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On February 03 2013 08:09 Acid~ wrote: Why don't you read corazons filter from a neutral perspective. Do you still not understand why we are voting for him?
I totally do, thats part of why a) this is annoying and b) I checked him night 1.
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Lynch in 2 minutes? Has slayalot voted at all?
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If I'm not mistaken, lynch was supposed to occur 1 hour 25 mins ago?
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On February 03 2013 12:32 GMarshal wrote: I am sad that I did not get more PMs from townies. T.T
all my PM's were blue advice
BTW thanks I didn't want to pm you random thanks cuz I figure your inbox is full enough already
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On February 03 2013 15:29 warbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 15:18 cDgCorazon wrote: I knew that WB was most likely bad town, and I was right.
I'd appreciate it if you'd stop calling me bad. I'm not the one that lynched me for ridiculously bad reasons.
Not trying to hate, but from my perspective you had a few key scummy points that you may wish to remove from your future play. (that, along with some admittedly awful other reasons, made us lynch you).
1) "emotion hooks". I don't really know what to call this, but in your effort to get town talking, there was a lot of personal stuff that clouded intelligent judgement in favour of emotional perceptions. This is the biggest thing that reminded me of Mocsta, and probably the root of the lynch.
2) Initial Town Claim etc. Again, maybe this is unconventional of me but anybody that tries *that hard* to look townie through direct or near-direct claims looks like they are faking it. Town acts town, Scum claims town.
3) dat medic soft claim. I'm aware you know the issue here, but I had to mention it. To be fair to you, I don't think what you did makes any sense from a scum perspective either but it just sat so wrong.
Obviously in hindsight lynching the uncontested medic claim, when we know there isn't a JK (no RB claim) and we also know that the night-kill was blocked, is nothing short of retarded. It did bring a lot of clarity (for me at least).
Other Thoughts:
I still maintain that scum should have killed me Night 2. Zare/Cora as confirmed town is IMO preferable to 3 confirmed town hinging on a "who is more believable" contest between glurio and I, but I could be wrong. I certainly understood what you did and why you did it.
I'd also like to point out that I legitimately tried to change my vote last-second day 2, but I was a hair too late.
Cakepie played town like an instrument and I kinda feel like his "newbie refund" is pretty unecessary IMO. I cant exactly judge, but I'd say he can play in the "big leagues".
@Cora: I really would have voted for you day 2 if I hadn't night checked you. I'm now too lazy to go through the game for examples, and obviously after everything played out it would have been foolish to lynch you (especially day 3), but day 2 I would have voted you if that was the lynch we decided on.
I also mentioned this earlier (I think) but this setup looks ridiculously town favoured, although I'll admit that the medic save working Night 1 is not gonna be that common. And I guess my cop claim was pretty lucky for me (in the end) because scum would have killed me if I hadn't claimed (funnily enough). Either way, most of town played like shit (shoutout to cake who didn't imo) and we still won. It's a shame Slay got modkilled but we basically knew he was scum anyway.
I'm interested in hearing the analysis of others. Obs QT had me laughing out loud at times, although it wasn't nearly as long as last game. I'd say I've learned a lot already, and I expect more knowledge bombs to drop from this game so thanks all
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Hmmm, I think far too logically for this game. If only I thought more psychologically I think I'd do much better (see: cakepie). Ah well 2 games 2 wins without getting myself mislynched is good enough for me.
E: nobody came close to getting what I was trying to say.
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Thanks prom. A large part of my problem is that day 1 last game multiple townies sounded more or less just like this and they turned out to be nooby lurkers, not scum.
On February 05 2013 05:25 Promethelax wrote:this Show nested quote +as a few people have also said. The above "guidelines" from warbaby is a really good idea is pure sheep and while a sheep can be townie this player is trying to look townie. Not be townie. An image is an important thing for scum while it doesn't (usually) occur that a townie tries to protect his townieness early day one.
I'd like to highlight this because people disagreed when I said something along the lines of "Overt town claims are scummy to me because town doesn't care about their image, but scum care a LOT about their image and try very hard to burnish it". Heavily paraphrased, but the same idea.
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What slayalot said
Everything is also pretty clear when you know the flips before reading the posts >_>.
Of course, it certainly is helpful to hear more experienced analysis, but I do think it's important to point out that first-timers get some leeway on the "my post is fluff" scale.
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