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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 01:03 GMT
#664
Although, to be fair to Vivax, if nothing else, the fakeclaim seriously forced the shit out of my hand, I hadn't planned to dump that much leading pressure on you at all.

Actually, I planned to FoS you and drop it until you started attacking me because rofls lurked. I ended up with a huge target on my back. It was just way too late.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 01:05 GMT
#666
On July 03 2012 10:03 Keirathi wrote:
reading through the mafia QT:

Show nested quote +
JingleHell wrote:
Well, bear in mind that Keirathi will instantly believe ANY half-assed roleclaim, so he probably thinks scum would actually claim red. It's the only thing I can imagine making sense.


No. No, no, no, no, no.
I mentioned in one of my posts that I didn't want to spoon feed the mafia the game. What I meant was, mafia claiming blue roles would be the easiest way to cause confusion. Since you only needed to get one person lynched to win, it would have probably been worth the risk for one or two of you to fake role claim, even though in doing so, you're painting a big sign on your back. Everyone else seemed to expect the mafia to claim VT, which is the safe thing, but you were in a position where you didn't have the be safe, you just had to get a single lynch.


That post was directly related to you actually believing Vivax's roleclaim. The fact that it actually swung so many votes ACTUALLY confused me. Somewhere in the QT, I said something about having trouble keeping it in mind that I was the scum, and not Vivax, just due to his countercase.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 01:10 GMT
#667

And just in case you didn't watch the last song I linked that I found amusingly appropriate...

Here's one dedicated to the town.

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#671
On July 03 2012 10:15 Keirathi wrote:
As an aside, is it actually possible for mafia to not kill anyone at night? I never really thought about that, because in every version I've played its not possible.


No idea, but it seemed like a good contingency plan at the time.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 01:22 GMT
#675
On July 03 2012 10:17 dNa wrote:
i can think of no reason whatsoever not to kill anyone at night... maybe to fake a medic safe... but.. that would be some deep game ..


Since Keirathi was pushing no-lynch, if it gained enough traction to do that and roleclaim, I suggested it specifically to fake a medic save and grab some townie cred for a couple of us to keep the confusion up.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 02:12 GMT
#678
When you analyze scum, please bear in mind that I actually originally didn't intend Vivax to turn into a big target, and that all-in D2 was totally NOT on the agenda, it was just making the best of a bad spot.

I just wanted to establish a thread presence to get some credit to disassociate from rofls.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 03:26 GMT
#683
On July 03 2012 12:22 Miltonkram wrote:
Thanks for the analysis Kita. I was planning on writing up a case against Bio but work ended up getting in the way and I didn't have time.

If Vivax hadn't DT claimed and just played standard VT, Bio was next on my list and I would have put more effort into hunting him. I think a Bio lynch D2 could have won us the game considering how much more information a scum lynch gives the town.


We actually thought you were DT, with a check on me. That's why you got the bullet.

Since we knew I would show green to a check, we figured that's why you were so vehemently on my side during D2's wreck.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 13:50 GMT
#706
On July 03 2012 22:47 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 22:43 marvellosity wrote:
Unfortunately trying to game the system in TL Mafia will only get you so far.

And by so far, I mean lynched


That's the part that is so baffling to me.

I've broken so many games with clever strategizing


Well, clever strategizing broke this game too. Fakeclaim secured D2, and left Esspen as the one better target than me.

So your pattern is unscathed at least, it just broke it a way you didn't want.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 13:50 GMT
#707
Although, to be fair, the fakeclaim did paint a target on me too, but all it takes is that shadow of a doubt.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 14:02 GMT
#710
On July 03 2012 22:57 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 22:50 JingleHell wrote:
On July 03 2012 22:47 Keirathi wrote:
On July 03 2012 22:43 marvellosity wrote:
Unfortunately trying to game the system in TL Mafia will only get you so far.

And by so far, I mean lynched


That's the part that is so baffling to me.

I've broken so many games with clever strategizing


Well, clever strategizing broke this game too. Fakeclaim secured D2, and left Esspen as the one better target than me.

So your pattern is unscathed at least, it just broke it a way you didn't want.


Touche, good sir.

Although, I think that was more of a case of unclever strategizing :p


That all depends on your point of view, though, the same case could be made about your gambling fetish D3. No matter if it can work, this game is all about perception and persuasion. The fakeclaim was a similar sort of gamble, and, in fact, since he had me and Bio pegged as scum, it could have won the game, had he done it right, by building a case first, rather than hoping the claim would stand on it's own.

Granted, it almost did stand on it's own, but almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 04 2012 00:18 GMT
#713
<3 kita. Got any suggestions for something I should try to improve?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 04 2012 00:26 GMT
#715
On July 04 2012 09:24 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 09:18 JingleHell wrote:
<3 kita. Got any suggestions for something I should try to improve?


Probably the biggest thing would be to interact with your scum buddies more often in the thread. I think if you were to flip at any point, bio would have come out looking pretty bad and several town players would be tough to lynch.


I'll keep it in mind. I got paranoid when the spotlight landed on me, and probably overdid the separation.

Of course, no matter what you do, it's all about the wine.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 04 2012 16:33 GMT
#725
Hit all messages, ctrl+f, put in marv's name. Presto, filtered.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 04 2012 18:25 GMT
#727
Well, it's technically less of a "button" and more of a "link", it's the blue, underlined text that says "All Messages" in between the ^ that lets you invert the messages on the page, and the links to go back a page.

Can't miss it.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 05 2012 16:08 GMT
#729
Well then, maybe it's a browser thing. I've got one.
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