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On November 25 2012 21:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Because promes roleblocks people who attack syllo. Syllo's damage may have been 'self-flicted' by visiting a vet and such. I also dont totally understand it @Oats No, it means that the mafia has a certain amount of damage to inflict by night as a group (it is called factional KP), according to Prome explanation.This damage is not coming from one specific player, so prome cannot roleblock anything and the damage goes through his protection. But the interesting thing is that the mafia was maybe planning to bus syllo (but we are not sure of this one), so the damage directed to syllo was not supposed to go to syllo nut another person. | ||
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On November 25 2012 21:54 marvellosity wrote: Ok. Does factional KP not being player related make sense... hmm. syllo took what, 50 damage? and a bunch of damage spread around a load of other players. I suppose I could believe that. The question is what does the 'framed' bus driver mean in sandroba's role? What does the 'framed' bit mean? I don't know, but I guess that the mafia was planning to bus syllo with CJ. It should have been the best move from their point of view. The fact that they directed some of the factional KP to syllo (i.e. in fact to CJ) makes me think that CJ is not in the scumteam but town or 3rd party. Do you agree ? | ||
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On November 25 2012 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Ahh, but do you think that damage taken by another player was meant to be taken by syllo? How does Prome know that there is factional KP? If it exists, it seems pretty low considering dieno got hit for 400+ and marv got hit by 200 but the factional KP is 125? Yes, I suspect that the damage taken by CJ (town or mafia or another 3rd party damage) was meant to be directed to syllo. CJ was going to attract the most of town-related KP imo, and mafia should have known this too... What do you think ? I have no idea how much the factional KP should be. | ||
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On November 25 2012 22:02 marvellosity wrote: Perhaps, but I don't think that has to be true at all. Like, they could simply bus syllogism with another townie on the basis that syllogism is highly likely to be the target of protections. Maybe Dinesore's damage (or even mine) was supposed to be for syllogism on the basis that he was less likely to be protected (indeed, I protected syllo but not Dino) But should it not have been the best move, from a mafia point of view ? It's sure that CaveJohnson was not going to be protected at all, but that's totally not the true for you or for Dieno. Anyway, it's just speculation, but that is making me personally say that CJ is less likely to be mafia. | ||
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On November 25 2012 22:10 Oatsmaster wrote: LOL Marv I switched Syllo and Sandro. Sandro got hit with 125. Djo your speculation on who they WANTED to bus syllo with is really weird. You are full-on GUESSING at this point. Please stop. lol, please let me enjoy this game the way I want. I like speculation  Also, if you manage to get on the right tracks, speculation can have good results sometimes. I'll drop it but I'm now inclined to think that CJ is likely to not be mafia. | ||
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On November 25 2012 22:10 Oatsmaster wrote: LOL Marv I switched Syllo and Sandro. Sandro got hit with 125. Djo your speculation on who they WANTED to bus syllo with is really weird. You are full-on GUESSING at this point. Please stop. @Oats I think that the total amount of the factional KP is something like 800 damage points or something like this, maximum 1000 I would say. Then they decide the repartition of the damage between the different players. I suspect the mafia to have gone full force against Dieno last night because the amount of claimed KP today is very low compared to yesterday... I think Dieno has a good idea of how much the factional KP is but he won't tell us  | ||
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On November 25 2012 22:18 Acrofales wrote: Why CJ? What does CJ have to do with anything here? I'm confused why you bring him into this, and furthermore are convinced that CJ and Syllo were bussed. I don't know, it's just a guess. But, from a mafia point of view, it would have been the best plan in my opinion. If you buss CJ with syllo, you don't need to spend so much mafia KP on syllo because he is not going to get protected and is going to receive the damage from possible vig-type roles targeting CJ (I'm sure you would have shot Drazerk if you could). It's a win-win for the mafia... But it was just bold speculation, I'll drop it now :s | ||
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Toad is 99% scum For toad to be town, it would take
On a side note, I think that Hopeless is likely to be his scum partner and that Toad really need to have vote cast on him at each cycle. The robot claim was the fakeclaim associated to his role, I would say. Okay, I guess that everybody would agree on this one already, so that wasn't my main point. How do we handle him ? I think the safest way would be to roleblock him until we can kill him during the day. I think that night actions directed towards him are likely to be redirected via busses by the mafia team or 3rd party players. Does anybody has an idea about how we could safely get rid of him instead of using a lynch ? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [cycle 1 damage taken claims] +
+ Show Spoiler [cycle 2 damage taken claims] +
I expect the four of us to take at least 40 damage the next cycle. @iamp Any idea why you would have been healed ? | ||
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On November 26 2012 00:15 CaveJohnson wrote: 25 19 7 5 Not number related I guess. It could be collateral damage if you all targeted the same person. I know mine lasts for 2 cycles so I wouldn't be too worried if that was the case. I didn't not target anyone during the first cycle :s | ||
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On November 26 2012 00:19 risk.nuke wrote: Why am I like a ghost in these games. Even when I run for leader I am mostly ignored. I think it's because you are not active enough I won't vote for you by the way, there are some people that I trust more. I understand how you feel if it can do any good to you. | ||
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On November 26 2012 00:21 CaveJohnson wrote: Maybe its something targeting your time period? I don't know, we'll see tomorrow. I'm more interested by the fact that iamp got healed Like, seriously, who would heal this guy when we have Dieno, Oats or syllo to protect ? | ||
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lol, I have no problem with you healing marv Clarity. You were so obvious by the way | ||
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On November 26 2012 00:26 risk.nuke wrote: It doesn't do me any good, you're free to vote for whoever you want but even if you don't want to vote for me you can still comment on me for everyone's benefit. Well, I would not vote for the following reasons
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On November 26 2012 00:29 Clarity_nl wrote: It was 1 shot anyway, but marv would've only gotten healed with the right circumstances that I'm not willing to share, but let me just say that marv has not been lying about his night stuff. Anyway, healing marv makes sense, especially coming from you. But seriously who would heal iamp and why ? Where is iamp by the way ? Is he lurking in the scumQT again or what ? | ||
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On November 26 2012 00:34 Clarity_nl wrote: I think it's just a 1shot, pick 3 people, they will take incremental damage for X cycles. I don't think there's much more to read into it. I do think it makes it more likely that djo and iamp are town though, although obviously it's possible one of us is lying about the damage. @Clarity Are you the one lying about the damage ? | ||
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On November 26 2012 00:46 Clarity_nl wrote: Does it matter how I answer? No, I'm not lying. So why did you say that this ability is picking 3 people ? | ||
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On November 26 2012 00:51 Clarity_nl wrote: Oh it's 4? Djo iamp me and? Acro On November 26 2012 00:09 Djodref wrote: I would also like to emphasize that Acrofales, Clarity, iamperfection and me have been targeted by the same ability (or some of us are lying about it, I don't know). I don't think it's alignment related stuff but I would like you to acknowledge it. + Show Spoiler [cycle 1 damage taken claims] +
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I expect the four of us to take at least 40 damage the next cycle. @iamp Any idea why you would have been healed ? | ||
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