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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 22:22 GMT
#1402
At least FatChunk is giving us something. Even though he's under pressure, he's still coming out with his scum reads, whether they may be good or not. Orange hasn't even voted yet. What do we do if he gets modkilled (or if it looks like he will get modkilled)?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:07 GMT
#1407
I think that both of their play have been very scummy over the entire game. I just think Orange has played more scummier over the game than FC has.

I've been on Orange's case since Day 2. If I switch over now and vote off FC, it will make me look hypocritical since I've been trying to get Orange lynched for awhile. My read is that Orange is more likely to be scum than FC is. If the 1-1 theory had not been proposed (or created, so to say), than I would have gone as far to say as they are both scum.

However, we don't have the numbers to afford to lynch them both. If we did, I would be all for switching onto FC. Our predicament calls for lynching who we are most sure of being scum. To me, it is Orange.

Orange has lurked, sheeped, has contributed 0 to the scumhunt. All this on top of not defending himself.

Orange and FC are both here for those similar reasons. However, FC is more likely to get lynched because there are a lot of holes that have been poked in his argument. It's hard to poke a hole in an argument that is not there.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:09 GMT
#1409
On December 31 2012 08:08 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 07:22 cDgCorazon wrote:
Orange hasn't even voted yet. What do we do if he gets modkilled (or if it looks like he will get modkilled)?


We will get both orange and fatchunk dead with one dayphase, two for the price of one, why not?
Just be ready for a mad switch if need be -- but it will not be because of a modkill on orange.


Well I kind of meant being replaced when I said "modkilled".
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:16 GMT
#1412
On December 31 2012 08:11 Chromatically wrote:
It shouldn't matter what makes you look hypocritical. Townies don't worry about looking scummy. That's a very odd thing for a townie to say.
It seems that you really think that Orange is far more scummy than FC, but your only reason is that Orange hasn't defended himself. We're not voting FC because he has a bad argument, we're voting him because he's scummier and his argument doesn't convince us.
Just the fact that FC voted shz right after Orange should make him scummier than Orange.


Chrom, if you want me to quote all of the posts that I've attacked Orange in, I will do so.

It doesn't really matter now. FC is going to be lynched unless you or Syl changes your mind. The tiebreaker goes to FC being lynched, and I doubt that Orange is going to vote for himself.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:18 GMT
#1413
On December 31 2012 08:16 cDgCorazon wrote:
It doesn't really matter now. FC is going to be lynched unless you or Syl changes your mind. The tiebreaker goes to FC being lynched, and I doubt that Orange is going to vote for himself.


EBWOP: ...you or Syl changes your minds.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:20 GMT
#1415
Well if there's nothing between the two, then something like that should have some gravity in deciding who to lynch and who to keep around.

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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:30 GMT
#1420
So if you feel that way, do you think that the 1-1 theory is true?

And if you do think the 1-1 theory is true, who out of the other 5 not up for lynching today would you suspect the most of being scum?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:30 GMT
#1421
EBWOP: Above post was directed at Chrom.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#1424
On December 31 2012 08:32 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 08:31 cakepie wrote:
On December 31 2012 08:30 cDgCorazon wrote:
So if you feel that way, do you think that the 1-1 theory is true?

And if you do think the 1-1 theory is true, who out of the other 5 not up for lynching today would you suspect the most of being scum?


Is this directed at me?


Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 08:30 cDgCorazon wrote:
EBWOP: Above post was directed at Chrom.


Okay, not for me.


Sorry, I wasn't expecting another post so quickly.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:38 GMT
#1428
On December 31 2012 08:35 Chromatically wrote:
@Corazon
The 1-1 theory is probably true. Orange and FC were roleblocked on consecutive nights, but there was a second roleblock on both nights. This means that neither of them are the scum RB, so someone else must be. This of course assumes no fakeclaims, so it's not foolproof, but I think that it's probable.
If FC flips scum, I'll look at you. If Orange is scum, I'll look at Syl.


I'll wait to contest this until after the flip.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:55 GMT
#1437
Well, I did not want to do this, but I'm claiming town RB.

My goals at night were to find the person who was most likely to be scum, but was either hiding in the shadows away from suspicion, or was good and safely disguised as a townie.

My roleblocks were as follows:

N1: Shz- He had lurked most of Day 1, I thought that maybe I could catch him before he was able to start doing real damage, but my roleblock was ineffective.

N2: Cake. This time, I tried a different approach. Cake was someone who had led the town and was doing a very good job directing discussion. I thought that perhaps he could be a really good mafia in disguise. However, this was ineffective as well.

N3: Syl. I tried to go back to RBing someone under the radar to see if I could catch a scum. This was unsuccessful as well.

Maybe I RBd a scum and they just didn't happen to make the kill that night. I'm not saying I am an effective roleblocker, but I am saying that I'm town RB.

I didn't roleblock FC. I didn't want to call bs on his claim because I did not want to reveal my role, but now that it's out in the open, it might as well be known.

##Vote: FatChunk
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:57 GMT
#1443
Chrom, why did you take so long to claim?

Saying that you are town RB says nothing. I could've done the same thing after your claim.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 31 2012 00:00 GMT
#1446
On December 31 2012 08:58 Sylencia wrote:
Hang on cora, I understand you revealing your role, but why are you suddenly switching votes?


Because if I had switched votes on the bs roleblock claim, then I would've ousted myself. Then, I would be a target for the scum to kill. Why stick my neck out when I didn't know that the rb thing was going to become an issue?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 31 2012 00:06 GMT
#1464
On December 31 2012 09:04 Chromatically wrote:
The flavor for Town RB is Martin Luther. Here's my flavor related crumb:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 10:08 Chromatically wrote:
Theses are the people that need to post more:
-Kickstart
-Orangeremi
-Sylencia
-threesr (during the second half of d1)
-


It's nearly impossible to get a read on you if you're all lurking. One day is excuseable, more than that is not. There were many chances to comment on things during the day that you didn't. I think it's very likely that at least one scum is hardcore lurking and it's working because multiple town are also lurking. Kickstart and Syl have said that they have time problems, I assume that you'll be able to post more going in to d2. Orangeremi I see as particularly suspicious out of this group for being lurky all day for no particular reason.
tl,dr; don't lurk so that we can find the scum.

The first word is not a typo, along with the extra list space. The first sentence has 9 words, the list has 5 spaces. It's a reference to Martin Luther's book "95 Theses".

My RB crumbs are all night posts where I reference a person with two sentences starting with "R" and "B". First night was Omni, then Orange, then FC.
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 04:52 Chromatically wrote:
@OmniEulogy
On December 21 2012 19:48 OmniEulogy wrote:
...

Shz fits into a middle ground for me. I am neutral about him for the time being. I'll need to look through the filter again.

...

Read on shz? By now you should have had enough time to look through his filter.

Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 00:38 Chromatically wrote:
Right now, I think our choices for today (tomorrow) are:
- kickstart
- orangeremi
- fatchunk
- sylencia
By looking at their filters, fatchunk and Orangeremi look the worst.

I agree with things that have been said about Orange, he's been a useless lurker this whole game, hasn't taken any difficult positions.
FatChunk said that he'll be more useful d2, but hasn't done anything. He also jumped onto Omni right when his death was looking certain, specifically citing his reasoning as "giving the most information".

I'm inclined to go for Orange tomorrow.

This one, Orange's name was the only one I capitalized in the first part, to emphasize his significance.
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 13:30 Chromatically wrote:
@FatChunk
On December 28 2012 08:58 FatChunk wrote:
okay well I think that either of the two people are scum: sHz and kickstart, and to be honest the last post of shz on the 27th was really scummy to me. I hope we're right.

##unvote
##Vote: sHz

On December 27 2012 14:30 shz wrote:
Ome thing to note though, which seems very odd to me.

If we misslynch today, we pretty much fucked, so it should be in scums interest to direct us towards a misslynch, to nearly lock that game down. But there seems to be no oposition towards lynching Kick. Could this mean that mafia is fine with that lynch? Which would mean we are wrong.

Really? This was shz's last post on the 27th by forum time.
By what reasoning did you somehow decide that this post, made a while ago, somehow suddenly made shz scummier that Kickstart?



That doesn't make you town. Anyone can do that sort of thing. Flavor does not make you any more or less town.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 31 2012 00:08 GMT
#1468
On December 31 2012 09:05 Chromatically wrote:
It doesn't matter, we win. I can block Corazon tonight and then he won't be able to nk.


It doesn't matter, we win. I can block Chrom tonight and then he won't be able to nk.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 31 2012 00:09 GMT
#1471
On December 31 2012 09:07 Chromatically wrote:
You think that I, as mafia, prepared several crumbs on the off chance that I would be forced to fakeclaim RB later?


I think you would. It would be quite a convenient thing to do, just to prove that your town.

Seriously, flavor should not get you off the hook. Who have you roleblocked and why?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 31 2012 00:11 GMT
#1473
On December 31 2012 09:09 Chromatically wrote:
Come on, you hard defended FC and then switched onto him when you would be lynched. If you knew that FC's claim was fake, you would not have hard defended him all day.


I did not defend FC. I said Orange was a better lynch. Just like the reason I voted kick off.

Face it Chrom, you're trying to make yourself look town and make me look scum by a bunch of silly flavor and silly reasoning. Unlike you, I haven't pushed for the lynching of three townies (only 1).
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 31 2012 00:17 GMT
#1477
Why would you?

Anyways, I've talked to Dandel, and I've decided to surrender. I am the last scum and roleblocker.

I'd like to say a few things however:

1- Cake, Mocsta, Spag, Aqua, Chrom (kind of). You guys are great thinkers and reasoners. I was going to kill Cake off tonight, but that doesn't matter as much. I'd be proud to play with you all again.

2-Syl, Shz, OE- I didn't get to see much from you guys, but I hope we can play again sometime =).

3-To the rest of you: Please try harder next time.

Anyways, Freudian slips suck, it's hard to play as the only scum trying, and GG.

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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 31 2012 00:18 GMT
#1479
And:

<3 Spag for defending me
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 31 2012 00:20 GMT
#1482
Well we would've had a better chance if the other two scum would've actually tried. There were points were I got really frustrated at them cause they just lurked forever and didn't do anything. I think that if we had a scum team that was half good, we could've won the game, because you guys had a lot of mislynches and bad arguments.

If cake had not drawn up that post with the possible RBers, I wouldn't have claimed.
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