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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 15:28 GMT
#4166
On November 28 2012 00:26 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 23:48 iamperfection wrote:
On November 27 2012 23:47 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 27 2012 23:42 iamperfection wrote:
which means hapa wasn't dmg cycle 1


I assure you I was. If you don't believe me, I claimed 100 damage pretty early on in the cycle and Toad mentioned he shot me as a "+EV shot" or something (before he was confirmed scum to the thread). So where's the theory here? That Toad and I are scumbuddies? That he didn't just shoot me in self-preservation after I was one of the few to press for his lynch D2?

then why didn't you report my heal?


Because I didn't receive notification of a heal >>

So either
a) You didn't heal me (but I don't know why you'd lie about that)
b) I took more than 100 damage

uh let me go check something.

From my understanding you receive a notification as long as the heal does actual healing.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 15:39 GMT
#4170
hapa i don't see your dmg report after day 1 where was it?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 16:02 GMT
#4172
On November 28 2012 01:01 Acrofales wrote:
Anybody need to kill the Golem Overlord? Chronopedia mentions he has a countdown. That is the only one I can find.

Fuck it, lets try
##kill Golem Overlord

Note, I do not have this ability in my role pm and have no clue whether it'll work or not, but it's the only thing related to a countdown I can find. It is pure speculation.

i will give you so many e-sports dollars if that actually works
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 16:19 GMT
#4177
On November 28 2012 01:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh 'doh sorry I keep mixing up my days.

I took 0 damage D1,
100 damage D2
50 damage D3

Forgot D1 existed for some reason >>

All I know is that I received a PM after Day 2 stating I took 100 damage
Then I received a PM after D3 stating I took 50.
I'm grateful that you guys healed me, but either I didn't receive the heal or I simply took a but-load of damage on those days. I'm thinking the latter.

i healed you day 1 so it was wasted
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 16:19 GMT
#4178
On November 28 2012 01:18 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why mafia would shoot you for massive damage on those two days, when their main priority should be eliminating semi-confirmed townies.

I can't believe you two were healing him anyway, but I perhaps he didn't believe it either. Hapa definitely shouldn't be on a team until this is sorted out.

it was day 1 nobody was semi confirmed.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 16:20 GMT
#4179
so you wouldn't receive a notification of my heal day 1 so something is amiss here in regards of the heal from clarity.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 16:27 GMT
#4181
On November 28 2012 01:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 01:18 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why mafia would shoot you for massive damage on those two days, when their main priority should be eliminating semi-confirmed townies.

I can't believe you two were healing him anyway, but I perhaps he didn't believe it either. Hapa definitely shouldn't be on a team until this is sorted out.


Well both of those guys (clarity and iamp) have town reads on me, so the heals make sense from that perspective.

From what I understand:
Post-D1: I took 0 damage. Either iamp's claimed heal was completely wasted OR it nullified any damage directed towards me.
Post-D2: I took 100 damage. No one healed me (or no one has claimed so), and Toad claimed he shot me for 100.
Post-D3: I took 50 damage, and nl_clarity healed me for an undisclosed amount, indicating that I took more than 50 damage.

you are not listening.

say you took 20 dmg and i healed you.

You would get

you took 20 dmg
and you were healed

you took no damage cycle1
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 16:46 GMT
#4194
On November 28 2012 01:33 Acrofales wrote:
Also, stop shitting up the thread repeating yourselves over and over and OVER about who healed what damage when and having a clusterfuck of miscommunication.

What I am FAR more interested in is knowing why Iamperfection thought Hapa would need healing D1.

I was drunk at the pats jets game on thanksgiving i monitored the thread from my phone saw some of hapas post decided fuck it looks town enough for me and did what i did.

I originally was going to heal sylo i switched it.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 22:10 GMT
#4319
On November 28 2012 02:25 Hapahauli wrote:
@ iamp

Acro made a comment on wanting to hear an explanation about you healing me D1, and I'm inclined to agree. You had a really strong town read on me D1...
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 05:27 iamperfection wrote:
From phone I saw hapas post he has my sword this is town hapa
[b]## vote hapa [b//]

...however it's pretty unexplained. Is you being drunk Thanksgiving the only explanation you have for this (both the town-read and the heal)? Needless to say it's not very convincing.

Uh the truth is unsatisfying?

Deal with it.

I regret that decision i should have healed sylo.

My other 2 heals make perfect sense. I had a extremely strong town reads on clarity_nl and Marv. They both reported being healed.

So i dont really care for what your getting at.

if you think im scum explain it please.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 22:15 GMT
#4320
On November 28 2012 05:46 Promethelax wrote:
I plan on targeting a member of the party or the party leader with my first ability tonight. I will not reveal my target so that mafia is forced to claim their roleblocks.

and what if someone would like to heal a party member or leader?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#4329
On November 28 2012 08:04 Djodref wrote:


Disclaimer: Dieno is already taken care of !




It looks like Dieno is a serious contender for the title of party leader today.
I don't want people to waste heals or protections on him because I have already used a retroactive ability on him which totally protects him. I have already saved him during the second cycle I believe.
So now you are free to use your abilities on someone else ^^

I aslo would like Dieno to consider taking me instead of TC on his party because I'm not fully trusting TC yet (hence my vote on Keirathi) but I'm not going to fight for it because Dieno's party is likely to succeed already imo.

um....

ok i guess
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 23:43 GMT
#4333
also

## vote Dieno
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 27 2012 23:54 GMT
#4339
On November 28 2012 08:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 07:10 iamperfection wrote:
On November 28 2012 02:25 Hapahauli wrote:
@ iamp

Acro made a comment on wanting to hear an explanation about you healing me D1, and I'm inclined to agree. You had a really strong town read on me D1...
On November 23 2012 05:27 iamperfection wrote:
From phone I saw hapas post he has my sword this is town hapa
[b]## vote hapa [b//]

...however it's pretty unexplained. Is you being drunk Thanksgiving the only explanation you have for this (both the town-read and the heal)? Needless to say it's not very convincing.

Uh the truth is unsatisfying?

Deal with it.

I regret that decision i should have healed sylo.

My other 2 heals make perfect sense. I had a extremely strong town reads on clarity_nl and Marv. They both reported being healed.

So i dont really care for what your getting at.

if you think im scum explain it please.


Was just curious and probing. Went through your filter in the last few hours and I'm pretty sure you're town.

Have some reads on the lurkers pending for a post tonight.

really i think i have been playing bad the things in my filter shouldn't make you think i'm town. My claims and damage reports should make you think it.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 28 2012 00:13 GMT
#4344
On November 28 2012 09:11 GreYMisT wrote:
4

the gods mock us
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 28 2012 01:01 GMT
#4369
On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote:
My strongandbig read was in fact in large part due to activity, in addition to the incomplete cases / reads he was bringing up. I was unaware, however, of the severe lack of internet he was experiencing, and will back off of him for now...

In its place I provide a mafia (the game) favorite, a scum suspect shortlist:

1) Iamp - I have a good "gut feel" about this guy I guess you could say. But he still has yet to contribute anything meaningful, which earns him a spot here. Would be willing to give him more time to see if his roleclaim checks out.
2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read...
3) phagga - Need to reread his filter at some point (but not something I'm focusing on today). He has been pro-town in his contributions, but I can't help but feel he is also "playing it safe" and doing what he can to fly under the radar...
4) Adam - lurker who might need to be shot too.
5) Kita - I'm inclined to believe Marv's read of 3rd party
6) Cave - This guy won't be figured out without getting vigi killed. Shoot first, ask questions later...
7) Z-boson - From my experience with him, he likes to play pretty safe as scum, whereas as town he is rather reckless to the point of being pretty easy to mislynch. He definitely is making his own reads and contributing to thread, but all his reads I would call "safe" ones in that he is targeting almost exclusively lurkers... Null read atm, even after looking into filter.
8) Prox - Tbh I don't know what to do with him. Syllo's input is definitely appreciated, but I don't see him as a strong scum read (closer to null...).
9) Strong - I had a strong scum read based both off meta and on filter. However, with meta differences explained, I'm inclined to give him more of a chance to establish himself as town before coming to conclusions.
10) Toad - Scum
11) Hopeless (maybe) - clearly anti-town, but I'm still not convinced that he's scum. Would even go so far as to say slight town read...

ya don't listen to this at all shoot the scum
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 28 2012 01:03 GMT
#4370
On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote:

2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read...


And i cant believe you said something like this im gonna have to go through your entire filter when i have time
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 28 2012 01:10 GMT
#4376
On November 28 2012 10:07 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 10:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote:

2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read...


And i cant believe you said something like this im gonna have to go through your entire filter when i have time


That might be the first productive thing you've done all game...

Care to explain in what universe that it would be good idea that you think its a good idea to shoot ve if you think he is more likely to be town.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 28 2012 01:17 GMT
#4380
On November 28 2012 10:13 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 10:01 iamperfection wrote:
On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote:
My strongandbig read was in fact in large part due to activity, in addition to the incomplete cases / reads he was bringing up. I was unaware, however, of the severe lack of internet he was experiencing, and will back off of him for now...

In its place I provide a mafia (the game) favorite, a scum suspect shortlist:

1) Iamp - I have a good "gut feel" about this guy I guess you could say. But he still has yet to contribute anything meaningful, which earns him a spot here. Would be willing to give him more time to see if his roleclaim checks out.
2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read...
3) phagga - Need to reread his filter at some point (but not something I'm focusing on today). He has been pro-town in his contributions, but I can't help but feel he is also "playing it safe" and doing what he can to fly under the radar...
4) Adam - lurker who might need to be shot too.
5) Kita - I'm inclined to believe Marv's read of 3rd party
6) Cave - This guy won't be figured out without getting vigi killed. Shoot first, ask questions later...
7) Z-boson - From my experience with him, he likes to play pretty safe as scum, whereas as town he is rather reckless to the point of being pretty easy to mislynch. He definitely is making his own reads and contributing to thread, but all his reads I would call "safe" ones in that he is targeting almost exclusively lurkers... Null read atm, even after looking into filter.
8) Prox - Tbh I don't know what to do with him. Syllo's input is definitely appreciated, but I don't see him as a strong scum read (closer to null...).
9) Strong - I had a strong scum read based both off meta and on filter. However, with meta differences explained, I'm inclined to give him more of a chance to establish himself as town before coming to conclusions.
10) Toad - Scum
11) Hopeless (maybe) - clearly anti-town, but I'm still not convinced that he's scum. Would even go so far as to say slight town read...

ya don't listen to this at all shoot the scum


And which scum exactly would you propose we shoot then?

All the people I proposed have a decent chance of flipping scum.

you literally said ve is likely to be town shoot him first.

And your asking a stupid question. I have no idea what town kp we have. Those vigs should decide. If you can kill toad they should do it. Other than that they should just attack their scum reads.

i would shoot toad and then cave and then you if you keep it up
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 28 2012 01:19 GMT
#4383
On November 28 2012 10:18 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 10:10 iamperfection wrote:
On November 28 2012 10:07 goodkarma wrote:
On November 28 2012 10:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote:

2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read...


And i cant believe you said something like this im gonna have to go through your entire filter when i have time


That might be the first productive thing you've done all game...

Care to explain in what universe that it would be good idea that you think its a good idea to shoot ve if you think he is more likely to be town.


He is gone. Absent. Nonpresent. I actually don't know much about his meta outside of what I've heard of his reputation here, so that was speculation. He could be town. He could be scum. But come endgame, there's no way of knowing. Therefore, he has to go.

so maybe you should do some research non talking ve isn't like ve at all either way. Just because its different it doesn't mean he is scum
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 28 2012 01:23 GMT
#4387
@ve

you going to be busy for the foreseeable future?
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