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On July 14 2012 05:49 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 05:47 Risen wrote:Hey marv wanna see something funny? On July 14 2012 05:21 marvellosity wrote:I'm not sure I can get behind a Vivax lynch. His scum filter from Newbie XVI is here where he lurked and summarised stuff. Here he is active and pushing stuff, even if he's doing it badly. On July 13 2012 03:32 marvellosity wrote:
i.e. all the talk about meta is a way of contributing without actually contributing Now you're reaching. He said talking about meta is a way of contributing without contributing, not that using meta in arguments is useless.
I know I'm reaching, but I'm having a really, REALLY hard time believing that marv actually thinks he can use meta on someone who hasn't played that many games. Marv is better than that. I think townies with more experience will agree with me. Where is everyone? Lynch is soon...
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EBWOP: And NOW I'm reaching? So everything before is ok, but NOW I'm reaching. If I've only just started reaching what do you think of my case Keirathi?
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On July 14 2012 03:30 Mattchew wrote:
Imma read into risen now
This was 2 hours 20 minutes ago. Is matt sitting there laughing watching us?
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On July 14 2012 05:51 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: And NOW I'm reaching? So everything before is ok, but NOW I'm reaching. If I've only just started reaching what do you think of my case Keirathi?
I already said what I thought of your case.
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EBWOP:
On July 14 2012 05:32 Keirathi wrote:
I'll agree with you that your case on Vivax has some merit, but I feel like Vivax is playing like the crazy Vivax I've played with before as a townie. Not that that is proof, but its reason enough for me not to vote him today.
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I'm serious, where did Matt disappear to?
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On July 14 2012 05:32 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 05:25 Risen wrote:On July 14 2012 05:22 Keirathi wrote:On July 14 2012 05:16 Risen wrote:
Keirathi please update your thoughts on me regarding the case I have just posted......... I will if you will respond to what I said about you, particularly the part involving austin. What about it? I thought he was being scummy b/c who makes a case that big and concludes towny? After logical thinking on my part, this isn't a reason to vote for him. As I said when I originally posted I would be voting for him I was driving and mainly just skimming the thread on my phone. I also like how in order for you to actually do your job as a towny I have to respond to you. Really? You asked me to update my thoughts on you. How you responded to the most important section of my post has more bearing on my thoughts towards you than your case on Vivax does. I'll agree with you that your case on Vivax has some merit, but I feel like Vivax is playing like the crazy Vivax I've played with before as a townie. Not that that is proof, but its reason enough for me not to vote him today.
That's your response. That's your reasoning. My case has merit, but whatever I'm still not voting for him b/c of meta. Got it.
So.... viv/marv/keirathi scum team?
And where did viv go? Did his team tell him to shut up and stop hanging himself? Literally go through his filter and look at his recent posts leading up to my case and after it. Screw just the thoughts on my case, what do you think of his recent posting?
What does everyone else think of the defense of viv by austin/marv/keir? How you could defend him after his recent spate of posting is beyond me.
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On July 14 2012 05:15 Keirathi wrote:I'm leaning towards a vote on either Risen or DropBear. Risen+ Show Spoiler +On July 12 2012 15:22 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 15:18 DropBear wrote:This is silly. On July 12 2012 08:50 talismania wrote:
pardon me for some half-assed musing:
since we've got majority lynch to deal with, what about some sort of nomination system? I don't like how majority allows townies and scum alike to save their opinions on people, especially day one and just hop on whatever bandwagon is happening near the end of the day. It would be nice if, say, 24 hours in everyone puts up a list of three players they want to see in consideration for the lynch and reasons why. Then all that gets tallied up or something and we decide between the popular choices. Actually you wouldn't even need to tally or enforce that. Just having everyone put up three names with reasons should be good enough to move discussion towards a consensus lynch candidate or two (hush s&b yes I am and always will try to get people to post their impressions of others). This isn't going to happen and would just waste time.
On the majority lynch, day 1 this tends to be a right kerfuffle. I can't think of any system that has ever worked on day 1 in games I have been part of. So fuck a system, we deal with it when the time comes. There should be solid candidates by then anyway. For example: this could be DropBear bussing/giving his teammate a way to backtrack on his plan or it could be scum calling out a townie. I'm not saying I even have a scumread on drop as he seems to want a pro-town environment, which is something I'm all for, but this is something that could be used to confirm a connection in my mind at a later point in time. On July 12 2012 15:22 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: He could also just be a townie doing pro-town things. This is the most likely option. He's being extremely non-commital. Unlike Vivax, I'm not going to make a case that this was a scumslip, but it doesn't make much sense and doesn't really say what he thinks about the situation. Then: + Show Spoiler +On July 12 2012 16:38 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 16:29 Vivax wrote:
There's no link to a voting thread in the OP methinks.Add pls?
##Vote active lurk strongandbig Yes, this is going places. I like your thinking. I just like your style, my dude. You have my vote! ##vote: Vivax This vote could be forgiven if I had a read on him as townie, since it was a bit out of the blue for Vivax to vote S&B, but he hasn't done anything to push pro-town sentiment yet, so this is a suspiciously easy case to jump on and get a bandwagon. + Show Spoiler +On July 14 2012 04:06 Risen wrote:
Reading through I'm thinking vivax/keirathi/s0Lstice(or gonzaw) team. I'm not as confident on s0Lstice, though. I think he's actually reading me based on my meta, which is fine day1 since there isn't much else to go off of. Keirathi's soft defense of my strongest scum read makes me really weary of him. Vivax, of course, is my strongest scum read and I'm having a pretty difficult time believing that a town gonzaw would defend him.
Looks like my vote will be staying on Vivax. I really thought austin's case on me that concluded with a town read was just scummy b/c seriously who goes into that much detail just to end up buddying me? (Goes to the whole, he knows I'm town and therefor just found some stuff in my past games to support his "town-read" case)
I'll be gathering everything on Vivax into a single post, but I really don't think we should be lynching anyone else. So I'm confused. You make a read that the scumteam is Vivax, me, and solstice, but you go on to make a case against austin? So do you think austin's town read on your is scummy or not? You certainly make it sound like you think it is, but he isn't in your scumteam. I don't get it. DropBearI still think his vote on Vivax was suspicious, but that's been talked to death, so I'll continue. Along with tali, I feel like he was been entirely overaggressive and disruptive with thinks like + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2012 02:58 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 02:20 talismania wrote:On July 13 2012 02:00 DropBear wrote:
##Vote Vivax the hell? any reasons beyond what marv said? I called him out as being suss last page, do you read boy? , but he refuted that with some meta argument, so I'll give him the BotD for that just being the way he plays. However, with Risen being my strongest read right now, this really bothers me: Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 02:40 DropBear wrote:
I do not support a Risen lynch. He stated that he is busy and I liked some of his earlier stuff once he got past filler about smilies.
Maybe a scum wouldn't just outright defend a teamate like that on day1, but its such a flimsy reason that it feels like he could get away with it later if they are both scum. Last point: he really hasn't made much of a case on Vivax despite voting him and continuing to vote him. His only posts that even mention Vivax at all: + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2012 01:39 DropBear wrote:Vivax I am very confused as the reasoning behind your voting so far. Why did you choose strongandbig initially? Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 18:30 Vivax wrote:
@ NSH
It's cause of a habit. I just tend to expect links in underlined words <_<.
Back to the topic:
##unvote strongandbig
Very informative post about marv there.
Wanted to vote Milton next but he posted.
He tries to make himself pretty transparent by posting his games. It's a good sign, but nothing decisive.
Speaking of meta, sciberbia doesn't look good based on that.I was with him in two games and I feel like he's being different in this one.
s0lstice already pointed out the missing fast posts we're used to see from scib at the start of the game.
That alone is forgivable given the posted reasons. But the overall gut feeling is still bad cause of the overall style. What do you mean by an informative post? Cos he made a case he must be town or something? What are the differences in sciberbia you talk about? On July 13 2012 02:00 DropBear wrote:
##Vote Vivax On July 13 2012 02:58 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 02:20 talismania wrote:On July 13 2012 02:00 DropBear wrote:
##Vote Vivax the hell? any reasons beyond what marv said? I called him out as being suss last page, do you read boy? On July 13 2012 17:01 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 09:07 Vivax wrote:I'm not comfortable with a tali lynch. Comparing filters I found Miltonkrams filter to be fairly empty and he targetted the easy target. He posted 1. A list of his games to make himself available for a metacheck. 2. He comments on Talis plan being bad, and that being reason enough to be scummy. My impression of talis plan gone bad so far: It's a magnet for players with no/bad cases to have a reason to post something accusing. The downside is that it might have triggered policy discussion and a lot of chaos, while promising a lot of clarity by forcing players to take a hard stance, so talis plan was risky from a town perspective, and I'd leave it at that. He said it worked in bastard mafia, let's leave it at that: It won't be used here. 3. On July 13 2012 06:35 Miltonkram wrote:
I don't find the fact that he came up with the plan scummy, I find the amount of time he's spent defending himself from the fallout of his plan scummy. I think he's spent 3 or 4 posts just defending himself.
Defending oneself isn't scummy. If it's really the only thing you do, then yes, but Milton already knows that it's not the only thing tali is doing: On July 13 2012 06:48 Miltonkram wrote:
EBWOP: I didn't notice that talismania was actually putting a fair amount of pressure on austinmcc. I still find the amount of time he's spent talking about his proposal scummy, but he has put a small amount of pressure on players. still seems to firmly believe in a scum tali. He doesn't have any other reads. He comments on Keirathi and sciberbia being unreadable to him. I'll go for Milton if I don't see some arguments to his defense. I'll defend Milton for you  He started late so hasn't posted as much. We knew that was happening before the games started. Your point 1 directly helps people get a read on him. This is extremely positive town play. In your point 2, you say how the plan allows pointless posting and how that doesn't help town, but then turn around and lambast Milton for pointing this out. Contradiction much? There is no real pressure from talismania on austin at all. Milton is right, talismania IS only defending the plan and not committing to accusations. Three reads is enough for day 1, no? Posting your read on every single person is just clutter. You should be less obvious in defending your buddy. SCUM TEAM
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talismania On July 14 2012 02:40 DropBear wrote:
HOST YOU MISSED MY VOTE FOR VIVAX
I am not going to be here for lynch time, it's 4am my time.
I am voting for Vivax still. I would like to see the lynch between him and talismania.
I do not support a Milton lynch. I have already said this.
I do not support a Risen lynch. He stated that he is busy and I liked some of his earlier stuff once he got past filler about smilies.
On July 14 2012 02:55 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 02:43 austinmcc wrote:On July 14 2012 02:40 DropBear wrote:
I do not support a Risen lynch. He stated that he is busy and I liked some of his earlier stuff once he got past filler about smilies.
Specifics please This aimed at gonzaw. Made perfect sense, the thread was barely 4 pages old and gonzaw was saying people were lurking. Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 09:49 Risen wrote:
Any particular reason you're trying to push something on people with a low post count in thread so early? Didn't even know lurking was possible at this point. So you're either an extremely eager townie or scum looking for easy targets to push early. This because Vivax is scum. Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 16:38 Risen wrote:On July 12 2012 16:29 Vivax wrote:
There's no link to a voting thread in the OP methinks.Add pls?
##Vote active lurk strongandbig Yes, this is going places. I like your thinking. I just like your style, my dude. You have my vote! ##vote: Vivax There's not a case in there, just a lot of saying Vivax is scum without any reasoning to back it up. Pre-post edit: @austin - regarding Vivax, his early play being in the spotlight, plus him being Crazy(TM) as town (in Newbie XVIII he fake claimed DT as town, and even though he was right, cost us a lot of timer arguing and would have lost us the game if he was wrong), I just feel like for now that he's reasonably townie.
On July 14 2012 05:34 marvellosity wrote:
already commented on Vivax, see above
I said earlier I didn't want to lynch Dropbear, now I'm not so sure. He's pushing Vivax on the basis of practically nothing, and he came out strongly defending Milton - I believe others thought scum wouldn't do this - only because he was having an argument with his scumread Vivax
He also says Keirathi is a strong townread with no explanation.
What have we got to hold Dropbear accountable for so far??
Can you guys just vote DropBear? We need to get some momentum together to avoid the nolynch.
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On July 14 2012 05:56 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 05:15 Keirathi wrote:I'm leaning towards a vote on either Risen or DropBear. Risen+ Show Spoiler +On July 12 2012 15:22 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 15:18 DropBear wrote:This is silly. On July 12 2012 08:50 talismania wrote:
pardon me for some half-assed musing:
since we've got majority lynch to deal with, what about some sort of nomination system? I don't like how majority allows townies and scum alike to save their opinions on people, especially day one and just hop on whatever bandwagon is happening near the end of the day. It would be nice if, say, 24 hours in everyone puts up a list of three players they want to see in consideration for the lynch and reasons why. Then all that gets tallied up or something and we decide between the popular choices. Actually you wouldn't even need to tally or enforce that. Just having everyone put up three names with reasons should be good enough to move discussion towards a consensus lynch candidate or two (hush s&b yes I am and always will try to get people to post their impressions of others). This isn't going to happen and would just waste time.
On the majority lynch, day 1 this tends to be a right kerfuffle. I can't think of any system that has ever worked on day 1 in games I have been part of. So fuck a system, we deal with it when the time comes. There should be solid candidates by then anyway. For example: this could be DropBear bussing/giving his teammate a way to backtrack on his plan or it could be scum calling out a townie. I'm not saying I even have a scumread on drop as he seems to want a pro-town environment, which is something I'm all for, but this is something that could be used to confirm a connection in my mind at a later point in time. On July 12 2012 15:22 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: He could also just be a townie doing pro-town things. This is the most likely option. He's being extremely non-commital. Unlike Vivax, I'm not going to make a case that this was a scumslip, but it doesn't make much sense and doesn't really say what he thinks about the situation. Then: + Show Spoiler +On July 12 2012 16:38 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 16:29 Vivax wrote:
There's no link to a voting thread in the OP methinks.Add pls?
##Vote active lurk strongandbig Yes, this is going places. I like your thinking. I just like your style, my dude. You have my vote! ##vote: Vivax This vote could be forgiven if I had a read on him as townie, since it was a bit out of the blue for Vivax to vote S&B, but he hasn't done anything to push pro-town sentiment yet, so this is a suspiciously easy case to jump on and get a bandwagon. + Show Spoiler +On July 14 2012 04:06 Risen wrote:
Reading through I'm thinking vivax/keirathi/s0Lstice(or gonzaw) team. I'm not as confident on s0Lstice, though. I think he's actually reading me based on my meta, which is fine day1 since there isn't much else to go off of. Keirathi's soft defense of my strongest scum read makes me really weary of him. Vivax, of course, is my strongest scum read and I'm having a pretty difficult time believing that a town gonzaw would defend him.
Looks like my vote will be staying on Vivax. I really thought austin's case on me that concluded with a town read was just scummy b/c seriously who goes into that much detail just to end up buddying me? (Goes to the whole, he knows I'm town and therefor just found some stuff in my past games to support his "town-read" case)
I'll be gathering everything on Vivax into a single post, but I really don't think we should be lynching anyone else. So I'm confused. You make a read that the scumteam is Vivax, me, and solstice, but you go on to make a case against austin? So do you think austin's town read on your is scummy or not? You certainly make it sound like you think it is, but he isn't in your scumteam. I don't get it. DropBearI still think his vote on Vivax was suspicious, but that's been talked to death, so I'll continue. Along with tali, I feel like he was been entirely overaggressive and disruptive with thinks like + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2012 02:58 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 02:20 talismania wrote:On July 13 2012 02:00 DropBear wrote:
##Vote Vivax the hell? any reasons beyond what marv said? I called him out as being suss last page, do you read boy? , but he refuted that with some meta argument, so I'll give him the BotD for that just being the way he plays. However, with Risen being my strongest read right now, this really bothers me: On July 14 2012 02:40 DropBear wrote:
I do not support a Risen lynch. He stated that he is busy and I liked some of his earlier stuff once he got past filler about smilies.
Maybe a scum wouldn't just outright defend a teamate like that on day1, but its such a flimsy reason that it feels like he could get away with it later if they are both scum. Last point: he really hasn't made much of a case on Vivax despite voting him and continuing to vote him. His only posts that even mention Vivax at all: + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2012 01:39 DropBear wrote:Vivax I am very confused as the reasoning behind your voting so far. Why did you choose strongandbig initially? Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 18:30 Vivax wrote:
@ NSH
It's cause of a habit. I just tend to expect links in underlined words <_<.
Back to the topic:
##unvote strongandbig
Very informative post about marv there.
Wanted to vote Milton next but he posted.
He tries to make himself pretty transparent by posting his games. It's a good sign, but nothing decisive.
Speaking of meta, sciberbia doesn't look good based on that.I was with him in two games and I feel like he's being different in this one.
s0lstice already pointed out the missing fast posts we're used to see from scib at the start of the game.
That alone is forgivable given the posted reasons. But the overall gut feeling is still bad cause of the overall style. What do you mean by an informative post? Cos he made a case he must be town or something? What are the differences in sciberbia you talk about? On July 13 2012 02:00 DropBear wrote:
##Vote Vivax On July 13 2012 02:58 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 02:20 talismania wrote:On July 13 2012 02:00 DropBear wrote:
##Vote Vivax the hell? any reasons beyond what marv said? I called him out as being suss last page, do you read boy? On July 13 2012 17:01 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 09:07 Vivax wrote:I'm not comfortable with a tali lynch. Comparing filters I found Miltonkrams filter to be fairly empty and he targetted the easy target. He posted 1. A list of his games to make himself available for a metacheck. 2. He comments on Talis plan being bad, and that being reason enough to be scummy. My impression of talis plan gone bad so far: It's a magnet for players with no/bad cases to have a reason to post something accusing. The downside is that it might have triggered policy discussion and a lot of chaos, while promising a lot of clarity by forcing players to take a hard stance, so talis plan was risky from a town perspective, and I'd leave it at that. He said it worked in bastard mafia, let's leave it at that: It won't be used here. 3. On July 13 2012 06:35 Miltonkram wrote:
I don't find the fact that he came up with the plan scummy, I find the amount of time he's spent defending himself from the fallout of his plan scummy. I think he's spent 3 or 4 posts just defending himself.
Defending oneself isn't scummy. If it's really the only thing you do, then yes, but Milton already knows that it's not the only thing tali is doing: On July 13 2012 06:48 Miltonkram wrote:
EBWOP: I didn't notice that talismania was actually putting a fair amount of pressure on austinmcc. I still find the amount of time he's spent talking about his proposal scummy, but he has put a small amount of pressure on players. still seems to firmly believe in a scum tali. He doesn't have any other reads. He comments on Keirathi and sciberbia being unreadable to him. I'll go for Milton if I don't see some arguments to his defense. I'll defend Milton for you He started late so hasn't posted as much. We knew that was happening before the games started. Your point 1 directly helps people get a read on him. This is extremely positive town play. In your point 2, you say how the plan allows pointless posting and how that doesn't help town, but then turn around and lambast Milton for pointing this out. Contradiction much? There is no real pressure from talismania on austin at all. Milton is right, talismania IS only defending the plan and not committing to accusations. Three reads is enough for day 1, no? Posting your read on every single person is just clutter. You should be less obvious in defending your buddy. SCUM TEAM
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talismania On July 14 2012 02:40 DropBear wrote:
HOST YOU MISSED MY VOTE FOR VIVAX
I am not going to be here for lynch time, it's 4am my time.
I am voting for Vivax still. I would like to see the lynch between him and talismania.
I do not support a Milton lynch. I have already said this.
I do not support a Risen lynch. He stated that he is busy and I liked some of his earlier stuff once he got past filler about smilies.
On July 14 2012 02:55 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 02:43 austinmcc wrote:On July 14 2012 02:40 DropBear wrote:
I do not support a Risen lynch. He stated that he is busy and I liked some of his earlier stuff once he got past filler about smilies.
Specifics please This aimed at gonzaw. Made perfect sense, the thread was barely 4 pages old and gonzaw was saying people were lurking. Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 09:49 Risen wrote:
Any particular reason you're trying to push something on people with a low post count in thread so early? Didn't even know lurking was possible at this point. So you're either an extremely eager townie or scum looking for easy targets to push early. This because Vivax is scum. Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 16:38 Risen wrote:On July 12 2012 16:29 Vivax wrote:
There's no link to a voting thread in the OP methinks.Add pls?
##Vote active lurk strongandbig Yes, this is going places. I like your thinking. I just like your style, my dude. You have my vote! ##vote: Vivax There's not a case in there, just a lot of saying Vivax is scum without any reasoning to back it up. Pre-post edit: @austin - regarding Vivax, his early play being in the spotlight, plus him being Crazy(TM) as town (in Newbie XVIII he fake claimed DT as town, and even though he was right, cost us a lot of timer arguing and would have lost us the game if he was wrong), I just feel like for now that he's reasonably townie. Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 05:34 marvellosity wrote:
already commented on Vivax, see above
I said earlier I didn't want to lynch Dropbear, now I'm not so sure. He's pushing Vivax on the basis of practically nothing, and he came out strongly defending Milton - I believe others thought scum wouldn't do this - only because he was having an argument with his scumread Vivax
He also says Keirathi is a strong townread with no explanation.
What have we got to hold Dropbear accountable for so far?? Can you guys just vote DropBear? We need to get some momentum together to avoid the nolynch.
No response to anything actually going on in the thread right now?
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The case against risen isn't a connection case, and there's not that much logic involved in recognizing the non-committing posting behavior he had before the whole thing against him started rolling, and he started spamming hysterically.
You may not appreciate the third point I made against him, the what-i-call-scumslip, let's just call inconsistency now, but his behavior before that was already showing that he wants to avoid conflicts with other townies, by discrediting gonzaws posts and then trying to appease him, avoiding any stance on a player.
Now that there's a case against him, he goes crazy and suddenly has a list of suspects, in which he only made cases against one of them, the one who is accusing him.
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@risen I don't know what to make of the risen v vivax to be honest. I liked your case against him but I'm still stuck on dropbear. and if dropbear is scum I can't see vivax being scum either. mmm I better not be tunneling again like I did last time to HiroPro.
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On July 14 2012 05:29 marvellosity wrote:Holy shit austin's case on talismania was awful. A fucking enormous post where he votes http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/smilies.phptalis on the basis that... his supposed 2 part plan was bad? Look at the size of the post to content ratio there. He unvotes talis here - with the comment "as long as there's activity I'm fine hopping off you". Sooooo much talking about why he found the plan bad (surely that's why he was pushing) to unvote based on the fact he's active about stuff? The only problem here is that I'm finding it hard to make myself feel strongly about this
I'm kinda coming back to an austin lynch at the moment because of this. So much stuff in his filter that was either out of place or unnecessary.
On July 13 2012 02:03 austinmcc wrote:
Marv do you think Vivax is scum or just being Vivax?
Just re-found this. What kind of question is this? What was he expecting to achieve with this? What are the options for my answer... "yeah, I'm voting Vivax at the moment for being Vivax". It makes no sense. It's like an attempt at trapping but it's so fake because it's so transparent. His defence of s0lstice after my case also felt off to me.
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##Vote: austinmcc
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er... is austin even a possibility at this stage?
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On July 14 2012 05:57 Vivax wrote:
The case against risen isn't a connection case, and there's not that much logic involved in recognizing the non-committing posting behavior he had before the whole thing against him started rolling, and he started spamming hysterically.
You may not appreciate the third point I made against him, the what-i-call-scumslip, let's just call inconsistency now, but his behavior before that was already showing that he wants to avoid conflicts with other townies, by discrediting gonzaws posts and then trying to appease him, avoiding any stance on a player.
Now that there's a case against him, he goes crazy and suddenly has a list of suspects, in which he only made cases against one of them, the one who is accusing him.
You didn't make a case against me. You said he's lurking and he's being noncommittal (and you threw in some weird scumslip definition)
There are a total of two votes on me. Stop trying to make people think I suddenly delurked when you posted your case. That's clearly not what happened.
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On July 14 2012 06:00 talismania wrote:
@risen I don't know what to make of the risen v vivax to be honest. I liked your case against him but I'm still stuck on dropbear. and if dropbear is scum I can't see vivax being scum either. mmm I better not be tunneling again like I did last time to HiroPro.
You're tunneling. I'm telling you you're tunneling. Just look at viv's recent posting. I'm serious. It is that bad, but no one in this thread seems to be giving it any credit beyond "oh he's playing to his crazy town meta"
I'm tunneling too, though. I honestly think my case is stronger than yours tali. Do you feel your case on drop is stronger than my case on viv?
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[B]On July 14 2012 05:29 austinmcc wrote:
For now, my vote's going on solstice. Something really bugs me about him finding my early game to match my townie play. Yes, the length is always there, but my early posts were a mess. Gonzaw's right about that, marv is right that they look off. I wasn't pressured at all really in my newbie games, barring XIII which was just an odd game to play in. I think my response to a little pressure here was way off, because while I normally post lengthy, it's not so disorganized and jumbled. Concerned that he didn't pick up on that. That little thing keeps nagging at me enough that I'm willing to vote him.
##Vote: Solstice
Marv's post reminded me of this.
Are you actually voting for solstice because he didn't call you out for being scummy?
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yeah, so many paragraphs austin has this game and his vote at the moment is on someone for not picking up on his jumbled posts
Does not compute...
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The worst thing in that for austin in my opinion is that he plays the newbie card. I hate the newbie card. It's just a smokescreen for scum to hide behind and townies don't benefit from it by using it.
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EBWOP: That and somehow he isn't able to muster the will to vote viv when he's got a scum read on him, but a nagging feeling is enough to vote for s0L
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At the risk of repeating myself, I hate that Matt has disappeared close to lynch time when his last post was that he was going to read into the candidates.
At the moment obviously I prefer austin but I could consolidate on to Dropbear.
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EPT
