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On November 16 2012 00:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 16 2012 00:19 debears wrote:
And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early Pretty sure he's not that naive. Correct. Liquid City is a perfect comparison here - I was playing a pretty nice game as scum, and then totally unexpectedly I was outed night 1 by a blue mechanic. I went down, and then town fucked themselves in the asses for days looking at connections I had with people.
i didnt i fucked myself much later.
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On November 16 2012 01:11 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 00:52 Hopeless1der wrote:I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum: + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now: 1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=40#7962) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL. 3) Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy ROFL at no meta again. ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=47#9374) ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.
But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum. You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\ In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then SUDDENLY! A meta appears. You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town ##FOS Hopeless
I dont think thats really what he is say at all he saying he would have been suspicious of hapa if you flipped town which is reasonable i would say.
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like i would have been super suspicious even more so of hapa as he would have made two large cases on townies in that scenario.
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hey uh crossfire broski i told you to be there up until the deadline. what happened you commented after the shitstorm any thoughts on it. I thought youd be there to with the swords of justice against hapa?
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nobody mind me by the way im just musing through some filter saying what i see.
Kickstart town??!!?
I dont put much stock in his case early on as i could easily see hapa telling him to be suspicious of him since kickstart would have never been able to pull a lynch on him. but i dont see him reacting that quickly to the sudden wagon.
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On November 16 2012 01:33 marvellosity wrote:
I think Crossfire has a decent chance of flipping scum.
The blazinghand case out of left field at a stupid time still bothers me don't really see a scum doing that.
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On November 16 2012 01:40 marvellosity wrote:
I do, it demonstrates that he basically hadn't been reading the thread, and that was going to be his predetermined contribution to the thread.
He popped his vote on Z-Bo 25 minutes before the deadline, and then as the night post came up, popped up to say "good job town".
There was no emotional investment in the lynch at all, nor do I see any signs of him being invested in the game. I just looked at his filter from Whose Line and he seemed waaaaaaay more invested in the game. Real life internet excuses or no.
you do have a point there.
I would like to hear more from him as well as thrawn
Thrawn i kind of expect more from you and you seem to be just attacking peoples logic on why they were changing votes and not saying wether it was scummy or not. As someone who likes to change his vote all the time i dont really like just attacks of that kind.
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On November 16 2012 03:11 Z-BosoN wrote:iamperfection is also someone on hapa's train I can't make much sense of. In GSL, he showed that he has no problem bussing. Did so with marv getting lynched on day two quite fast. Now let's take a look at his filter: He's basically been sheeping marv like mad this game: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:11 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:10 marvellosity wrote:
why is he making that post instead of bothering to read the thread, where BH is clearly not a possibility?
It's just nonsense. exactly its so terrible. Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:45 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:45 marvellosity wrote:
yeah this is gonna be a mislynch i agree ## Unvote Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:49 iamperfection wrote:
## Vote z-boson
in marv i trust When suddenly, out of nowhere, he says: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:54 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:53 Blazinghand wrote:On November 15 2012 10:53 debears wrote:
Save Hapa for d2 BH yeah basically this well i actually wouldnt mind doing it now this is not town hapa. going herp derp scumslip scumslip I'd like to know what herp derp "scumslips" he's referring to. When going through his filter, the only mention of scumslip I found is this: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:30 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:Holy scumslip DP iamp - good stuff OK. I was not suggesting we switch on to clarity. What I was doing is making a case I was convinced of as I promised. Obviously we are not going to lynch him. Did you see a vote? ##unvote##Vote DarthPunk ya i dont like that hapa i wouldn't call it a scum slip its a more of being stupid slip. Which to me doesn't look much like a scumslip (or stupid-slip) So I would also like him to clarify why he suddenly decided that he was going to not sheep marv and go for hapa. Also, this is open to interpretation, but his exchange with hapa, regarding my explanation, makes it seem like he's more suspicious of me than of hapa Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 09:58 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 09:50 Hapahauli wrote:http://postimage.org/image/9ilt0jqpt/Hapa = Melvin Z-Bo = Paulo The above is a small snip of a skype convo we had a few weeks back. I obviously don't want to screenshot the whole thing (it goes on a while), but this should get the gist of it - Z-Bo really wanted to play a less-active style of play and was running it by me (I advised against it, but he was unconvinced throughout). This makes me think that this could be town Z-Bo. I know what Ver's guide says about the random 1-liners and what not but I really just disagree with it in this specific case. I think it's just a product of him wanting to post less. He could be scum, but at the end of the day, debears is much scummier to me. that all from the skype conversation? He doesn't really say much about changing his style fundamentally there just that he is going to post less and he failed to do so. Especially when earlier on he agreed with the case on debears with hapa: Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 10:19 iamperfection wrote:On November 14 2012 10:13 Hapahauli wrote:On November 14 2012 09:47 marvellosity wrote:
i'm starting to ponder debears also Looking at debears, there's not much to say other than there's not much substance in his 4-page filter. Lots of short, 1/2 line posts with banter. He jumps on Hopeless really quickly, who's one of the easier targets in the game. He's then pretty quick to jump on iamperfection, and has been pushing that "read" since. As previously stated, his "vote post" looks like an overkill-case. But the thing that really sticks out to me is that he's been tunneling iamperfection for the last few hours yet still has his vote on Hopeless. He's using a lot of strong language against iamperfection (much stronger than against hopeless), and from his filter it looks like iamperfection is his top scumread. At this point he's much more content to push the read on iamperfection than his one on Hopeless, and I see no townie reason why his vote isn't where his mouth is. ##Unvote##Vote debears i might be able to get behind this but i will wait for him to respond. Looking at it your absolutely right because i had to double check i could have sworn his vote was on me but it in fact isn't. He did use strong language but didnt put the vote out there and was curios to see what others thought (Testing the waters maybe?) however i will wait for him to respond. So, iamperfection, would like you, as well, to explain your thoughts, and be more clear on what you are referring to when you said "herp derp scumslip scumslip" and why you chose hapa over me. and i aired some misgivings about hapa well before so i dont really know what to say to you.
i litteraly have no idea what your talking about. I always sheep marv and i really haven't done it this game.
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On November 16 2012 03:11 Z-BosoN wrote:iamperfection is also someone on hapa's train I can't make much sense of. In GSL, he showed that he has no problem bussing. Did so with marv getting lynched on day two quite fast. Now let's take a look at his filter: He's basically been sheeping marv like mad this game: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:11 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:10 marvellosity wrote:
why is he making that post instead of bothering to read the thread, where BH is clearly not a possibility?
It's just nonsense. exactly its so terrible. Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:45 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:45 marvellosity wrote:
yeah this is gonna be a mislynch i agree ## Unvote Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:49 iamperfection wrote:
## Vote z-boson
in marv i trust When suddenly, out of nowhere, he says: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:54 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:53 Blazinghand wrote:On November 15 2012 10:53 debears wrote:
Save Hapa for d2 BH yeah basically this well i actually wouldnt mind doing it now this is not town hapa. going herp derp scumslip scumslip I'd like to know what herp derp "scumslips" he's referring to. When going through his filter, the only mention of scumslip I found is this: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:30 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:Holy scumslip DP iamp - good stuff OK. I was not suggesting we switch on to clarity. What I was doing is making a case I was convinced of as I promised. Obviously we are not going to lynch him. Did you see a vote? ##unvote##Vote DarthPunk ya i dont like that hapa i wouldn't call it a scum slip its a more of being stupid slip. Which to me doesn't look much like a scumslip (or stupid-slip) So I would also like him to clarify why he suddenly decided that he was going to not sheep marv and go for hapa. Also, this is open to interpretation, but his exchange with hapa, regarding my explanation, makes it seem like he's more suspicious of me than of hapa Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 09:58 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 09:50 Hapahauli wrote:http://postimage.org/image/9ilt0jqpt/Hapa = Melvin Z-Bo = Paulo The above is a small snip of a skype convo we had a few weeks back. I obviously don't want to screenshot the whole thing (it goes on a while), but this should get the gist of it - Z-Bo really wanted to play a less-active style of play and was running it by me (I advised against it, but he was unconvinced throughout). This makes me think that this could be town Z-Bo. I know what Ver's guide says about the random 1-liners and what not but I really just disagree with it in this specific case. I think it's just a product of him wanting to post less. He could be scum, but at the end of the day, debears is much scummier to me. that all from the skype conversation? He doesn't really say much about changing his style fundamentally there just that he is going to post less and he failed to do so. Especially when earlier on he agreed with the case on debears with hapa: Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 10:19 iamperfection wrote:On November 14 2012 10:13 Hapahauli wrote:On November 14 2012 09:47 marvellosity wrote:
i'm starting to ponder debears also Looking at debears, there's not much to say other than there's not much substance in his 4-page filter. Lots of short, 1/2 line posts with banter. He jumps on Hopeless really quickly, who's one of the easier targets in the game. He's then pretty quick to jump on iamperfection, and has been pushing that "read" since. As previously stated, his "vote post" looks like an overkill-case. But the thing that really sticks out to me is that he's been tunneling iamperfection for the last few hours yet still has his vote on Hopeless. He's using a lot of strong language against iamperfection (much stronger than against hopeless), and from his filter it looks like iamperfection is his top scumread. At this point he's much more content to push the read on iamperfection than his one on Hopeless, and I see no townie reason why his vote isn't where his mouth is. ##Unvote##Vote debears i might be able to get behind this but i will wait for him to respond. Looking at it your absolutely right because i had to double check i could have sworn his vote was on me but it in fact isn't. He did use strong language but didnt put the vote out there and was curios to see what others thought (Testing the waters maybe?) however i will wait for him to respond. So, iamperfection, would like you, as well, to explain your thoughts, and be more clear on what you are referring to when you said "herp derp scumslip scumslip" and why you chose hapa over me.
ebwop quote fuck up
i litteraly have no idea what your talking about. I always sheep marv and i really haven't done it this game. and i aired some misgivings about hapa well before so i dont really know what to say to you.
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marv you dont think bh is just playing wifom mind games with the mafia in being a jk?
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On November 16 2012 06:34 Kickstart wrote:
And this shit about me lurking is getting annoying, I have posts all throughout the thread, I have given my views on people and been completely genuine. Just because I'm not spamming up the thread with useless one-liner shit posts like half the people here doesn't mean I'm lurking.
i am by no means an activity fiend and i have a 9 page filter to your 2 so yes that would be defined as lurking. And dont knock 1 line posts. We killed hapa with 1 line posts.
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meh vig do what you think is best you dont have to listen to marv.
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On November 16 2012 07:26 marvellosity wrote:
Kickstart has 30+ posts and we are still in the first cycle.
That is not lurking.
Just because he's not activity fiends like the rest of us doesn't make him a lurker. 30+ posts in a cycle is quite adequate actually.
Well if he wants to complain about it there is only one way to fix it.
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i agree on kickstart would have taken some really quick thinking if he was scum.
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On November 16 2012 07:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
if I had a colouring book like marv, Kickstart would be the towniest colour of them all
is that your way of saying he is your top town read
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is posting allowed during the 1 hour resolution period?
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On November 16 2012 07:53 marvellosity wrote:
it is, iamp. that's the point of the period :p
so the mafia would have to have their kill in the hour before? so if i post after that period that would be good?
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On November 16 2012 07:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
That's why I've reverted to my lurking state.
oO
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On November 16 2012 07:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
fine, i like lurking, you happy now?
marvs right just post your case when its done.
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ya im gonna have to side with clarity on this one. I think the major point would be that he didnt vote hapa at the end there but i can see it being perfectly reasonable hime seeing the last min wagon as being kind of crazy. And i dont feel like he was contributing to the chaos he was being a voice of reason. Me and bh were the voices of chaos.
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