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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 26 2012 14:42 GMT
#3668
What I've revealed in-thread makes perfect sense and I've reasons beyond what I've revealed. I will reveal those reasons when doing so is more beneficial than keeping the reasons secret.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 05:56 GMT
#4022
Prom any idea why you took only 25 damage when I tried to hit you for 75?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 06:01 GMT
#4024
Why is everyone so focused on Prom's second claim, when his first claim explains quite clearly how he knew Marvel visited me?

Did anyone besides Prom get roleblocked today?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 06:10 GMT
#4031
Okay, fine. I've an ability that roleblocks+tracks at the same time. Prom initially claimed tracking sandro to me even though sandro was roleblocked. Marvel was roleblocked n1 and Prom definitely knew that he targeted me. The much more likely explanation for him knowing is that he simply has the same ability I do.

If you are more willing to instead believe that his other claimed abiltiy, which roleblocks everyone who attempts to target his target and in addition makes some kind of damage shield, I guess there's that. His actions and justifications for them make no sense whatsoever for town.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 06:17 GMT
#4034
He said he 'knew which way Sand was pointing when he was Rb'd'. His claim has evolved multiple times since then. Why would you even assume on n1 that the only roleblocked people just happened to visit me?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 06:25 GMT
#4037
On November 27 2012 15:23 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 15:17 syllogism wrote:
He said he 'knew which way Sand was pointing when he was Rb'd'. His claim has evolved multiple times since then. Why would you even assume on n1 that the only roleblocked people just happened to visit me?

Put yourself in his shoes. You have an ability that roleblocks anyone who targets your target, and you use it night one on a generally accepted strong town player who just won a mayoral election. Then the next day, two people, also known as strong players, claimed to be roleblocked.

I don't think its a super unreasonable gambit to guess that they were both targeting you.

Whatever, just read Hapa's case on him and his reactions to my suspicions. There is no way he is town. I can't believe how difficult it is to convince you people that someone who claimed something might be mafia.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 06:28 GMT
#4039
Wait, Prom now says his ability only roleblocks the first person who targets the player he targets and it doesn't block mafia KP?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 06:29 GMT
#4040
On November 27 2012 15:27 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 15:25 syllogism wrote:
On November 27 2012 15:23 Keirathi wrote:
On November 27 2012 15:17 syllogism wrote:
He said he 'knew which way Sand was pointing when he was Rb'd'. His claim has evolved multiple times since then. Why would you even assume on n1 that the only roleblocked people just happened to visit me?

Put yourself in his shoes. You have an ability that roleblocks anyone who targets your target, and you use it night one on a generally accepted strong town player who just won a mayoral election. Then the next day, two people, also known as strong players, claimed to be roleblocked.

I don't think its a super unreasonable gambit to guess that they were both targeting you.

Whatever, just read Hapa's case on him and his reactions to my suspicions. There is no way he is town. I can't believe how difficult it is to convince you people that someone who claimed something might be mafia.

I'm not saying that it's impossible that he's mafia. Hapa's case definitely has merit.

Yours doesn't, though.

Also, like I already said, we have 2 red checks to deal with first, and who knows if we'll even have 3 more lynches.

It makes perfect sense, even if you don't happen to understand.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 06:37 GMT
#4042
Oh there is basically a red check on Acro. Don't worry hopeless, I got your back.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 06:49 GMT
#4045
A compilation of things Prom has so far said about his role

"I know who he was pointing at when he got blocked, okay?"

"I used last night Roleblocks all players who target a single player with their actions. I took a gamble and assumed that I was the only one with a roleblocking ability because only two people claimed RB'd and I assumed that they both targeted Syllo."

"I have an ability which is planted on a single player which, if activated RBs everyone who visits that players. If it is not activated it will after [redacted number of cycle(s)] become a shield to block [ redacted number] of HP damage to the targeted player."

"I was pretty shocked about the damage which Syllo claimed (he was shocked because he knew mafia didn't shoot me, the dmg was probably due to Robo's bus ability inflicting 50 damage or something)"

"essentially the downsides are only if my reads are bad. There are some restrictions on when I can use my claimed ability. "

"my role pm says that if someone targets the player whom I targeted that first player will be roleblocked. I'm not sure about 'everyone takes ten damage' I just asked and it does not block mafia kp."
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 07:40 GMT
#4048
Prom why did you only take 25 damage when I hit you for 75?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 07:45 GMT
#4051
Djodref why are you answering for him?

Actually you know what, I'm done for a few days. There are no active town aligned players left in the game who make even a modicum amount of sense. It's not like we can lynch these people anytime soon and the game is going to take forever given that we are still only in 2300 AD.

Why did you have to be mafia sandro
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 07:58 GMT
#4059
It's not an elitist attitude. I would understand your point of view more if you actually presented reasons as to why you believe Prom is town. Instead you are just blindly defending him for no apparent reason at all. I don't have to prove that someone is mafia, I just have to show that it is probable. It just feels like I've to argue against a brick wall every single day. Even on day 2 people were making excuses for Sandro and I can't understand why.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 08:00 GMT
#4060
It is always possible that I'm wrong, I often am. I just maintain that given what we know about Prom's play and claims, it is much more likely than not that I'm correct.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 08:02 GMT
#4062
For what it is worth, Prom did visit Dienosore last night
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 08:04 GMT
#4064
Prom until you full claim I am going to roleblock you every single cycle.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 08:10 GMT
#4067
No, I want to know your name, all the abilities and what you claim to have done every cycle. You still haven't claimed your day 2 action. You have already claimed so much that this nonsense about not wanting to let mafia know isn't going to fly
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 08:17 GMT
#4070
If you are town, your actions and claimed abilities are much more likely to make sense than if you are mafia. I will be able to evaluate whether your earlier refusals to reveal eg. your role name makes sense. You have already claimed your presumably most powerful ability and you claimed it for no reason at all. You forced someone else to claim their ability, but refuse to provide information that I require.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 08:26 GMT
#4073
I just did that. This is the last time I address you until you provide the information I require. Your role is worthless until you do, because you are going to be roleblocked every cycle.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 08:48 GMT
#4083
There are no contradictions in my play. I'm confirmed town through being the leader of the team and because I got mafia lynched, not merely due to being on a successful quest. Everyone who is on a successful quest should be treated as town until we have reasons to believe otherwise, however.

I did something else on day 1. The damage I inflicted relates to the item I got for completing the mission successfully.

Goodkarma: my read is hardly based on just his role. I agree with most hapa said about prom and in addition prom's reactions to my suspicions are highly indicative of him being mafia.
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