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My only worry is that there is something which occurs to lavos when/if queen zeal dies while Lavos is present.
There was no power which should have revived Toad now. I think it was Lavos coming into the game which made toad live again which means that Toad has to be alive during this event for some reason. Now maybe we have to kill toad for lavos to be mortal (like Djodref on Dieno) or maybe Lavos will be angered by QZ dying as they seem to have some deep conneccction according to the wiki.
Just figured I would post my worries and hopefully discuss them. The fact that scum has not conceded makes me think we're missing something since it seems that they are in an unwinnable situation.
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So, if you are all about telling the truth what was the redacted part of your role pm?
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Is that assuming that Toad is the last scum?
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Okay. Why?
Can you confirm that nothing hit you last cycle?
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anybody got anything to share before deadline?
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cool. So Adam=scum. In case anyone cares.
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Thanks for hosting this GreY, it was fun. Though totally crazy and, I think, a tad too long.
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ha! I feel pretty accomplished about this game. Not only did I figure out people's role names through detective work I also realized that Toad was revived by the game mechanics and I found scum more than once.
Our figuring shit out did make it hard to care about. Can't wait to see the whole set up.
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Phagga: Sorry about that. Not my best moment.
Risen: you are wrong. Acro and Memen explained it already. You left both me and Iamperfection alive in the endgame which was crazy. You had claimed doctors early and decided not to hit them. I don't get it.
Toad: thank you for being so sportsmanly when you were confirmed scum not just shitting up the thread. Really gained a lot of respect for you there.
Hapa: sorry about tunneling you for much of the game. You played in such a way that I couldn't see a townie you playing. You never rallied yourself or town in a big way and I assumed you were scum. Once again I was mislead by my own assumptions about a player whose skill I respect, sometimes even the best don't have their best games and I need to remind myself of that.
Zbo: next time you are replacing out consider not posting. I don't know how many people share my view but I think it is relatively bad mannered to make a big list post and jump ship right after. If you still had a cycle in you that would have been fine play but as it was I'd ask you to reconsider it if you ever need to replace out in the future.
GK: sorry for being wrong about you. But, you know, when someone makes a case on you and you respond to a mentality argument with "this isn't even worth my time" you are doing it wrong. Your responses were way scummier than anything up to that point and I suggest you re-think how you approach being tunneled. It isn;t fun for any of us but your best bet is to play pro-town in response to a case and to work to disprove it instead of just saying that it isn't true.
Syllo: I still don't understand why you tunneled me so hard for so long. I feel that I did an admirable job proving my townieness through the whole game and I really don't understand why you didn't feel the same way. I'd love it if you would take the time so that I can figure out how to play better.
Acro: really, really, really well played. I can't tell you enough how impressed I've been with you this game.
I was shocked as other people claimed throughout the game how much better my abilities were than others. I don't think I would have been so cavalier about outing myself if I had suspected that I had one of the stronger town roles, in fact all of us support roles (myself, Djo and Clarity) seemed the most over powered of the non party member roles.
Grey and Memen (and Hassy too) you guys were great. Thanks. I know I was a little snippy at you guys when you didn't accurately pm me about night results and I just wanted to say sorry. You all did an amazing job hosting this and setting it up. Thanks!
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To be fair I did protect him an inordinate amount of times.
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On December 14 2012 06:31 syllogism wrote:
I didn't believe that your role could exist in the game because it felt way too strong (it was) and I thought your claim timing and reason for claiming were both suspicious. There was no reason to claim and you forced another person who I thought was town to claim for no reason. Then you overreacted to my suspicions. Also I thought you initially clearly said something that suggested that your role RBs and tracks, which is what my role does, but it was actually Kita who alluded to that. In retrospect I forgot that townies love to claim for no reason at all.
Is that other person Sand? Or Marv. I had a scum read on Sand and my goal was to force him to claim. I figured a 1 for 1 trade of me for Sand was awesome for town. He is a well known great player and I am an average player who is good at looking townie and not much else.
Thanks for explaining. The claim may have been silly but I think my play fully exonerated me. I wish my role Roleblocked and Tracked, that is also super over powered (I don't get how, when you had that role, you thought mine was OP) and seems like a fun thing to do.
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It was not totally a sure thing in my mind and I had already planned on using my role to see who targeted you anyway. I had my game theory argument that one of you/Sand was scum and I was very sure of it. I had Sand as scum from d1 and having a role based reason to call him out for it was perfect. I think my claim was silly, you are right, but it still made sense to me at the time.
I think my role was balanced around the idea of me RBing townies as well as scum, the more obvious the target I went for the more townie protection roles I would block. The guy I was protecting couldn't be healed for two cycles either. I don't really know. I'm actually really curious what GreY thinks about it.
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Toad: my ability didn't block your factional KP. Since your kp didn't originate from a player it could not be role blocked.
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