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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 17:13 GMT
#927
On November 15 2012 02:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 02:11 iamperfection wrote:
On November 15 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
I really think DP is a bad lynch. Hopeless or debears.

DP does not play uselessly as scum either.

DP was not useless as town either in gsl III


you're missing the fucking point.

DP does not play uselessly AS EITHER ALIGNMENT.

SO THAT MAKES HIM FUCKING TOWN??!!!?!?!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 17:15 GMT
#929
On November 15 2012 02:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 02:13 iamperfection wrote:
On November 15 2012 02:12 marvellosity wrote:
On November 15 2012 02:11 iamperfection wrote:
On November 15 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
I really think DP is a bad lynch. Hopeless or debears.

DP does not play uselessly as scum either.

DP was not useless as town either in gsl III


you're missing the fucking point.

DP does not play uselessly AS EITHER ALIGNMENT.

SO THAT MAKES HIM FUCKING TOWN??!!!?!?!


it makes him neither, for fuck's sake.

If he is not useless as either A or B, then when he IS useless you can't say that he's necessarily A or B.

Then i will hold him to coming back with something proper then.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 17:17 GMT
#931
ive looked i would do hopeless over debars i said it before and i don't really want to lynch debars at all.

ill be back later 9:00 est is lynch right?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 18:03 GMT
#951
From phone I had misgivings about hapa as well post when home.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 20:52 GMT
#988
On November 15 2012 05:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
Just got back and caught up. A lot happened. Iamp claimed he's staying on Darth, how about you thrawn?
Because if you plan on moving I'll have to make a decision between debears and.... Hopeless?

I don't like debears' reaction to accusations at all, very emotional with not much weight or facts behind it.
When he got accused of being scum D1 in XXX he addressed the points and moved on to scumhunt.
That said I don't think that makes him scum and the cases against him didn't convince me.
So hopeless. Well there definitely is nothing townie about him, I believe he's the better lynch candidate.

I still want my Darth lynch though, so Thrawn, whadya say?

I said the opposite regarding dp ill be back in a few more hours
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 22:12 GMT
#1029
Debars-Post your thought on every person in the game theres a good chance that your going to be lynched so no reason to not put your thoughts out there


hapa before i put a ton of effort looking through you more closely what do you make of both me and bh weighing in positively on suspicions of you? You have not had as much thread presence that you usually have in my view and you said before that debars voting you was him claiming scum which i dont really buy and i thought it was really un hapa like for day 1?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 22:39 GMT
#1034
debars if you could get back in here asap it would be greatly appreciated.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 22:47 GMT
#1037
ya i dont want to lynch hopeless. Although there is some silly association stuff that i dont personally like.

But at least he is doing what you should if your town and under large pressure near lynch time.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 22:58 GMT
#1043
ya i dont want to lynch hopeless. Although there is some silly association stuff that i dont personally like.

But at least he is doing what you should if your town and under large pressure near lynch time.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 22:58 GMT
#1044
On November 15 2012 07:48 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 15 2012 07:47 iamperfection wrote:
ya i dont want to lynch hopeless. Although there is some silly association stuff that i dont personally like.

But at least he is doing what you should if your town and under large pressure near lynch time.


Is DP still your top scumread? What makes him scummier than debears at this point? It seems you largely agree with me on him but find DP scummier instead.

dp still hasn't done anything. my vote will stay there until he does. I know he is capable of contributing. If he dosent he is scum in my book
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 23:03 GMT
#1046
that double post i just had a couple of mins ago is tl's fault
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 23:06 GMT
#1049
On November 15 2012 08:04 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote

I wanna lynch someone else. Case incoming once I get the pieces all together.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 23:06 GMT
#1050
On November 15 2012 08:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Wow, 3 hours from deadline?

thats a really long time.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 23:12 GMT
#1053
On November 15 2012 08:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ehhhh, people always think that. Then something unexpected happens and people go apeshit.
Maybe that's just my impression because of newbie games though. My last game as scum I could easily hide in last minute chaos.

you do realize that me marv and hapa are in this game right shenanigans are almost guaranteed.

Even if hapa drops rhetoric in his coaching that its bad he in fact loves it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#1056
On November 15 2012 08:15 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 07:28 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 15 2012 07:12 iamperfection wrote:
Debars-Post your thought on every person in the game theres a good chance that your going to be lynched so no reason to not put your thoughts out there


hapa before i put a ton of effort looking through you more closely what do you make of both me and bh weighing in positively on suspicions of you? You have not had as much thread presence that you usually have in my view and you said before that debars voting you was him claiming scum which i dont really buy and i thought it was really un hapa like for day 1?


You were suspicious of me? Since when? I obviously disagree with your suspicions, but I don't think you have sinister motives behind it.

Regarding BH - I have no idea what to make of it. On the one hand, I think his JK claim is completely non-sensical from a scum perspective. On the other hand, it's questionable from a town perspective as well, and if he's town, he's playing by far the worst game I've ever seen him play. His vote on me for "buddying" is just absolutely terrible. But I still just can't see him claiming JK as scum in his position. I think the JK claim makes him town, but every one of his actions makes me question it again and again.

Regarding "presence" - I am really present when I'm around my computer, so I really don't know where you're getting this from. I'm in school in the mornings/afternoons and can't post much (weekdays only). At night though (5pm to 12pm) is when I get most of my posting done in all of my games.

As for "debears claiming scum" - I'm very adamant about this. Look at his two main suspicions: an easy mislynch candidate, and his attacker (myself). Not to mention that his vote on me is a PURE OMGUS. This is the best way for scum not to give any information when they die (marv did this in GSL III, attacking me and drazak).

Also, he only got suspicious of me and Hopeless the second he came under serious suspicion and became one of the leading candidates.


Lastly, just read over my cases. His defenses are diversionary and deflectionary, which I described in detail here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937


Hapa you're so full of it.

I WAS SUSPICIOUS OF HOPELESS FROM THE BEGINNING. HOLY SHIT.I wasn't under serious suspicion. Now, you're lying

HE WAS IN NO WAY THE "EASY LYNCH" WHEN I FIRST HAD SUSPICIONS OF HIM.

And oh look. I NEVER VOTED YOU HAPA CUZ YOU AREN'T GETTING LYNCHED TODAY. Now, you're making stuff up

More lies

do what hopeless did on the last page plz.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 23:19 GMT
#1062
On November 15 2012 08:18 debears wrote:
Hey S&B

When were those posts? Early D1 if I recall

What have you posted that's so great? You trolled in the beginning. Now you're being hypocritical in your vote

Do what i said or feel my wrath.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 23:20 GMT
#1063
On November 15 2012 08:18 marvellosity wrote:
debears is right, by the way.

Some of Hapa's pushing on him is fucking nonsense.

was that a tease?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 23:33 GMT
#1081
On November 15 2012 08:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
I WAS SUSPICIOUS OF HOPELESS FROM THE BEGINNING. HOLY SHIT.I wasn't under serious suspicion. Now, you're lying


Ok this bit is fair, however:

Show nested quote +
HE WAS IN NO WAY THE "EASY LYNCH" WHEN I FIRST HAD SUSPICIONS OF HIM.


This is complete bullshit. This coming from the guy who accused me of going after "easy" targets in iamperfection and you.

Show nested quote +
And oh look. I NEVER VOTED YOU HAPA CUZ YOU AREN'T GETTING LYNCHED TODAY. Now, you're making stuff up

More lies


The voting is a big deal because I still don't see how the hell you arrived at Hopeless being your top scumread. Hell you started all this "OMG OMG HOPELESS SCUM" thing the second I called you out for not pushing him and pushing iamperfection instead.

Maybe at some point you'll actually respond to this instead of spouting your "bad assumption" nonsense about your "suspicion" on Hopeless:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

Hell you're entire read on me is OMGUS and that I'm somehow not following my principles. This is retarded and I can't imagine you'd ever come up with this shit as town. By all means show me how I'm not - the "overkill" read I've mentioned in some of my other town games as well.

im not an easy lynch as town by the way its never happened.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 23:36 GMT
#1086
On November 15 2012 08:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 08:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Hell you're entire read on me is OMGUS and that I'm somehow not following my principles. This is retarded and I can't imagine you'd ever come up with this shit as town. By all means show me how I'm not - the "overkill" read I've mentioned in some of my other town games as well.


I'm not sure how debears questionable posting and his bombastic aggression towards you is indicative of him being scum. If I were trying to advise debears, a relatively (though not super) new player on who to attack, I'd not suggest you, and I'd certainly not say to do so the way he's done. His aggression against you isn't particularly townie but I don't get why you get scum vibes from it.


Because it's completely illogical and in pure OMGUS. He started it the SECOND his lynch started gaining traction. Way too convenient.

Well usually your pretty good at putting yourself in other peoples shoes hapa. If i was in his shoes and town and someone that coached me said i was scum i would be pretty suspicious of him.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 14 2012 23:37 GMT
#1092
in fact i think i actually had that situation happen to me in rockband that sob bh accused me of being scum. The nerve he showed.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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