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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 20:31 GMT
#633
On June 19 2012 05:30 Drazerk wrote:
wait does that mean I typed fistbump?


Hm, that's not what he said:

"Do not try to bend the spoon � that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth"
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 20:32 GMT
#634
EBWOP:

On June 19 2012 05:30 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:28 P-body wrote:
446f206e6f742074727920746f2062656e64207468652073706f6f6e20972074686174277320696d706f737369626c652e20496e73746561642c206f6e6c792074727920746f207265616c697a6520746865207472757468


Hi everyone I contain the secret to everyone's win condition. To obtain every player must type in #Fistbump in the thread



"Do not try to bend the spoon � that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth"
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 22:09 GMT
#712
On June 19 2012 07:07 talismania wrote:
I am a town dayvig.


hahaha he can't do it. So which one are you lying about talismania? The part about being town or a day vig?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 22:10 GMT
#715
Incidentally, I changed my mind. We should lynch Maju. His case is terribad.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 22:14 GMT
#725
On June 19 2012 07:12 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 07:11 Drazerk wrote:
Deconduo is town
Drazerk is town
Talismania is not town


[image loading]

##OBJECTION


Why would you do that..... If it returns a lie, we need to figure out which one is wrong.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#733
On June 19 2012 07:13 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 07:10 HiroPro wrote:
Incidentally, I changed my mind. We should lynch Maju. His case is terribad.

Now you're doing the same thing fourface did. Saying a case is terrible but not why a case is terrible.


Your case is bad because none of it points to him being scum, except "the accusations seem forced", which doesn't look like the case at all.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 22:26 GMT
#748
LOL. Mod confirmed- nontown. I like it.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 22:28 GMT
#754
You can wriggle and squirm all you want talismania, but the truth is you were confirmed as non-town from the very moment in which you refused to say what you were supposed to say.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 22:29 GMT
#759
Oh wait. The statement was "talismania is not town"................
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 22:29 GMT
#761
Bah, I'm an idiot.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 22:31 GMT
#767
Yes, yes i realize i am dumb.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 22:50 GMT
#793
On June 19 2012 07:47 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 07:39 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 07:39 Acrofales wrote:
On June 19 2012 07:32 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 07:31 strongandbig wrote:
Okay so. That came back as "false".

I think Decon is town, since he was willing to use his power if Talismania had said what he said originally.

So either: Talismania is town, Drazerk is not town, or both of those things.

Unfortunately, neither of Drazerk and Talismania is really confirmed until the other one dies.


You gotta admit I'd be insane to come forward and do that if I had read my role PM and it said scum

No. Because it would tell you your scumbuddies and Talismania would NOT be among them, therefore with that wording you would be completely safe.


That logic makes no sense

It does. If you were scum and Tali were town, you would know Tali is not on your scumteam and hence probable town. A tiny bit of looking at the thread would make that even more probable. Now lets go back to the logic:

Statements:
A = drazerk is town
B = deconduo is town
C = talismania is town

Theory:
A & B & ~C

Theory is FALSE, so we know:

~(A & B & ~C)
= ~A | ~B | C

This statement is true if any one of the following is true:
~A = Drazerk is not town
~B = Deconduo is not town
C = Talismania is town

Because you would already know C, that would make it completely safe for you.

If it's still not clear, replace "Talismania is not town" in the checked post with "Pigs can fly". Because pigs can, in fact, not fly, anything else in the post is irrelevant: it will be marked as false.

However, this is all academic, because Deconduo derped even more than I thought and we learned NOTHING from the whole ordeal.


Yea but ultimately Drazerk and decon both acted townie (I find it really hard to believe that a scum Drazerk would actually risk having a power like that used on something he said). And thus the logical assumption is that talismania is also town.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 23:02 GMT
#806
I'm fine with a KB shoot. I don't think he's town.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 00:15 GMT
#851
Nice shot
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 00:41 GMT
#861
If MajuGarzett framed player "x", would this be a false statement: "Player "x" is town"?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 00:59 GMT
#865
....... I had the right read on him initially.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 01:06 GMT
#869
On June 19 2012 10:03 EchelonTee wrote:
There was 1KP last night and it was never accounted for. If you're town, it'd probably be best to claim it so we have pertinent information; since no one claimed, I am going to currently assume that a neutral or another anti-town faction was shot.


Maju's role PM says that they have a KP starting from night 1. Pretty sure that means they weren't able to shoot anyone yesterday.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 05:41 GMT
#884
I've been thinking Nisani is third party for some time now, but he looks to have a connection with MajuGarzett. And honestly I think that I've been focusing too much on whether or not people might be survivors. He said that he didn't like my case, but he didn't say why. Maju himself calls Nisani "ok" but then all he mentioned was that there should have been more stuff in the case on xsksc... I think DropBear's post sums up the Nisani case fairly nicely.

##Vote Nisani201


And BioSC looks to have disappeared again. I suppose it's too much to ask for another day-vig, lol.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 05:55 GMT
#887
On June 19 2012 14:51 talismania wrote:
On deconduo - deconduo must be town if he's smart. If he's dumb, he could still be scum. Remember that he initially wanted me to type in

Deconduo is town
I am town
I am a dayvig

in order to confirm us both. If I had done as he asked, and he wasn't town, he would have been royally and stupidly fucked. Because I know I'm town, and I know I'm a dayvig, and if the hosts say there's a lie there, then I'm going to shoot deconduo. I have to assume that he would think that much through if he were scum, right? On an aside, lie detector seems like a random role to give to scum anyway.


Oh, that's actually a really good point. If he was scum that would have guaranteed his death. And Zephirdd confirmed that Maju's framing power doesn't affect the objection thing.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 15:57 GMT
#956
I don't think Nisani is town, Acro. He hasn't been putting any real effort into scumhunting (the case on xsksc was not good at all - literally the only thing it said was that xsksc's posts were easy to make...), he defended maju and went after dropbear with no real reasoning at all. His reasoning for allying with House Chezinu is really weird - he said that he didn't want to get in a feud with a third party, which doesn't seem like a town motivation at all. If you think that he cannot be Maju's scumbuddy because of the extra conditions he has claimed to have, then ok, I won't lynch him today. But tomorrow (day 2) you should explain what those conditions you have are and if he what he claims (we should make him claim his condition before you say yours) doesn't jibe, then we should kill him.

On June 19 2012 05:10 Nisani201 wrote:
My main understanding of the "house chezinu" mainly came from Merc Mini 2 where I played with Chezinu, and he was acting very similar to Hiro's play in this game. In that game Chezinu was a bulletproof SK and I figured that it was very likely Hiro had a lot of power. I didn't want to get stuck in some stupid feud with a third party when I could have been scumhunting. Furthermore, I didn't really see any downside to allying with the House... and no one has pointed one out; people have been saying that this kind of affiliation with it is scummy but I don't really see why that is.



Is the DropBear case really only based on the fact that he unvoted KB with weak reasoning and has never mentioned maju??? That's not convincing at all and I think his reaction to your case is genuine and townie.

And don't use that connection business when we haven't even seen KB flip......



Between xsksc and KB, I'd definitely prefer lynching KB. KB is really really defensive - just look at the way he reacted to Acrofales's post on DropBear just because he thought it implicated him. He has been talking nonsense the entire game (look back at my post on him at the end of n0 - he said joining House Chezinu was good because it would narrow down the amount of people (both scum and town) he would have to look at. He talked about allying with the HOUSE being good because then they wouldn't interfere in his affairs.... He's not town.

##Unvote Nisani201
##Vote KharadBanar

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