EPTDoes converting the gun owner work (the yakuza dies anyways)?
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Does converting the gun owner work (the yakuza dies anyways)? | ||
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On January 07 2013 23:11 Palmar wrote: I have no clue what the order is. and no, the scum literally can't shoot the pgo. assume no lynch day 1, yak yaks the doc night 1, doc protects yak, and yak scumkills the lyncher. now it's yak+doc on scum and fool+shrink+pgo on town. Assume for god knows what reason there is another no lynch. If the doctor delivers a kill on the PGO that night, he will die and the PGO will live. Scum literally cannot kill the PGO. Wait, so does the yak die if he targets the pgo? Cause it sounds like he doesn't, but a converted mafia would? Also, does the yakkity still die if the convert target is shrink'd? | ||
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Fk da police | ||
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I usually see the sender, if I receive a PM. (never played a PM game, sry 4 being bad) | ||
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On January 08 2013 03:41 Palmar wrote: Well that depends on what tactic the doctor takes. He can try to protect whoever he thinks the yak will kill, but he could also try to reach out to the yak and protect the yak in exchange for being turned mafia. That way they can almost guarantee a win together on day 2. This really is every man for himself mafia, the players involved need to think how they can win the game, not how anyone else can win. Great, now you told everybody my sick secret plan in case I roll medic. Nvm tho, I have more sick secret plans. €: On January 08 2013 04:39 Clarity_nl wrote: What happens in case of a stalemate, like say the doctor and yak meet and the nk goes through so it's 4 people left, but the other two people realize that they have so there will never be a majority. Will the host decide on a no-lynch? (since scum can kill themselves on PGO) If yak turns the medic, he can just request protection from his new scumbuddy and shoot at anybody. Worst case, nobody dies. No-lynch or lynch, doesn't matter, just keep shooting until somebody drops. | ||
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So even if the scum was claimed, the jester + lyncher need to not vote him if they want to win. If all 3 blues claim, it's still impossible to lynch, unless the town votes the jester and he self-votes for a win. Either way, town gets nothing. I don't think massclaiming everything is a good idea, but I'm sure claims upon claims will happen eventually, lol €: and not necessarily in thread | ||
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I'm a miller. | ||
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1) No policy lynches There's a Jester in the game. If we establish a policy, he'll just intentionally not follow it. So establishing lynch policies is useless. 2) Don't rush shit Don't vote uselessly. Don't hammer random people. 3) Don't massclaim It helps nobody. 4) No-lynch on day 1. Let the yak clear out the playing field in the night. No point in lynching somebody only to have lyncher/jester win out of nowhere. Sure, a scum lynch on day 1 would be sweet, but let's stay real. | ||
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There's also the small detail that half the players don't actually WANT to lynch scum. So any lynches that get done would have to be supported by scum, the lyncher, or the jester. All possible outcomes are severely undesireable. This is not a regular game. Town does not have the majority. You need to keep that in mind. | ||
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Of course, none of us need to win as town. Every man for himself, after all. But a bit early to talk dirty betrayal, I suppose. | ||
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I'll be the master of course, but we can negotiate you being on top from time to time. | ||
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On January 08 2013 08:34 Toadesstern wrote: I'm here but I'm playing dota Clearly, this is not something a townie would do. | ||
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On January 08 2013 08:37 iamperfection wrote: certainly its not a townie thing to point out that. that is not a townie thing because it is obviouslly null leaning scum on dandel Okay, screw you, I'm not going to partner with you </3 | ||
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On January 08 2013 08:41 Clarity_nl wrote: But you wanted to partner with him meaning you thought he was scum, you being scum makes no sense if you are offended by that comment. Therefore you never meant to partner up to him and this is all a ruse. This means you are third party I AM A GENIUS the logic it's overwhelming | ||
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On January 08 2013 08:41 iamperfection wrote: actually you can send any message you want to me but i will not be contacting anyone i do everything in the open. Come to me if you feel it will help your cause I wanted to partner up in thread. Should be okay with you, if you're all in the open and shit. Why so hesitant, bro. I'm sure you got something for me. | ||
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On January 08 2013 09:05 iamperfection wrote: i dont even know what that means. If we partner up in the thread and turn this into an irc between each other it will be the longest thread ever. You are clearly being anti town Scum read strengthens. what are you even saying? what does have an (un?)holy alliance to do with irc, spamming and the longest (thread)? | ||
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Plus, we're only 6 people, and we have Jiexian, he doesn't even count, cause he doesn't post. Like, at all, not just now. | ||
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Have you read the OP? ^ Most important things. | ||
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(on day 1 that is) | ||
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It's not that hard: Majority is 4, number of townies is 3. 3 people don't WANT to lynch scum on day 1. If he shapes up for a day2 lynch, just convert somebody n1. | ||
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We were both town, IIRC | ||
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Your townier than Toad, that's for sure. Just imagine me mentally making a listpost | ||
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Dreamy. | ||
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##FoS Clarity | ||
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I called him out for lurking when.... Ah, forget it | ||
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Like, it's a meta divergence and should be seen as such. If you don't get the underlying joke, idc. | ||
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Like, I couldn't give less of a fuck about it. After the 15th time, I slowly got it. | ||
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You're one of those annoying bobblers that think if you repeat something often enough, everybody believes you. Or maybe you even like to pretend you somehow get "right" through doing it. Either way, you're like, totally beneath me. | ||
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iamps face is getting tiresome. Appear plz. | ||
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But you don't love me back. It breaks my heart. | ||
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Q.Q Q.Q | ||
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I don't mind though, at least he had the courtesy to pop in and say "I'm not posting" Not everybody did that. | ||
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His argument is shit too, "he doesn't want to lynch so he's the lyncher". I'm just SURE, that with me being the lyncher, I'd TOTALLY not want to lynch people. Makes sense. Since he somehow pretended I wanted to wifom with the first post, how would be 'know' I'm lyncher and not jester? He can't. He just wants to lynch people for the hell of it. Which means he's the lyncher. (ITS EVEN IN THE NAME) ofc that also means I'm probably not his target. That'd be too obvious. On January 08 2013 19:52 Toadesstern wrote: why should we no-lynch? That's not pro-town. And wayne pro-town in general, play pro-wincon. Lynching the Lyncher = 1 player less that can make me lose by accidently lynching another guy. You should want that no matter of alignment as well, shouldn't you? Here's the thing: You talk bullshit. Which means you either didn't think about the setup at all (likely, you play dota), or you think you can convince people to lynch today, even though it's baaaaad strategy. this is also why you can't be scum. I guess dota is more of a third-party-tell after all. | ||
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On January 08 2013 13:27 JieXian wrote: wth dandel how are you still awake aren't you in austria... Magic On January 08 2013 13:30 JieXian wrote: and dandel why are you calling me a lurker when only the 2 of your plus toad are posting lol Cause you are. And you will. Feel free to prove me wrong. On January 08 2013 17:14 Clarity_nl wrote: Hello, I am back, dandel just wants to have a good time yo. Don't understand your FoS though, not even ironically, care to explain it? The point stands. Not much more to say about it. On January 08 2013 18:47 Toadesstern wrote: Oh I went to bed after dota. So let's lynch Dandel. I don't think he's the jester due to this post: which means lynching him is going to help me and everyone else unless he's the target of the lyncher. Obviously we could go try and scumhunt for a mafia d1 lynch but I don't think it's going to happen simply because we've got 3 anti-town forces in a 6 man set-up. If we lynch mafia d1 the lyncher and the jester have lost the game so they'll do whatever it takes to not let that happen. Not to mention that scum is probably going to play really different this game due to the set-up which makes scumhunting almost impossible, so everyone should try and role-hunt for their own sake. We don't want to help other people to win the game after all. #BELIEVE Let's kill Dandel Let's be frank here, the Lyncher basicly wants to not look like a Lyncher and I do think Dandel is trying to not look like a Lyncher/Jester here. Let's get rid of him everyone. If you want to lynch me, vote me like a man. You are not playing like a man. On January 08 2013 19:35 Toadesstern wrote: nah. It is proper play to not look like a lyncher as lyncher so him not looking like a lyncher on the first post (not really a hard one to do...) really is indicative of him being one. I don't think he'd post that carefree as jester. That's the deal. I never even played third party, but it's reassuring to know that you totally know what I would do in that case. Looks very legit, tell me more about my 3p play. I'm curious. On January 08 2013 19:49 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm still trying to wrap my head around what pro-town is this game though. We no-lynch day 1 because we can't lynch scum day 1, but then the only way for town to have a majority day 2 is if scum kills third party and doesn't use his ability, or if he does it has to hit the other third party. If either hits town and they aren't prevented then it will be 2-2 town-antitown. The only person that seems he wants to win as town aligned would be the shrink. The PGO is hoping he gets yakuzad and the doctor has a bigger chance of winning as scum. So I guess my question to you toad is, how does it benefit you to lynch the lyncher? This is incomplete thinking. Not wrong, but incomplete. Blues can win as blue. Scum shoots the PGO = victory Shrink prots correctly = victory The one that superficially WANTS to get turned is the medic, but there's another layer to that. If you're blue (like I'm suspecting) you should think about how you can win and the ways to achieve that. | ||
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I know it's intimating to roll scum, but don't worry about outing yourself, you won't get lynched today. | ||
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On January 08 2013 21:05 Clarity_nl wrote: "I'm afraid of the lyncher, I think dandel is the lyncher, therefore I want to lynch him." Makes no sense. I'm not convinced of toad being anything yet, but even if he were the lyncher I wouldn't want to lynch him. The fact that toad thinks he figured out who the lyncher is and WANTS TO LYNCH HIM FOR IT is absurd Correct. We don't lynch Toad. We don't lynch anything. Toad just salty cuz all the fun happens in the night and the lyncher can't do anything then. | ||
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On January 08 2013 21:06 Dandel Ion wrote: Correct. We don't lynch Toad. We don't lynch anything. Toad just salty cuz all the fun happens in the night and the lyncher can't do anything then. Or jester. Can't be sure | ||
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On January 08 2013 21:09 Clarity_nl wrote: Dandel at your last bit there, I'm not saying town can't win as town, I'm saying they have little influence over a town victory. Shrink can end the game with a properly targeted night kill, PGO can get hit by the scum and although I'm sure there are subtle ways of trying to make this happen, for the sake of discussion I don't see a way for town to PLAY (read: be active in thread and try to figure it out) to a town victory, at least not today. Which is why I advise you to think harder. If you give it up and do nothing today, because you think you can do nothing, then you will accomplish nothing. If you're fine with that, then like, whatever man. | ||
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I don't see a way for town to PLAY (read: be active in thread and try to figure it out) to a town victory, at least not today. Sure does read as giving up. UNLESS YOURE NOT TOWN (dundundun) But k, enough of that. Lest we be stuck on semantics. | ||
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Leaving the options open is expected, but not to be stuck on a single path. It would be smarter to consider all options. | ||
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Even if I found it lacking, I'd have no resonable motivation to correct you. Maybe you're completly right all along, though, and I just wanted to confuse you? Who knows really. (I do) | ||
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Do you wish me to take your hand, or rather I shut up? I can't do 1) in good conscience, but I could be persuaded towards 2) We're not making progress here, and the topic is rather dull to begin with. Important, but dull. | ||
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We're not lynching toad. We're not lynching iamp, and we're not lynching me (derp). I also wouldn't lynch you, Clari-T. Leaves not many options. | ||
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He's also not scum. | ||
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And with "I'd lynch", I mean this hypothetical world where lynching scum is possible. What a beautiful world. Sadly, it's a dream. | ||
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It's not really that magical. We talked to each other for a few pages, if you noticed. To note, my read on him is exactly that, not-scum. | ||
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On January 08 2013 22:33 JieXian wrote: It could very well be nothing but I've got a feeling there's a high possibility that lyncher is among the 2 people who were around when the game just started and he PMed Palmar something cue MK : dang dang dang You just shot up on my lyncher-scale and stole Toad's crown. Why else would you feel the need to point out something that's clearly not indicative of anything, but to distance yourself from being the person by aribtarily narrowing it to a pool of people you "just" happen to not be in. Also the part where people are more likely to think/talk about their own roles, rather than others'. Hi lyncher. Who's your target? | ||
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Big difference. Plus I could be lying to the gullible you. | ||
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Sure. | ||
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Maybe im PGO. Who knows. i wouldn't tell my PGOness to YOU though, if I were it. Remember when I said no massclaims? Yeah, I'm keeping to that course. I'll also not arbitarily out people (on day1 at least), so feel free to ignore me. As you don't matter to me. | ||
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Which is the only reason i didn't vote no-lynch yet. | ||
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that too | ||
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On January 08 2013 23:07 iamperfection wrote: thought you knew his role by elimination? No cuz you don't tell me yours. | ||
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But you don't. So you don't really want to lynch me. You just want to look like you do. Toadie Toad. | ||
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On January 08 2013 23:17 iamperfection wrote: toad so clearly the lyncher trying to lynch obvious townie Toad clearly NOT the lyncher because exactly that. I won't disagree with the obvious townie though. | ||
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On January 08 2013 23:24 JieXian wrote: so dandel why arent you voting the no lynch yet? or anyone who agrees with him for that matter ##vote: nolynch On January 08 2013 23:06 Dandel Ion wrote: I won't be here in the night today (as you know iamp), so I don't want to start the night too early. Which is the only reason i didn't vote no-lynch yet. The only is incorrect, there's also a distinct lack of dieno, as clarity pointed out. | ||
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Looks real legit, dude. Who is the yak then? We could totes lynch him together!!! | ||
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On January 08 2013 23:27 iamperfection wrote: maybe dandel is trying to play super townie to make us think he is not the jester when he really is very confusing Not gonna lie, that was my go-to jester strategy. | ||
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heh good one. | ||
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Weren't you like, pretending to be super-sure I'm the lyncher? | ||
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At least I'm a man. You're just a ball. | ||
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You're not quite there yet. | ||
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He answers though, so feel free to pm him and figure out. | ||
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On January 08 2013 23:49 Clarity_nl wrote: If you two are going to start making out in public, I am leaving. I thought you were gonna come visit me irl?  You can also go to Toad, he loves it when you put your rebel fighter into his ventilation pipe, ifyouknowwhatimean | ||
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On January 09 2013 00:00 JieXian wrote: how would you know his role by elimination? Maybe because i'm inexplicably smart? I don't think you'd understand that concept though, but don't feel bad about it. | ||
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On January 09 2013 00:17 JieXian wrote: dandel you've been acting really funny this game. Kinda like a comedian or a jester even orly | ||
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On January 09 2013 00:10 JieXian wrote: you do know that you weren't in the quote right lol Only because iamp thought I said something Clarity acually said. | ||
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Yeah, you're so smart. How'd you figure that out? | ||
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Any pressing matters (haha good joke) bring up now. Since I'm not worried about missing the night DL anymore, cuz it won't take me more than 24 hours. ##Vote No-lynch | ||
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On January 09 2013 01:04 Toadesstern wrote: Don't listen to the PGO Any role left that I'm not? Didn't think so. Listen to him, he's right. I claim everything. | ||
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On January 09 2013 01:06 JieXian wrote: sorry for being a noob [..] Yeah we gathered, ty for your cooperation. | ||
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On January 09 2013 01:08 iamperfection wrote: dandel vote no lynch so dino 1 contribution will be his hammer vote when he comes in I like, did that already. | ||
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On January 09 2013 01:10 iamperfection wrote: toad just told me he was the jester in pm by accident don't lynch him ever probably. didn't plan on it. | ||
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gl and do the right thing. Should be back ~4 hours before deadline at the latest. | ||
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why is nobody doing anything oh well guess i dont ned to feel guilty about not bein here pz out | ||
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Yeah, reading the OP it seems. iamp was smart enough to figure it out, so you should be too. | ||
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noooooooooo the toad he's toading around | ||
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Seriously | ||
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I have enough secret suppliers even if I needed more. Everybody has an invite by now, since they give them out like candy. + Show Spoiler + LoL is more+ Show Spoiler + fun | ||
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According to you, you bleed red, but of course I can dismiss this possibility since you just lie. | ||
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If he doesn't like me, I'm gonna be a sad panda. | ||
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His PMs he sent everybody were lolcakes. | ||
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He wouldn't need to be concerned if he thought about it. | ||
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So, I'm not really concerned, youre right. | ||
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On January 10 2013 00:04 Toadesstern wrote: yeah, because I'm not mafia, right? :p Even if the mafia part is correct, you won't actually shoot me. You'll threaten everybody with shooting to gauge the reactions. Even if you say you shoot me, the chance that I'm shot is exactly the same as if you didn't threaten me. So the threat doesn't matter and can be dismissed easily. | ||
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Original Message from iamperfection I'm the jester This is how you do it. | ||
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On January 10 2013 00:10 JieXian wrote: iamp I just noticed this wow that's so scummy ... No it's not | ||
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Under a bush | ||
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Sry all those PMs and shit confuse me. | ||
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Now he'll love me. And y'all will never know. | ||
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Poor salty Toad. | ||
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Same shit again Vote: No-lynch | ||
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##Vote: No-Lynch | ||
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On January 10 2013 01:04 iamperfection wrote: Why do I get the sense everyone is lying to me Because everyone is. Duh. | ||
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On January 10 2013 01:09 gonzaw wrote: I'm here guys Why did you have to be late | ||
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On January 10 2013 01:13 Toadesstern wrote: can't be. I'm scum/jester/lyncher according to people. Can't blame people when that's what you've been claiming all the time. | ||
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Ya know? | ||
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ok. | ||
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zzzzZZZZzzzzZZZ | ||
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On January 10 2013 02:45 gonzaw wrote: If any townie wants to win this game plz PM me. If I don't get a PM or active participation from the townie out of Jiexian/Toad/iamp (if, in a remote chance on of them is town), which means one of Clarity/Dandel is scum/jester/lyncher, and we lose the game because of that I'll feel no guilt at all for losing this game and will place the blame entirely on you! Anyways no pressure  You are aware you just openly claimed scum after Toad already outed that you claimed scum to him? Yes? OKay then. | ||
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##Vote: Gonzaw Search your hearts. You know it's the only way. Or one of the onliest ways, at least. | ||
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On January 12 2013 02:20 Toadesstern wrote: ##vote no-lynch BM. ##unvote ##Vote: Toadesstern | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: No-Lynch | ||
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I practically FEEL the tension. | ||
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hm | ||
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On January 13 2013 05:44 iamperfection wrote: Hrmmmm Now what? dunno. didn't expect something to happen. | ||
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On January 13 2013 05:45 Clarity_nl wrote: Now we don't lynch because we can't kill scum. Ain't it swell? what if jie was the lyncher's target and we actually have 3 townies? WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LYNCH!!!! SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN HOLY BALLS | ||
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You can't work together with something like that. | ||
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Shrink and VT bros, looking for PGO to do the good work together. Claim in PM pl0x. Or in thread, also okay. | ||
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gonzo you think lynching iamp is better? I kinda think he's jester tho. but I have been wrong before. | ||
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tell me why clarity's lying, tell me why I'm lying. | ||
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Either jester, or yak strawmanning Toad. If he's yak though, he should stop a jester lynch today, since he won't be able to win off it. Weird play either way. | ||
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The smarter thing as jester would also be to appear like you're NOT trying to get lynched, after all. soooo lynch iamp? agree/agree? | ||
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On January 14 2013 01:14 Toadesstern wrote: disagree you rather get lynched yourself? | ||
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##Vote: iamperfection | ||
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He also knows gonzaw is PGO. let's just lynch iamp | ||
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On January 14 2013 01:18 Toadesstern wrote: I'm so going to yell at you postgame if you really ruin my win like this Dandel i don't care about your win. i care about mine. | ||
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i have no reason to, and you have not given me any. | ||
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On January 14 2013 01:24 Toadesstern wrote: can you do me a favor and unvote Dandel? You're making me nervous No. Give me a reason to. | ||
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On January 14 2013 01:25 Toadesstern wrote: You're losing the game right now. Reason enough? No. No reasons, no explanations, I expect you can do better. | ||
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So why don't you have any better argument than "you lose me the game"? I know that I do, and it's not my concern. | ||
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On January 14 2013 01:27 Toadesstern wrote: Dandel, if you're the shrink tell me your targets n1, n2 and n3 clarity clarity Jie | ||
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On January 14 2013 01:28 Clarity_nl wrote: oh, jie n3, interesting. ya I figured since I told you I'd keep shrinking you, you wouldn't even try  | ||
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On January 14 2013 01:29 Toadesstern wrote: good to know, see you in 48 hours. okay bye. | ||
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Let's end it. | ||
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GO BIG OR GO HOME | ||
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On January 14 2013 01:45 Clarity_nl wrote: Eh.... do it. yolo | ||
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On January 14 2013 01:54 Toadesstern wrote: how likely is it that you no-lynch after I convince you to not lynch iamP? :p not very. | ||
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Sry Jie, I lied to you a lot. To the other people, I lied a bit less. | ||
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On January 14 2013 01:59 Toadesstern wrote: I didn't even lie once except for one very specific thing (that I could yak multiple people)... just out of curiosity, what did you think I was lying about dandel? I thought you were lyncher/jester, switching claims with iamp. So iamp would do all the yak stuff and you claim it. So that we lynch you, instead of him and you both win. | ||
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Apparantly clarity wasn't even turned VT. Also cool. Well, lost the 50/50 coinflip. shit happens. | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:02 gonzaw wrote: Well evey body bullshitted me and i suck in this kind of games (read age of empire mafia) so i kind of saw his coming I was pretty honest to you IIRC. I told you to not convert me (which was my true wish) and didn't claim anything afaik. | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:04 Clarity_nl wrote: Claiming I got turned vt was my best chance at getting gonzaw lynched, I just had to convince dandel that gonzaw was scum but I couldn't. I got him to turn away from toad though, so eh.... This game was so hard for me It honestly didn't matter for you which of toad/iamp we lynch. Dunno why you were so intent on iamp. I originally-originally wanted to lynch toad anyways. | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:06 Toadesstern wrote: wait wait wait. I didn't shoot the lyncher's target. HOLY CRAP CLARITY. WHAT ARE YOU DOING dunno but it's kinda funny haha | ||
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Then we lost | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:08 Clarity_nl wrote: In order to make a lynch happen this cycle I had to claim that I turned town. If I try to lynch gonzaw and convince dandel to join me, then I instantly win if gonzaw was jester, or might still win if the scum believes my claim and hammered the gonzaw lynch. If not then a no-lynch happens eventually. This was the only situation where I got screwed over but I had to take the chance. there was no way i was gonna lynch gonzaw, but i guess you couldn't have known that... meh. Still, funny game, if a bit boring in the middle part | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:12 Toadesstern wrote: because I had this won if everyone would have played accordingly to their wincons given knowledge of roles. So it's just that people didn't know what was going on and lynched randomly... which is frustrating. I played to my wincon. Sadly, shrink wincon is pretty much dependant on winning with town. Makes it hard. Jie played most anti-wincon imo. proteced you converting SOMEBODY ELSE, then STILL protected you shooting the PGO. Like, wat. I also stopped you convert, so I'm actually good. Even tho it was for wrong reasons. | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:15 syllogism wrote: With instant majority lynch you have to unvote immediately in lylo after receiving new, possibly meaningful information, I don't understand why you would just leave your votes lying around like that. You were both here. What new information? | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:17 syllogism wrote: Toad claiming mafia and his night actions? I knew that before. He PM'd them to me. As I said, I thought he worked with iamp as the yak, iamp did the actions, toad claimed them. | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:18 Toadesstern wrote: well he didn't know I can only convert once a game. And I actually didn't know either or I would have converted him n2 instead of clarity... It was like being hit by a truck when Palmar told me I can't Yak anymore The point is: Noone was able to win this with knowledge of what was going on anymore besides me and the jester won because town fucked up royally If you're not even smart enough to read the OP, then don't blame town for your loss :O | ||
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Because I assumed he lied. | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:22 gonzaw wrote: This there was also the chance he was bullsgitting as jester No, the nightactions checked out, so I was really thinking they worked together. And that toad claimed scum in the end to change our minds into lynching him instead. | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:24 JieXian wrote: Ya that makes sense. Did iamp just basically lurk and won or does he talk a lot to some people? yeah pretty much | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:25 Clarity_nl wrote: What was this game like for obs? Probably real boring, lol | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:24 syllogism wrote: I don't understand, you thought it was two mafia working together? Or what? Why would the lynch order matter I don't feel like explaining for the 10th time, sorry. | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:28 syllogism wrote: Fine, but I'll just assume there is no explanation then ... Assume what you want... Yeah I lost, but you don't even understand why. Real classy to come in and call people stupid just cause you can. | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:34 gonzaw wrote: Can we all just blame the loss on jiexian? Sure. And on Clarity. And on myself. And of course also on you and toad. Not on iamp, he won. | ||
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The end was YOLO, but sometimes you just gotta YOLO. | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:40 Clarity_nl wrote: I called gonzaw's "masterplan" townie to get you to disagree with me, then I mentioned it again and expected you to push back harder and maybe get you to think gonzaw is scum but then YOU AGREED WITH ME. Why do people only agree with me when I don't want them to. I had my reasons gonzaw was totes town. btw, I don't think I'll play such a format again, I'd just be tempted to troll people all day, like I did with Jie. | ||
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Toad told me he (in my theory iamp) conv'd you n2 and I shrunk it, so I just kept shrinking you because if it ain't broken, no need to fix it. Could also have done nothing instead. No matter. On January 14 2013 02:45 Toadesstern wrote: I actually thought you're the Shrink who shrinked himself because I'm pretty sure I've got a pm telling me that's possible, unlike the medic. I just can't it. So I really didn't think the shrink would target anyone besides himself. I shrunk Clarity every night | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:47 JieXian wrote: Ya.. after the first few trolls I had you as 3rd Party I ended up trolling too and it gets really boring after sometime because we knew nobody believed each other >_> I had no idea who was the shrink Well the plan WAS not letting anybody know I was the shrink (except i told clarity when i thought he was medic), so I guess that worked out, haha | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:48 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah I actually made a mistake at some point telling you that dandel is the shrink, I immediately told dandel I screwed up and that when you ask he should tell you he fooled me into thinking he's the shrink. That was like the only way to get you both on me n1 <3 why was this even your goal? You'd have had a better chance to win if you got converted. | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote: I don't think there was a way for me to get converted without toad dying. Him getting protected by jiex and converting me was something I did not anticipate, nor could I have. The next best thing is to make sure I look like town and don't die to nightkills, and I accomplished both hm, fair enough | ||
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On January 14 2013 02:57 gonzaw wrote: So what are he chances for town to win this game? Not bad, I'd think. yak dies pretty easily. | ||
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On January 14 2013 03:00 JieXian wrote: If I knew who was the shrink I could have betrayed toad but I had no idea great job dandel =( If you read the OP, you could also have | ||
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Which might actually be a decent strategy too, wait for shrink/medic to suicide on the PGO, lol. | ||
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On January 14 2013 03:39 Toadesstern wrote: I actually pm'ed everyone and was talking a bunch with everyone. Except for Dandel because he was ignoring me. Well yeah, I didn't talk a lot with gonzaw because he was the PGO and there was no reason to talk with him from my point of view. Don't need him to know I'm mafia (should have told him...) if he's the PGO. Well i figured the only people that would lie about being mafia were the jester or the shrink (not possible that's me). Or you were Mafia. Either way, I couldn't win with you, so I just ignored you. | ||
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On January 14 2013 05:07 Toadesstern wrote: except for the part where town and 3rd parties went like "naaaaah, can't win the game anymore but let's at least make sure Toad can't win. That guy is a dick" I am so going to keep on saying that until the end of eternity just to make sure gonzaw and dandel know they ruined this game for me for shitz and giggles... lol i blocked your convert. get fkd | ||
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On January 14 2013 05:16 Palmar wrote: I very much approve of doing stuff for shitz and giggles. Just came home, haven't had a chance to look at the post-game, but feel free to leave thoughts on the setup. It's a pretty complicated game and I'm willing to listen if anyone has ideas on how to improve it. I call Worth It on the ending of this game, if just to make Toad salty. Worth it. | ||
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Well, not more than anybody else at least. | ||
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On January 14 2013 06:42 Clarity_nl wrote: Eh, I would've cast the first vote on iamp if pressured, but not toad. I really did not expect you both to just yolo-vote iamp though. Don't underestimate the YOLO. It is strong with this one. (and apparantly with gonzaw too - yolo brofist, bro) | ||
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On January 14 2013 06:45 gonzaw wrote: Well, iamp and clarity just didn't even communicate with me and Toad told the whole truth apparently (even if I didn't know it at the time) You seemed to intentionally call me the yak (knowing I wasn't) and you half-claimed jester. When you said "Contact the Medic and PGO to see if they care" I was like "lol why is this guy claiming Shrink to me?" which was too obvious since like you accused me of being yak so why would you claim Shrink to me which made me think you made a subtle jester claim to me (and thought I was real yak or something) I just told you i didn't want to be converted :O You just took it as a jester claim. Didn't feel the need to correct you. | ||
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tryhard mode - engaged | ||
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the secret side-game | ||
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Just most. You got the worst of it haha | ||
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