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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 18:41 GMT
#401
Yamato - You seem to think that the vote is a town-favored play. Oats could easily be scum. I just pointed out that these aren't generally scumtells. I want to point Oats, if town, in the right direction. If he can make a case against Kick that isn't reliant on his opinion of lurker lynching / that the FoS was bad, that would be fine with me.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Arnarnion
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada39 Posts
December 04 2012 18:42 GMT
#402
God damn, I feel like a broken record, but jidol, what is your stance? Do you have any reads on Kick or Oats? You haven't said much this game and it would nice to hear what you think before you leave.
The Omega Spider of Hip-Hop
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 04 2012 18:43 GMT
#403
On December 05 2012 03:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm just pointing out that those aren't generally scum traits....


On December 05 2012 02:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The first two points aren't "scummy" as he claims, the last point kind of is but it could go either way.


If it "kind of is" a scummy trait then why not leave Oats alone and let kick respond to the post to see which way it DOES go?
Writer@WriterYamato
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 18:50 GMT
#404
I don't have much of an opinion on Kick until he can come back and discuss with us some more.

You're just digging for stuff that isn't there, Yamato, and you're facerolling over me for pointing out the fallacy in an argument. Town can do that, scum can do that too. Either way, it's my opinion, and Kick has (should) respond to it ANYWAY. Attacking me for pointing it out is useless. Can we stop crapping up the thread with this discussion?

I am pretty suspect of Oats because of that read flip in such a short period of time... Town don't change their reads that quickly or mess stuff like that up. Scum have to feign reads and can screw that up very easily.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
December 04 2012 18:52 GMT
#405
My read on Kick is he's just being a village fool (jkjk) townie
Kickstart had valid reasons for being suspicious at Yamato and I agree with most of his points.
Not sure about Oats though
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 19:54:40
December 04 2012 19:29 GMT
#406
Votecount:

AxleGreaser (0):yamato77

Kickstart (1): Oatsmaster

Not voting: (8) Arnarnion, AxleGreaser, Kickstart, jidolboy, Mr. Cheesecake, Sylencia, Rad, yamato77

You got a while til lynch, don't you worry aboot it
Also, if you cats notice anything out of place in the vote counts hit a brother up so I can make it right. Thanks.

Also: shout out to prpplz for the vote count machine. Dude is a boss.

Edit: reformatted for ease of reading.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 04 2012 19:37 GMT
#407
The play doesn't make sense to me, but whatever. You'll just WIFOM me to death anyway.
Writer@WriterYamato
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 19:37 GMT
#408
Are you kids for real. I have a HUGE post on why exactly I was suspicious and why yamato got the FoS, but every one of you saying that my play is odd decided to completely ignore it. Yes when I posted the FoS and all that I didn't expand on why immediately but I gathered my thoughts and provided the most comprehensive post on my thoughts I could.

FoS = finger of suspicion, meaning I was throwing out there that I found what yamato was doing to be suspicious, which I think I explained adequately.

Oats has completely twisted my view on lurker lynch and what I said, I said that I will lynch scum reads over lurkers unless I have no solid reads. Don't know how he is able to twist what I say to suit his meaning as I thought I was very clear in what I thought about policy talk.

If you are going to make a case against me for FoSing yamato, then you better start addressing the actual points I made (check the huge post I made about yamato and rad), otherwise I am going to ignore you.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 19:44 GMT
#409
Yeah reading Oats "case" on me is just infuriating, none of it is true at all. First he says I said I was fine with lynching lurkers, which I spent the whole beginning of the game arguing with every fucking person about saying I will lynch scum reads over lurkers, yet he claims I am being wishy-washy about it - right. They he says my "vote" is bad when all I did is throw out a FoS, and adequately explain it, and then I get shit for asking peoples opinions on what I have said? Yeah ok, because you haven't asked a million stupid questions about things but when I ask if anyone else felt the same about my read then I am suspicious.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 04 2012 19:44 GMT
#410
The single point (not points, mind you) you made, that others have repeated, is that I was too aggressive in pursuing my read on Axle. Is that really a scum trait, kick?
Writer@WriterYamato
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 19:47 GMT
#411
I explained this thoroughly but for those that can't bother reading what I said a few pages ago:

Yes it can be. I explained how wanting to pressure him is not a scum trait but I expanded pretty heavily on how you went about it compared to how others did.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 04 2012 19:53 GMT
#412
So different is bad now or something? You never really explained why a scum would want to make people answer their questions. You never explained why scum would be aggressive in their pursuit of a player in order to determine whether he was newbie town or not. All you did was say, "That looks suspicious".

I'm not impressed.
Writer@WriterYamato
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 19:53 GMT
#413
Yeah I just have to stop reading what Oats said, it is too much bullshit. Before that stupid case he said I spent the entire early game talking about policy voting - this kid clearly did not read the thread and see what I had to say about it because at the time everyone was fucking crying their heads off that I said I am lynching scum reads over lurkers.

Oats can you try and be less stupid and more productive than you were last game? So far you are doing a shit job if that is your goal.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 19:56 GMT
#414
Don't be impressed, I didn't make a post saying I was suspicious of you to impress you.

The pressuring has nothing to do with it at all. It is how you did it. I posted how I responded to Axl (which was in line with everyone else at the time) and I said some words of encouragement but told him that he needs to answer questions and post his thoughts and the reasoning behind them, you on the other hand pressure him by saying "OMG HE IS IGNORING ME" and then throwing a vote his way - if people can't see the point I am making there then there is not much I can do to expand on this.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 04 2012 19:57 GMT
#415
On December 05 2012 04:56 Kickstart wrote:
Don't be impressed, I didn't make a post saying I was suspicious of you to impress you.

The pressuring has nothing to do with it at all. It is how you did it. I posted how I responded to Axl (which was in line with everyone else at the time) and I said some words of encouragement but told him that he needs to answer questions and post his thoughts and the reasoning behind them, you on the other hand pressure him by saying "OMG HE IS IGNORING ME" and then throwing a vote his way - if people can't see the point I am making there then there is not much I can do to expand on this.

Why would I just let a player ignore me?'

Again, different is not bad.
Writer@WriterYamato
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 20:01 GMT
#416
O god and then Arn jumps on that retarded post by Oats. Go look at that post I made, and scroll down the page, because the huge post where I explain myself is ON THE SAME FUCKING PAGE.

Seriously if this is how discussion is going to go I am not interested. I post a serious post spelling out my every thought and why and then people just clutter up the thread with complete shit and make cases on me by ignoring the largest and most comprehensive post in the thread.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 20:01 GMT
#417
No different is not bad, now move the fuck on. I said that I think a town player would look at Axl and react one way, and that you did not react that way but you reacted how I thought scum would want to. Get over it and move on.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 20:03 GMT
#418
Why don't you do something more than talk about policy for hours, say the same thing to defend yourself for hours, and badger noobies? How about you post some reads?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 04 2012 20:03 GMT
#419
On December 05 2012 05:01 Kickstart wrote:
No different is not bad, now move the fuck on. I said that I think a town player would look at Axl and react one way, and that you did not react that way but you reacted how I thought scum would want to. Get over it and move on.

You fail to explain why scum would want to be aggressive in that situation.

I'm not going to get over it. Why are you so mad right now?
Writer@WriterYamato
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 20:03 GMT
#420
Because the majority of people that are active in this thread are retarded.
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