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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 02:09 GMT
#5854
On December 03 2012 11:08 Keirathi wrote:
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On December 03 2012 11:02 iamperfection wrote:
On December 03 2012 10:59 Promethelax wrote:
On December 03 2012 10:54 Keirathi wrote:
On December 03 2012 10:40 Promethelax wrote:
Kier: you have a good meta sense of Hapa, your full read?

Sorry I'm watching IPL.

I don't really know Hapa's meta. This and GSL 3 are the only games I've played with him, and I haven't followed his other games very closely.


Do me a favour. When you have time do a little meta on him.

What are your thoughts on SnB? I've only played with him once before (mtg) and this feels...different now that I go re read that game. That was heavily themed like this and SnB was all up in everyone's face doing his thign. Here he is too back seet to be the same guy but look at WLIIA he was just as in your face but was scum. This, to me, is a new SnB. Also he hit me. I don't like that.

he only has 2.5 games as scum you obs'd the last one and where in one is he that hard for you?

I assume you mean "we're in one".

How do you know that he's scum this game?

wtf are you talking about. im talking about hapa he has 2.5 scum games in his history
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 02:13 GMT
#5858
On December 03 2012 11:13 Keirathi wrote:
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On December 03 2012 11:09 iamperfection wrote:
On December 03 2012 11:08 Keirathi wrote:
On December 03 2012 11:02 iamperfection wrote:
On December 03 2012 10:59 Promethelax wrote:
On December 03 2012 10:54 Keirathi wrote:
On December 03 2012 10:40 Promethelax wrote:
Kier: you have a good meta sense of Hapa, your full read?

Sorry I'm watching IPL.

I don't really know Hapa's meta. This and GSL 3 are the only games I've played with him, and I haven't followed his other games very closely.


Do me a favour. When you have time do a little meta on him.

What are your thoughts on SnB? I've only played with him once before (mtg) and this feels...different now that I go re read that game. That was heavily themed like this and SnB was all up in everyone's face doing his thign. Here he is too back seet to be the same guy but look at WLIIA he was just as in your face but was scum. This, to me, is a new SnB. Also he hit me. I don't like that.

he only has 2.5 games as scum you obs'd the last one and where in one is he that hard for you?

I assume you mean "we're in one".

How do you know that he's scum this game?

wtf are you talking about. im talking about hapa he has 2.5 scum games in his history

You said "he only has 2.5 games as scum. You obs'd the last one, and we're in one. Is he that hard for you?"

I'm wondering where you got the "and we're in one" part from?

prom played in liquid city where hapa replaced in as scum.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 02:17 GMT
#5863
On December 03 2012 11:16 Keirathi wrote:
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On December 03 2012 11:14 Promethelax wrote:
K-dizzle, I think you are misreading Imp. He asked 'where in one [of those games] is [hapa] this hard for you [to read]. I think.

Oh, that makes a bit more sense.

Learn to fucking speak english iamp.

fuck off
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 02:19 GMT
#5865
Keirathi you were the one going herp derp did iamp scum slip i wonder if he is scum despite him being the person to be verified going around healing people that are likely town.

dont ask stupid questions
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 02:24 GMT
#5868
On December 03 2012 11:21 Keirathi wrote:
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On December 03 2012 11:19 iamperfection wrote:
Keirathi you were the one going herp derp did iamp scum slip i wonder if he is scum despite him being the person to be verified going around healing people that are likely town.

dont ask stupid questions

I don't give a fuck if you've been healing likely town members. Who said scum can't have a healing role?

You've not played like your normal self this game, and I've been giving you a free ride because of the healing. Nothing other than that has made me think you were town this whole game.

because that would be retarded.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 02:29 GMT
#5871
i dont know what you guys are doing if you are not using mechanics of the game to help you get reads. Part of the reason i had a very strong town read on marv after cycle 1 was because he took significant damage. So i dont think your using all the tools available to you if you are going to be super parnoid about everything.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 02:45 GMT
#5880
Goodkarma claimed scum with these posts. A town member does not think like this. Also his defense for it was basically this was stupid sorry. i would like to lynch him

On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote:
My strongandbig read was in fact in large part due to activity, in addition to the incomplete cases / reads he was bringing up. I was unaware, however, of the severe lack of internet he was experiencing, and will back off of him for now...

In its place I provide a mafia (the game) favorite, a scum suspect shortlist:

1) Iamp - I have a good "gut feel" about this guy I guess you could say. But he still has yet to contribute anything meaningful, which earns him a spot here. Would be willing to give him more time to see if his roleclaim checks out.
2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read...
3) phagga - Need to reread his filter at some point (but not something I'm focusing on today). He has been pro-town in his contributions, but I can't help but feel he is also "playing it safe" and doing what he can to fly under the radar...
4) Adam - lurker who might need to be shot too.
5) Kita - I'm inclined to believe Marv's read of 3rd party
6) Cave - This guy won't be figured out without getting vigi killed. Shoot first, ask questions later...
7) Z-boson - From my experience with him, he likes to play pretty safe as scum, whereas as town he is rather reckless to the point of being pretty easy to mislynch. He definitely is making his own reads and contributing to thread, but all his reads I would call "safe" ones in that he is targeting almost exclusively lurkers... Null read atm, even after looking into filter.
8) Prox - Tbh I don't know what to do with him. Syllo's input is definitely appreciated, but I don't see him as a strong scum read (closer to null...).
9) Strong - I had a strong scum read based both off meta and on filter. However, with meta differences explained, I'm inclined to give him more of a chance to establish himself as town before coming to conclusions.
10) Toad - Scum
11) Hopeless (maybe) - clearly anti-town, but I'm still not convinced that he's scum. Would even go so far as to say slight town read...


On November 28 2012 10:03 goodkarma wrote:
I know people hate lists, but honestly establishing town is just as important, if not moreso, than finding scum this game. So I have less of a problem with lists.

My current conclusions:

1) Vigi shoot VE, Cave, and maybe Adam (in that order).
2) Kita probably is 3rd party...
3) Rolecheck Prox. if possible...
4) Toad = scum...

And in case you were wondering, I would say that everyone not on that list is town at this point...

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 02:47 GMT
#5883
On December 03 2012 11:46 Promethelax wrote:
thank you for proving my point. We, as a whole, need to stop this. Yes, you are shitting up the thread. Now stop it.

VE=scum.

why

he just hasn't been here at all why does that = scum

in terms of ve
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 02:50 GMT
#5888
On December 03 2012 11:48 Promethelax wrote:
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On November 29 2012 13:11 iamperfection wrote:
On November 29 2012 13:08 Promethelax wrote:
On November 29 2012 13:06 iamperfection wrote:
you have reservations about sylo prom?


I do. I've posted them before but yeah, I want some input though because I am made out of paranoia and might just be totally wrong. (if you aren't sure about how paranoid I am go look at ACME where I intentionally got Acro to roleclaim roleblocker so that scum would kill him if he was town).

i will have to look at it tomorrow but from my natural reading of the thread i have seen nothing.


How did this look go? You did not follow through at all Imp. Tell me your thinks.

scum sylo led the town to success on day 1 on purpose is what it amounted to.

he is town.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 02:51 GMT
#5889
On December 03 2012 11:50 Promethelax wrote:
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On December 03 2012 11:47 iamperfection wrote:
On December 03 2012 11:46 Promethelax wrote:
thank you for proving my point. We, as a whole, need to stop this. Yes, you are shitting up the thread. Now stop it.

VE=scum.

why

he just hasn't been here at all why does that = scum

in terms of ve


Because VE has done something no townie VE would do. He has waited for others to make cases and made his own cases to sheep those. He also listens to the cases of the people he thinks are scum. (He had Hapa as scum but Hapa made a case on me so I was scum. I made a case on GK so VE made a case on GK). VE=Scum.

isnt ve super active as scum?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 14:17 GMT
#5973
On December 03 2012 23:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thanks Clairity <3
I think my vet ability is cooler
Its called
Poximity bomb
I can only assume that it gives the pox to all the people who visit me

Why were you asking for heals then?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 14:21 GMT
#5977
On December 03 2012 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Iamp, think.
You have 1 ability only?
Also Prome, how does claiming ability names do anything?

i have 2 but whats the point
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 14:23 GMT
#5978
On December 03 2012 21:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On December 03 2012 21:26 syllogism wrote:
We should take epoch to an era that benefits our healers most


Like I said I don't have an era specified but if I did it would be EoT, I dunno about iamp and if he suggests somewhere else I'll follow his lead.

my era would be the present but it doesn't say anything about benefits from the time period in my role.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 14:43 GMT
#5988
prom wants hapa to be scum really bad

seems like your not trying to actually figure it out Prom
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 14:48 GMT
#5990
On December 03 2012 23:45 Promethelax wrote:
call me scum as much as you want, it won't make it true. You know my scum play better than literally everyone else in this game and you aren't this thick usually. What is going on in there, huh? I thought protective roles weren't scum? You said your heals proved you town. Now go look at my role and eat your contradiction.

you have been going to great lengths to try and prove hapa to be scum. Doesn't seem like your actually trying to figure it out to me.

Nice omgus
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 14:54 GMT
#5992
On December 03 2012 10:20 Hapahauli wrote:
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On December 03 2012 10:15 Keirathi wrote:
I'm inclined to believe that Hapa is telling the truth about the host PMs because I trust that Hapa is an honorable player. If he's the kind of person that would lie about something like that to win a game, then fuck that and I'll never play with him again.

I don't necessarily think that he's town again (it's hard to put aside the bias I already have), but the missing heal thing doesn't condemn him to me. I'll have another look through his filter again later, though.


<3

While you're there, please keep in mind some of my actions this game and see if they make sense from a scum perspective:
1) I was the first player to aggressively contest Toad's candidacy for party leader.
2) I was amongst the first to vote Toad on the D2 lynch (the 2nd player I think) and pushed for his lynch. Does it make sense for mafia to turn down an easy bussing opportunity (Sandro) in order to put heavy suspicion on another scumteam member?
3) Toad claimed to shoot me for 100 damage (BEFORE he gave up on the game and BEFORE Acro's check). If I'm lying about the 100 damage, who else could Toad have plausibly targeted?

Like hapa brought up great points here and you have basically ignored them entirely. Instead just shouting still scum for host pm reasons.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 15:00 GMT
#5994
On December 03 2012 23:45 Promethelax wrote:
call me scum as much as you want, it won't make it true. You know my scum play better than literally everyone else in this game and you aren't this thick usually. What is going on in there, huh? I thought protective roles weren't scum? You said your heals proved you town. Now go look at my role and eat your contradiction.

also unlike your abilty mine is 100% cofirmed as truth.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 15:03 GMT
#5995
On December 03 2012 23:59 syllogism wrote:
Iamperfection I don't care if you believe Hapa is town (he isn't), but at least don't heal him again

my heals have been great this game
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 15:14 GMT
#6000
On December 04 2012 00:12 syllogism wrote:
He also didn't go anywhere on the night that he claimed having visited Clarity

Well hapa? what say you.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
December 03 2012 15:18 GMT
#6004
On December 04 2012 00:17 Promethelax wrote:
oh, okay. Never you mind me. So why wouldn't he use his ability that night but claim to have used it? I don't see the scum motivation. Playing devil's advocate here but please, indulge me.

why would he lie?
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