutters695 wrote:
FT do you believe BKEs claim?


Not really, it reads to me as "please don't lynch me today". He's asking to be vigid (?) even though there is no evidence we have a vigilante whatsoever. But I'd like to know who he claims he has his bomb on, at least.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 19:56 GMT
#2859
On January 27 2013 04:42 Mocsta wrote:

(2) Annul vs Chez
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On January 26 2013 22:19 Mocsta wrote:
As for 2nd vote. I would go annul.
If annul is mad hatter we take out chez who could be scum
if annul is bullshitting than we take out a scum

I thought the whole point of mad hatter was to become a thread influence and risk being shot; thus taking out someone... if Annul play is aimed at being a thread influence, I might as well give up on playing mafia cos I must be the retard..

(This is my assumption on how to play mad hatter, I am happy to be corrected on this)



This is all based on the assumption that people are trying their hardest or playing optimally. Unfortunately this isn't the case (as with almost all mafia games). If we were lynching on the basis of townies basically not even trying to establish themselves as town, we'd have too many people to lynch.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 20:14 GMT
#2864
On January 27 2013 05:13 Chezinu wrote:
Seems both town and mafia think they have won this game.


What makes you think mafia think they've won this game?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 20:17 GMT
#2865
On January 27 2013 05:14 Mocsta wrote:
I need the Grush (town) heuristics dumbed down for a non-vet.

I dont get why him contacting one person and never again as indicative of town play; nor why it rules him out being scum?
Yes, as scum it would be poor play; but why can't that be the intention?

Hes signfiicantly more active in the ongoing Dessert mafia, why is he excused in this game from exhibiting signs of life?


Im trying to improve, so would really like an answer to this please (whether here or in obs qt), as I am definitely missing a piece of the puzzle.


grush probably needs talking to and engaging with tomorrow. That said, I've never seen him lie about Starsenses, and I don't believe he'd sabotage his future towngames to lie about it here. Also he tends to be more trolly or disruptive as mafia (LVI I think?) and he's not here.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 22:08 GMT
#2875
On January 27 2013 07:00 Vivax wrote:
I'm not voting you cause of Annul's bomb and cause it's stupid to assume you could be scum based on what we have seen so far.


Fairly sure you said that to me about BKE repeatedly as well, and now you want to kill him.

Funny how it works, isn't it?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 22:14 GMT
#2878
On January 27 2013 07:12 annul wrote:
to be fair it is possible (albeit HIGHLY improbable) that the mafia double stacked WBG in order to "confirm" BKE's redness


If this is the case, the medic should absolutely claim to stop us lynching a townie. But it's almost certainly not the case.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 22:15 GMT
#2879
On January 27 2013 07:10 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 07:08 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 27 2013 07:00 Vivax wrote:
I'm not voting you cause of Annul's bomb and cause it's stupid to assume you could be scum based on what we have seen so far.


Fairly sure you said that to me about BKE repeatedly as well, and now you want to kill him.

Funny how it works, isn't it?


There has only been 1 kill tonight and BKE has been jailed. No medic claims so far.

Funny how you're asking your usual scummy questions, isn't it, marv?


How are they my usual scummy questions? I called BKE out as mafia, and you repeatedly attacked me for it. Now it appears that he is indeed mafia for sure from the night actions, you want to kill him.

So I'm reminding you you were saying the same things about BKE to me before as you're saying about Chezinu now. It's very simple to understand.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 22:25 GMT
#2881
On January 27 2013 07:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 07:14 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 27 2013 07:12 annul wrote:
to be fair it is possible (albeit HIGHLY improbable) that the mafia double stacked WBG in order to "confirm" BKE's redness


If this is the case, the medic should absolutely claim to stop us lynching a townie. But it's almost certainly not the case.


Quote1:
I speculated about that option earlier as well, but to be honest they would trade a kill of a more useful townie than BKE against the mislynch of a BKE that isn't of use to town, so I think it's unlikely and would be really bad play by scum.

Quote2: Medic should only claim if he saved somebody. Pointless to claim when scum double stacked on Bugs. Even if he claims we won't know BKE's alignment.

With all courtesy: That's a bad suggestion.


Presumably there are two options:

1) the medic saved someone not-bugs, and if they did so, they get a notification for it
2) the medic saved bugs, thus we would know bugs was double stacked

Either way we'd know for sure whether there was 1 or 2 KP, no?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 26 2013 22:37 GMT
#2885
Because I'm working on the basis of my/bugs/Toad's reads, whereas we can mod-confirm people one alignment or another, which is a whole different kettle of fish. And by mod-confirm, I mean either mod-confirm or out a mafia fake-claiming medic ^^
Artanis & marv
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