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On December 24 2012 01:35 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 01:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 24 2012 01:25 Djodref wrote:On December 24 2012 01:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Scum bussing that hard also makes sense: He'll get all the votes and win powers. Be able to fakeclaim using powers and prevent town from checking/vetting up.
I'm also sharing some concerns about Hapa, because I know your scum meta, and I really don't fell like you are scum this game, so I'm really curious how Hapa can have you as scum right now. What do you think about JieXian right now ? I mean, given that Eywa has flipped town. I was convinced that one of Eywa/jx was scum (I didn't think that much stupid could exist in one thread, no offense JX :p). No, you don't know my scum meta. I guarentee you I wouldn't play even remotely the same as i did against you that game. Sorry about that lynch btw. Debears told me to do it. I hate meta cases anyway. JX could very well be Hapa's scumbuddy. But that could also be Kush, Ghost, hell even you haha. But overall I'd consider him to be fairly townie per that play last night The thing is you have played only one scum game so far until this game. I don't see your scum game improving that much since that last game. Also, you being pissed off at Eywa looked very genuine. I can definitively understand your feelings wrt him and also you spend a lot of time fighting with him with passion, and I don't see a scum player doing that, because he would have known that Eywa was town, so I imagine less confrontational.
I guess so. How could Eywa not piss you off? Combined with everything else going on my patience was worn so thin.
I honestly can't wait until I get scum again, I'm going to bus the crap out of my buddy and become so townie I can lynch anyone I want.
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Also, the only other thing that could be besides us is Kush + JX (provided hapa is actually town). This doesn't hold much water, right? Kush did want to lynch JX a bunch of times, ya?
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On December 24 2012 01:44 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 01:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Also, the only other thing that could be besides us is Kush + JX (provided hapa is actually town). This doesn't hold much water, right? Kush did want to lynch JX a bunch of times, ya? I only remember Kush wanting to lynch me, I'll have to check this.
Well if we're right about Hapa / Ghost, Kush or JX will die tonight. Djo, who did you vote for?
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Wow wtf you actually voted for me? Ain't neva seen no powers in this game haha.
D1 was kush dp hapa
D2 was you hapa.
D3 I'll post when i get home. There is no chance you or I is dying tonight.
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Still can't believe Hapa is scum this game. Well played sir, even if town loses. Really well played. I think his main mistake was fake checking Ghost. When he first said green check ghost, I said wtf. I was expecting him to check djo or eywa, those would make sense as town.
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On December 24 2012 08:32 Hapahauli wrote:
No wait this is solvable. Solution incoming.
If we no-lynch, we can solve this game.
How?
Yo Djo, is Kush / JX possible? Anyone?
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It wasn't serious. I didn't think he'd flip town, I was just trying to entertain him while he flammed about.
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It was hypothetical. Did I really think Eywa would flip town? No. Why would I put myself in this scenario -- makes no sense. I told the thread to lynch me and djo if eywa was town --- because I honestly didn't think he could be green. As scum I woulda pushed the Eywa lynch but not hard defended Djo at all. Hard buddying as scum just makes me look terrible. I woulda been like "Okay, Eywa scum, really want to lynch him over djo, but djo has great chances to flip scum as well"
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On December 24 2012 09:23 Hapahauli wrote:Moar: Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 06:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 23 2012 06:57 Eywa- wrote:On December 23 2012 06:56 Eywa- wrote:On December 23 2012 06:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 23 2012 06:55 Eywa- wrote:On December 23 2012 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If you flip town Eywa, I'll lynch Hapa tomorrow. Doubtful, but you can talk the talk all you want. Notice, Cheesecake making 2 separate promises about who's getting lynched tomorrow if I'm town? Hey I'll lynch Djo or Hapa if you're town. Hey, that means... I'll lynch Djo tomorrow if you're town. Not to mention, you haven't made a decision on your own still... Though, don't you think it's odd that hapahauli is cowering behind you today? You're actually making sense right now. Should have started to do that from D1. Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 07:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 23 2012 06:59 Eywa- wrote:On December 23 2012 06:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 23 2012 06:57 Eywa- wrote:On December 23 2012 06:56 Eywa- wrote:On December 23 2012 06:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 23 2012 06:55 Eywa- wrote:On December 23 2012 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
You have tons of quotes preparing for Eywa to flip town.
If you flip town Eywa, I'll lynch Hapa tomorrow. Doubtful, but you can talk the talk all you want. Notice, Cheesecake making 2 separate promises about who's getting lynched tomorrow if I'm town? Hey I'll lynch Djo or Hapa if you're town. Hey, that means... I'll lynch Djo tomorrow if you're town. Not to mention, you haven't made a decision on your own still... Though, don't you think it's odd that hapahauli is cowering behind you today? You're actually making sense right now. Should have started to do that from D1. And you should continue the lynch of a townie. I won't even feel bad if you're town.
Because that quote he said made sense.
And I don't feel bad after his lynch. He deserved it if he was scum or town. But I was sure he was scum.
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because it's either yu + ghost or kush / JX. Don't think JX kush is that likely tho. Just because you've acted all townie and such -- which is why I buddied with you, because I typically buddy my top town read -- and pushed a scum lynch doesn't mean you're not scum. Hapa being hapa, totally possible for you to have organized that bus.
Either way im not going to convince you either way.
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Also: Why did you "check" Ghost? Why not Eywa? Djo? These would make more sense considering they were your scumreads.
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Meta cases typically make no sense. But hell, maybe you should look at a JX + Kush alliance. You claimed to have jailkeeped Kush, right? He could have been the mafia shooter. I know I'm town. and you're so confirmation biased against me right now.
I'm trying to rationalize you / ghost versus kush/jx. But ghost literally just sheeps you hardcore so I dunno what to say.
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On December 24 2012 09:30 Hapahauli wrote:
And btw, it's your job to convince me right now that you're not scum. Because your pre-lynch behavior was inexcusable from a town perspective. As is your read.
Kush claimed my pre-lynch behavior was making me look very townie?
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On December 24 2012 09:31 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 09:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Also: Why did you "check" Ghost? Why not Eywa? Djo? These would make more sense considering they were your scumreads. Drazak was my scumread at that point in the game. Djo was not. Why are you lying?
Why? He was a lurker being replaced. I don't understand why you'd check him over someone who was as scummy as Eywa.
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My scumread on you is inexusable from a town perspective? JX thinks you're scummy too.
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On December 24 2012 09:34 Hapahauli wrote:
That's a deflection if I ever saw one. Why would a JX + Kush alliance make sense? Tell me, and then I'll post why you're wrong.
It doesn't make much sense at all. That's why im trying to rationalize it, which i was doing most of D3 with everyone else. I dismissed kush/jx because it didn't make sense. Kush pushed a JX lynch, I don't see his motiv for doing that when he could have just bussed DYH hardcore. I still think its a very very slight possibility, but you and ghost seem to be the scumteam if I discount kush/jx
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On December 24 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 09:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 24 2012 09:34 Hapahauli wrote:
That's a deflection if I ever saw one. Why would a JX + Kush alliance make sense? Tell me, and then I'll post why you're wrong. It doesn't make much sense at all. That's why im trying to rationalize it, which i was doing most of D3 with everyone else. I dismissed kush/jx because it didn't make sense. Kush pushed a JX lynch, I don't see his motiv for doing that when he could have just bussed DYH hardcore. I still think its a very very slight possibility, but you and ghost seem to be the scumteam if I discount kush/jx So if I can prove that I'm town with ghost (which I can after the witchcraft elections tonight 100% guaranteed AT MINIMUM), who would be your scumteam?
How can you "prove" it?
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I actually like that idea Hapa. Everybody vote for nobody. Hapa, vote for Kush or JX or someone you think is town.
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On December 24 2012 09:45 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2012 09:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
My scumread on you is inexusable from a town perspective? JX thinks you're scummy too. JX was atleast consistent. Crazy, but consistent all game with it. You went from "hapa's my buddy 100% town" to "why you so good at scum?"
Because my scumteam predictions were predicated on you not being scum. When Eywa flipped green, it all fell apart.
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