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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
August 10 2012 21:28 GMT
#734
On August 11 2012 06:23 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 06:22 Promethelax wrote:
On August 11 2012 06:21 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 11 2012 06:19 Hapahauli wrote:
I have no clue. Presumably we're going to get an answer from Dandel in the near future.

Once I get an answer on this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=36#706
I was pretty positive on a mkfuba/Sideni scumteam. This made me think it's not.


So his backing off a guy who, if I'm reading this right, you think is scum makes him town? I think I need my face brick.

Will you ever say anything useful or are you just here for decoration?


Do you seriously think you are useful to town? I'm not going to pretend I'm the best player around but you are vying for worst. Go fucking read my filter and read yours, tell me who is here for decoration?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
August 10 2012 21:35 GMT
#737
On August 11 2012 06:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Stop fighting guys - we're trying to get scum lynched here, not bicker amongst ourselves.


Sorry, he just pisses me right off.

Alright guys, I'm off to work. I'll see you all on the flip side. (haha see what I did there)
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
August 11 2012 17:31 GMT
#894
Just woke up. Catching up. Thoughts soon. Watching IPL TAC as well so it'll take a few minutes.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
August 11 2012 17:59 GMT
#899
Well I'm shocked that lynched worked out for us, well done. I would not have joined in that late vote switch, it just seemed too crazy on too little evidence.

Well done! We're down one mafia at no real loss to us (sorry Axero).

I don't think we have any confirmed townies from this. Scum d1 bus and look at yourselves, everyone has all these 'confirmed' town reads and if there is even one scum in that group (which lets play the numbers game, there almost 100% is) this was an excellent pay by scum. Instead of a mislynch they sacrificed one of their own (probably the least active) and got mad town cred.

The guy who stands out to me as having the most to gain from this is, hold on to your hats, Hapa think about this. Hapa has been very active but not provided a lot of analysis, he gives us 'gut feelings' about who scum are. His gut feeling has been 'proven' right once. Now he is confirmed townie in the eyes of most of town. I don't see it to be honest, his posting has been similar to his scum play in XXI and his gut feeling throw me off totally. Hapa is my biggest scum read at the moment.

I would put the second scum between Dandel and Shady: Dandel says that he can't comment on his feelings on me
On August 11 2012 07:28 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On August 11 2012 07:22 Hapahauli wrote:
We have a couple of people here, me, Dandel Ion, lvdr, and Sideni confrimed. ShadySands and Kronen have posted recently. Between us 6, we can swing a lynch in a better direction.

Possible Lynch Tarets

GoodKarma - hasn't stuck his neck out, has played semi-lurky, and has tunneled suspicion on Axero and Sideni. It's his lack of involvement in this game that I find strange. Townies are naturally suspicious of several people and constantly switch suspicions (unless emotional). GoodKarma has played suspiciously "clean," and I think he could be mafia tunneling suspicion on two easy targets.

Axero - his "ragequit" gives me a slight townie read, but I find his other behavior suspicious. I've made my views clear.

Promethelax - Comes in, points a lot of fingers, picks a fight with Dandel Ion, then leaves. Call it a gut feeling, but I find his behavior strange.

I don't think i can comment on Promethelax, I'm rather angry at him after all. I certainly wouldn't miss him, but a mislynch is a mislynch, and I don't feel like I can gauge if he's scum or not.[/b[ I'd be happy to bus him though.

Axero was never that strong a scum read to me - though you can never be sure. I have stated previously that I think you are biased against him, Hapa.
I'd rather lynch him, than have a no-lynch, but he's not my priority.

Goodkarma would be your "safe" pick for a lynch. He didn't post anything scummy in itself, but then again, he didn't post in the first place.
Might be our best chance


until he is asked about it, when I am his biggest scum read. I hadn't psoted at all between these two posts. So what changed? I'd say that Dandel realized that there was some town sentiment against me and it was safe to make his move.



Promethelax
My #1 scum read at the moment.

[spoiler]Some meta to start it off: In game 0.5 he opened the game by posting this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=10#190
My highlight out of there is:
My strengths in mafia games are my ability to build strong cases and to post in an active and pro-town manner.
He has not done any of that this game. Spoilered because it's not really an argument[/spoiler]

On to the real case:
1) He accused me on being scum on my SECOND post in the thread. on the basis of "lurking" not fitting my "meta". Nevermind the fact that day/night posts are at 1 AM for me. 75% of my "lurking" time, I've just been sleeping. Whatever, he might just be PMS'ing. I conceded that I didn't post shit yet [spoiler](as an european I'm pretty used to NA people forgetting about timezones and shit)[/spoiler] and thought he'd let it rest. NOPE
next: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=25#498 Roundhouse kicking a few people. Wouldn't be too bad, but what stands out is that while berateing people for not commenting on what happened so far, he didn't actually comment on any of that either - he just picks 4-5 people and casts general suspicion everywhere. Asks iamperfection why he's so free with his FoS, when the first thing he did himself is FoS'ing YourHarry and lvdr IN HIS FIRST POST, without any good reason.

Some posts questioning and passively accusing people inbetween.

Then he finally takes it on his shoulders to try and contribute: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874&currentpage=32#624
What stands out first is how long the post is. What stands out right after that is how he says NOTHING with it. He casts general suspicion everywhere he can (I'm seeing a pattern).
In just this one post calls scummy: Sideni (good-as-confirmed town), Axero (flipped town), me (am town), lvdr (strong town read) iamperfection (decent town read) and YourHarry (town-ish, as I stated above)
All his reads are weak as hell, even back then, and outright silly now. I personally interpret his Sideni vote as trying to get the mislynch train rolling

He then has a shitton of oneliners/no-content posts. Whenever possible, he also tries his best to insult me, which is kinda weird, for scum to openly antagonize people, but whatever.

Doesn't even try to think about the Sideni situation, leaving his vote on him. By that time even I, one of the biggest pushers for a Sideni lynch, didn't think Sideni was scum anymore. He even insults me (nothing new in itself) for jumping off the Sideni train in time.


I see no town motivations ANYWHERE in Promethelax' play.
Verdict: SCUM




Those are my thoughts on people as it stands right now, tell me if i missed anything/if you don't follow my logic anywhere.


Shady because of his whole play:
The most damning thing though is that he comes into the thread during the GK lynch and tries to deflect the suspicion onto lvdr. Shady says:
[B]On August 11 2012 07:41 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 07:36 Hapahauli wrote:
LET's ALL VOTESWITCH TO GOODKARMA

Sideni and Lvdr are BAAAD townies! GoodKarma has not stuck his neck out, has tunneled suspicion on Axero and Sideni (easy targets), he hasn't made an original case or provided original analysis, and his play has been waaaaay too clean so far - Day 1 has been INSANE, there's no way people should be this clean!


Wait you guys are doing a last minute pile on GoodKarma because his play is too clean? What?

at a time when having a single person not vote for GK would have lead to a mislynch. I would have been convinced not to vote for GK with that, in fact I don't think I would have voted him at all but I think this was a play to get anyone off of the wagon.

So for now: Scum reads are Hapa, Dandel and Shady

Town reads are: suck it scum, you won't get extra information out of me
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
August 11 2012 23:03 GMT
#928
After everyone FoSing or voting me I assume I'll live through the night. Thanks I guess.

I'll save mkfuba for the day cycle, we'll see how it goes.

I think YH is null, I honestly can't read him at all.

Kronen is somewhat townie to me. His posting has been pretty pro-town doing all the leg work even if he doesn't know how to do the analysis.

Shady I still think is scummy with Hapa and Dandel.

On August 12 2012 03:05 Hapahauli wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA oh my god you think I'm mafia. 100% desperation right there.

Also, scumslip:

Show nested quote +
Town reads are: suck it scum, you won't get extra information out of me


No town reads because you don't want to give scum information they already have?

Lastly, respond to this or I'll vote you the second D2 starts:

Show nested quote +
@ Kronen, mkfuba, YourHarry, Promethelax, and ShadySands - I want to hear your thoughts on the other 4 players before the night is over. No exceptions.

TOWN, make sure you hold each and every person on this list accountable for the above!

Are you actually retarded? I didn't want to put my town reads into the thread since mafia knows who is town but no who I think is town. Herp derp.

On August 12 2012 03:41 Lvdr wrote:
@Prome: Please answer these questions regarding Hapa busing.

1. Why was the godfather bused instead of a goon?
2. Why was the strategy to bus instead of taking out Sideni/Axero with a easily disguiseable mislynch?


I don;t think the role is as important as the player. GK was lurking if the other two mafia are active they would be better to keep around for the end game.

Look at all these 'confirmed townies' seems like a good strategy to me.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
August 12 2012 23:36 GMT
#1023
On August 12 2012 08:20 Hapahauli wrote:
So humor me Promethelax - How does me bussing GK make sense? Why would I bus the godfather who had zero suspicion on him? Also, why on earth would GK consent to getting bussed given the lack of suspicion on him.

If you can answer these questions coherently, I'll take you seriously.



Sorry I have been less active. I honestly hate the way Hapa plays and don't have fun playing with him.

I'll keep this short.

1)You would bus the GF to put yourself and your scumbuddy in a 'confirmed town role' this is ballsy play that I would not be surprised to see from you. Although I find your style abrasive and annoying I don't think you are an idiot and I do think you could make this strategy as scum.

2)Who said he would consent? If you just did it on an impulse or talked about it in the QT and he said no you could still go through with it. Obviously it isn't playing against your win-con. Or you convinced him that it would allow scum to win since the goal as scum is to get their team to win not to live to the end of the game as an individual. If an early sacrifice could get his team an easy victory I'm sure GK would be into it.

3) I am the medic. I saved Mkfuba last night, he was the guy in your 'unconfirmed townie' group I had the strongest town read on. I wanted to save the guy who seemed most likely townie and I just couldn't bring myself to save a 'confirmed townie' as you would have no reason to kill one of them while they were all sheeping you.
Bread crumb of the save:
On August 12 2012 08:03 Promethelax wrote:
After everyone FoSing or voting me I assume I'll live through the night. Thanks I guess.

I'll save mkfuba for the day cycle, we'll see how it goes.

I think YH is null, I honestly can't read him at all.

Kronen is somewhat townie to me. His posting has been pretty pro-town doing all the leg work even if he doesn't know how to do the analysis.

Shady I still think is scummy with Hapa and Dandel.

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 03:05 Hapahauli wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA oh my god you think I'm mafia. 100% desperation right there.

Also, scumslip:

Town reads are: suck it scum, you won't get extra information out of me


No town reads because you don't want to give scum information they already have?

Lastly, respond to this or I'll vote you the second D2 starts:

@ Kronen, mkfuba, YourHarry, Promethelax, and ShadySands - I want to hear your thoughts on the other 4 players before the night is over. No exceptions.

TOWN, make sure you hold each and every person on this list accountable for the above!

Are you actually retarded? I didn't want to put my town reads into the thread since mafia knows who is town but no who I think is town. Herp derp.

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 03:41 Lvdr wrote:
@Prome: Please answer these questions regarding Hapa busing.

1. Why was the godfather bused instead of a goon?
2. Why was the strategy to bus instead of taking out Sideni/Axero with a easily disguiseable mislynch?


I don;t think the role is as important as the player. GK was lurking if the other two mafia are active they would be better to keep around for the end game.

Look at all these 'confirmed townies' seems like a good strategy to me.


TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
August 13 2012 16:37 GMT
#1064
##Vote: Hapa

Just for you my perfect friend:+ Show Spoiler +

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