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AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 11 2012 09:43 GMT
#1238
@Sylencia if you are there I have a couple of quick questions I would like to Ask you.

Also @Arnarnion if you could tell me when you would next be around that would be helpful.

Also if anyone wont be here near lynch tomorrow could you tell me it may be important.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 11 2012 09:56 GMT
#1240
On December 11 2012 18:51 yamato77 wrote:
How about you participate in the game the rest of us are having instead of existing in your own bubble?


Thank you for your advice but my filter is quite long enough. I have needed to think.
I now hve profitable plan to be st use my time between now and tomorrows lynch.

As I asked will you be here near the end I think my last questions would be to you?


BTW I will now have read of what was achieved while i was thinking and sleeping.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 11 2012 10:13 GMT
#1242
Actually @Sylencia Sorry I am happy with that answer instead.

@Rad If you are around I would like to talk to you. If you turn up and I am not here please say when you will be around.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 11 2012 10:45 GMT
#1243
EBWOP thats not RAD. And sorry I am effectively AFK for 20 mins or so.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 11 2012 10:45 GMT
#1244
Arn are you there and when will you be there?
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 11 2012 12:22 GMT
#1247
I have going through the thread a bit now we have some confirmed towns, and Oats and seeing what they said to who and who they voted for. if your here I could ask you the questions I had prepared. Also when tomorrow do you will think you will be here or around?
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 01:12 GMT
#1273
Well damn thats inconvenient I have been sleeping. Sorry I am human I finally broke. Oh look apity party and i shouldnt do that? Well i could lie... nah Ill just tell it like it is and see what happens.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#1276


Yam has already made a case on Arnarnion here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17201753
it is based on feels of the game I dont have. So I cant comment or just sheep
that unless I find my own evidence.

If you have the experience to know thats a valid argument then give it
whatever weight it is due.

I deal in rougher measures. part of the The itchyness that made me move my vote of Rad without counting
properly what that meant, was partly mistakenly becoming more convinced Yamato was scum and partly
feeling something was wrong.

Oats had been a noiser player thus I would have expected it most likely for the other scum to hide in
the other big puddle. The quiet people.

Although both Arnarnion and Silencia are quiet, jidolboy is too but he has claimed.

As you are all good, players if one of you was actually a named townie, or a blue role
you would have counter claimed we throw you both under buses, yay team.
As I am a careful player, I too have checked what I am several times, and I have no
evidence I am not just what I appear to be, a town player. I may once have said playa
before I realised just how hard language is read around here. Stuff happens,rocks fall.


So lets assume for now jidolboy Cant be Scum or someone Would have counter claimed.??


An association case. Arnarnion and Oats.

In my minimal knowledge a pair of Scum players have strong tendency to be in different
pools of suspsects. One will be noisier, active and take risks hoping to get enough time
to let the thrid one make it thorugh to a 3 man LyLo
They will also want to pick off the two blue roles.

Thus with Oats as one scum I would expect the other to be one of,

Sylencia, Arnarnion, jidolboy(Confiremd Town)


The question is which?



Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 01:15 GMT
#1277
Quite early in the thread

Oats was asked question sevral times
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17124632
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17124724

Arnion came in between them, when the silence was getting loud.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17124708

That could be chance.. So we well I did until i drifted off.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 01:16 GMT
#1279
=========
Here Arnarnion, asks about a question Oats asked and was answered.
I dont find the question, anywhere.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17130177

Arnion then asks for a list of scum reads from Oats.

I was going to go through and look for how often which people gave lists but I got too tired to do that kind of work
I was meant to get up hours ago.



Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 01:18 GMT
#1280
Here is another feeling thing. When i reread all of Arns posts, they all start in the same soft pedaling way.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 01:21 GMT
#1281
EBWOP.

The opening phrases of alarge sample of arns posts all in one place

Arnarnion's filter is short it does not take long to see

"Alright"
"Yam and Rad. You guys make good points,"
"That is fair Kick, but we still haven't heard a thing from Sylencia yet"
"CC, hard to say, but based off of what I saw"
"Oats I have a question for you, isn't Kick's behavior right now"
"Then what about Yam pursuing a line of questions on Axle is scummy?"
"Also Oats, I would be inclined to agree, since his jump on you last game"
"Sorry if I'm off base right now man, but I'm looking at Kick, his wishy washy
approach on Yam Man has me pretty uneasy. "
"CC I think the scum agenda comes not just from his initial FoS, but his behavior afterwards."
which is to {<<<< dunno even why I wrote that. Apparently i thought it was important so I leave it }
"CC, do YOU have any reads on Kick?"
"God damn, I feel like a broken record, but jidol, what is your stance?
Do you have any reads on Kick or Oats?"

What is the intent of bringing the case? WHen I do it is to get the target to respond
"cc I was kinda vocal for awhile now that I've thought Kick has been suspect, and I would also
appreciate if you would address the problems in the case as you see it, instead of just dismissing it."

Wel the fighting didnt go dont as desired. (Push me pull you on Kick)
"As you can see as of right now I'm not voting for anyone. While I am less convinced than I was that
Kick is scum, I'm also not ready to say that that makes Oats scum. The fight that broke out between
them seems more of a town on town altercation to me."
tries to divert to a lurker lynch
"....So I'm going to #---- #Vote: Sylencia"

##Vote @Arnarnion
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 01:22 GMT
#1282
EBWOP FUCK Clock in bedroom is diff Sorry Boss. yeah I am done
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 01:26 GMT
#1284
Now for the Bus.

Today you are going to Vote for either I or Arnion or you make up your own minds on a third.
Tomorrow another two will be chosen between and then you win or lose.
I have a third .

I really feel that shooting Kick could have made me focus on Yam and Rad. The were two lynches
providing I dont get lynched there is enough time. But why wont I get Lynched, merely becuasse
I know I am town is not enough other people must know that too. But if I didnt consider that
that would be a good sucker bait story. I was wrong there were 3 lynches I just cant count.
Intuition caused me to swap votes without even counting properly. Now theres a derp...
With me its not turtles but derp moments all the way down.

What on earth do we do with two Lynches, What do I do, I have to find the one, or do I?
What if I could target one, create a real argument that I ought get lynched first as that
might well provide more information, then the rest could choose with more wisdom tomorrow!!

Hey look Right solution wrong problem? maybe. Actually perhaps I was mant to get here by lynching
the wrong person yesterday... weee splat on face again. Good thing I dont mind. This is how I learn.

Never mind whats that itchy feeling I have in the back of my head. Its Arnarnion.
Am I suffering conformation bias becuase I am not allowed to suspect Arnarnion becuase of out of
game stuff? The roles will have been chosen randomly, except I am still alittle uneasy about the
host. I must I have been told trust my feel reads more.
What if there is something i dont know about myself that I will only find out if I go under a bus.
hey that could have worked with 3 lynches if I had got here yesterday.
Oh well lets make it work with two. I just have to go under the bus first!
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 01:26 GMT
#1285
and I didnt.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 01:28 GMT
#1287
Dont do anything please......... just for alittle more.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 01:55 GMT
#1288
No I didnt read it at all , as i said meant to have several hours where I posted that but not the self under the bus argument first

if the arnion vote seemed to hold water than i was going to argue that if Arn didnt turn up
red then, I was tomorrows best lynch without question.
if it was indeed without question then I ought get lynched today. Why?

Well if lynching me today turns up more infortion it could have led to a better informed lynch tomorrow.
weird logic but I think its correct that that would have been better.


Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 02:29 GMT
#1289
My biggest problem is I have pro town read on everyone that is left.
Id like the rest of you to consider only yourselves as you have known one another longest.
Does your play within, just this game, seem like it is pro town play.

Your play styles to me appear to run in pairs, I could identify the pairs, but that leaves me
without a pair, that is of course unless it is the host.

There were times when i was put under a microscope, I reacted badly to that
Indeed I got to believing they were the problem.
I then realized (not when I changed my vote (that was luck) but shortly after)
The people doing that are thus pro town.
I have also have pro town read on Sylencia.
jidolboy has a claimed role and there are no counter claims.

and then there is me...
as in my first post and explained here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17135766

I do indeed check every bodies motives. Even my own.

This is a thing.

Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

That means i must play to win. When playing this game you cant choose a style of play that is optimal for whatever
team you are on that round, you must choose style of play that works in the long run for which ever one you play
this time.

Now if the host is the matching pair to me and it is lying to me, then you have problem.

So if this was a few hours ago I would have suggested lynch me first that is for me playing to win.
Even now I cant say I am more suspicious of any player in the game than the host.

Oh and BTW me pointing me like that, doesn't make me a less useful lynch target at all.

Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 02:32 GMT
#1290
No I hadn't even read the flavor until now my first feel read on that is.

##FOS The host

As such I am going to reread some rules.... and see just how far they could be stretched by
a host with an evil sense of humor.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 12 2012 02:38 GMT
#1292
On December 12 2012 10:06 Sylencia wrote:
Yep, pretty sure yamato is the last scum we are looking for.


Unfortunately he is my top town read.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
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