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On March 29 2012 01:32 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 01:25 Acrofales wrote:On March 29 2012 01:15 Mattchew wrote:
alderan wasn't hit last night so mr zentor was probably role blocked and killed. Him not announcing his shot pre-post was retarded. What happened to you stopping your lies until Curu clarified stuff? Got bored at work.. still haven't lied though Show nested quote +
Hazy on the details (veterans confirm please?), does a jailer get to know if his target is hit? If not, then trolololol scumtell.
Mods can confirm this too, jailor sees if his "jailee" is hit. Mods please come save this game/thread
Hypocrite. You and your mafia buddies are hoping that Curu comes in here and pardons me (I sent him a PM begging forgiveness). Then you get a full cycle respite, which may very well mean you win. It is currently 4-9, after a night of your kills, that could very well be 4-7 on day 4. And ANOTHER full day wasted, because that seems to be the trend atm when a lynch target is confirmed. Basically, scum win.
I almost hope I get modkilled, just so your scummy ass gets lynched.
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Oh, and for the rest of the town, I would like to remind you of what we did last cycle, lets not repeat the mistake!
On March 25 2012 14:50 wherebugsgo wrote:also this is Risen
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D'oh Bugs, your imagelink sucks!!!
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Not yet. Defense is on 2nd of May. You're all invited!
Anyway. That image can be used both ways. Your deliberate misunderstanding of that is just more evidence of your scummyness.
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Hey guys. Was a great run. Sorry for screwing up the roleclaim. See you next game and GO LANNISTERS!!!.
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Hear me roar! Great job scumteam. Next time I hope to live longer.
Once again, sorry for the copied pm in the roleclaim. It was completely unintentional.
Risen's DT claim had me raging so hard. I had convinced most people I was town after the rocky start, but then Risen suddenly came along. Luckily he kept posting non-sequiturs and got into a discussion with WBG, so we could push him as scum, while I kept insisting on my innocence. Then I knew I was pretty certainly dead in D3, so the plan was to bluefish and create chaos. That worked rather well, even if the roleclaim was a bit too realistic :/ I spent quite some time on my fake breadcrumbs and getting the pm right :p
We were not expecting Mattchew to have a blue role at all! At that point town was down their 2 most powerful roles and only Xata was under any suspicion.
Why did nobody ever seriously suspect gumshoe?
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Any tips for my mafia play? Other than that defensive openings are bad,even if they're a ploy? :/
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On April 05 2012 17:42 wherebugsgo wrote:If anyone's curious as to my thought process/what I was doing: I should mention, I didn't originally intend to troll to the level that I ultimately did. However, I noticed that reason and logic were not actually effective methods of getting my point across. There were three players I wanted to kill day 1, and they were Xatalos, GreYMisT, and gumshoe. At first I though gumshoe was the best choice but I never expressly pushed that in thread because I was afraid people would think "oh the third party wants to lynch this guy, better not lynch him" but day 1 was such a derpfest it didn't even matter. So, I made a series of serious posts after my short period of elation over being unkillable. I realized quickly that no one cared, so I stopped. I picked Oberyn day 1 as a target because I didn't actually think he would get shot nor lynched, despite sandro wanting to kill him. In fact, just BECAUSE sandro wanted to kill him, I knew he probably wouldn't die, because no one ever listens to town sandro. (I identified him as a smurf as well) + Show Spoiler [serious posts] +On March 22 2012 04:17 wherebugsgo wrote:Double fail, you mean? If you're trying to vote him, it's ##vote OriginalNameAlso Xatalos is scum. And GreYMisT. Sandroba is confirmed town. Probably PGO. On March 23 2012 03:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why are we voting Oberyn when there are better targets right now? I'd rather let Oberyn live and kill someone like DoYouHas or Xatalos. Even chaoser might ultimately be a better target. On March 23 2012 05:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
sandro I don't think layabout is a good target. His posting tone is distinctly different from his tone from Storm.
Why don't we discuss things, sandro? I've already explained to you that my best interest lies in lynching mafia. So why don't we collaborate? On March 23 2012 08:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
So, despite the fact that gumshoe found similarities between Alderan's scum game and this one, and since he thinks layabout is a "reckless townie" (reckless not often being a trait of scum), gumshoe has voted...layabout.
Good god people, do you even read your own posts? And you wonder why I troll. On March 23 2012 10:41 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 10:01 gumshoe wrote:On March 23 2012 09:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
Explain how layabout's posts are harmful? Just saying so does not make them so.
In addition, lynching someone because they're a "bigger threat" as scum is stupid unless you've got 2 confirmed scum to lynch from. And guess what, that pretty much never happens, and that probably means town has already won. Umm you cant just say somethings stupid without going into why, oh and I've already gone into how Layabout's posts are harmful, he attacks for silly reasons like"you wont believe how often people who talk abut setup are scum" and he's tunnelling someone I believe to be a vulnerable but helpful townie. Hes also only become active now that hes been accused. Thats why I suspect him. Also if you suspect two people equally, if one of them is both a bigger loss(as town) and a smaller gain(as scum) whats wrong with choosing to save that person and go after the other guy you think is scum? you lynch to lynch scum, not to lynch whoever's "more threatening.' Why? because you don't know what their alignment is.The only two people you know the alignment of are yourself and me. Of course, if you're scum youll know the alignment of 3 others...but whatever. What layabout has said isn't harmful. It's completely true that often the first person to doubt a claim (almost immediately after it occurs) is scum. Who is he tunneling? If you suspect two people equally, you're playing this game wrong. On March 23 2012 11:41 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 10:54 gumshoe wrote:On March 23 2012 10:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
not to mention layabout is a pretty good townie, so that pretty much flushes your entire argument down the toilet. I dont consider him a good townie, thats your opinion and its not automatic dogma, I prefer obeyon, thats the townie he was tunneling but has since dropped his suspicion of entirely the moment the bandwagon looks unfavourable. Also while yes the people who address setup bullshit can be scum, so can the guy who addresses the people who address setup because he too could be looking for easy points. Also he now says hes ok with lynching a) the guy who voted for him and b) two people he hasnt addressed in over a day for a reason that is the basis of a case(commenting on setup) not a case with in itself, he doesn't even hark back to why he suspects those two players. Speaking of which layabout why do you want to lynch evantrees and xatalos? A case against Xatalos would be valid as people have mentioned, but why evantrees? They haven't posted in ages, we should at least wait for them to post before we lynch them out of the blue. Where how does this guy come across to you as a good townie? judging from the quality of your posts and the fact that half the thread thought you were scum less than 5 hours into the day, I wouldn't say your opinion is worth much. And that's coming from the guy who's being ignored by everyone. I didn't foresee the layabout lynch at all (tbh I don't think anyone did) and honestly if I thought I could have anticipated the day 1 lynch I would've picked someone other than Oberyn. Day 2 was more derp, and then day 3 was even more derp, and at that point I had no vested interest in the game beyond figuring out which of the players were scum/god awful townies and would never die. I had an inkling at targetting chaoser, but figured it might be risky because someonewould pick up on thefact he was alive and then he'd get lynched. Of course, no one actually used their brains so this was, in the end, a stupid fear. Anyway I learned a bit. Not much, since I'd much rather have actually played a pro-town game to facilitate my wincondition. If the easy way out is to just incessantly troll, then of course I'd rather do that than try to be serious while my head explodes from the stupidity.
Yeah bugs, you had me worried with your few serious posts, which was why I also came down pretty hard on anybody starting to argue with you... and then you started trolling, an went afk which made me feel all safe and cozy. Because you were a rather dangerous loose cannon if people started reading your serios posts.
The layabout lynch was hilarious. I don't even think mafia had any votes at all on him?
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Thanks bugs. I thought I didn't talk much about you, except for my first speculation about your wincon, which was probably a bad idea.
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On April 05 2012 23:27 Mattchew wrote:
Also, I wanted to hatch an epic plan to tell scum team I was going to jail WBG, thus role blocking him and making him killable by way of double stack. Unfortunately the mods said that they would have to tell the scum team this wouldn't work if they asked. The only reason I claimed is because I was going to visit Mr. Zentor, and with the mod confusion I had seen beforehand, it wasn't completely out of the realm of possibility that they messed up and said I went to zentor.
that being said this game was really fun and a huge thank you to the mods for putting this together.
Except for the first day, I don't think we would've wanted to kill bugs anyway (and the first day, SLJ was a bigger target anyway). He was actually quite a help to us. I, at least, didn't believe he had any KP and thought he might've had DT powers, which I didn't much care about as he could never make a believable claim anyway after his decision to troll the crap out of Risen.
Yeah, Mattchew, your roleclaim blew my mind. I was fishing for a tracker to tell everybody I was blatantly lying (because I went to roleblock MrZentor on N2)... and for you to say I was lying because you were a vanilla townie. Instead you counterclaimed one of the most powerful town roles in a manner that left no doubt that the claim was real. Probably check with the mods first, next time  Still, you can see in scumchat that you were a target for the nightkill even before you claimed. Your thread presence and suspicion of Xatalos was worth a kill alone. Your roleclaim was worth you getting doublestacked.
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On April 06 2012 04:15 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 04:09 Jitsu wrote:
Oh, also, I saw someone recently (think it was Risk.Nuke) bring up my soft medic claim.
I was hoping to WIFOM the Mattchew hit. Arco did a good job of drawing out Mattchew as the jailer. I was only a VT. I felt that, at that time, Mattchew was doing a decent job contributing (better then in previous games then I recall) and felt that his power as a Jailer would be better then my power as a VT, obviously. I got my call out on Xatalos in time, so I didn't see a downside, as he was my strongest read.
I was hoping to force the Mafia's hand in trying to hit me, since they wouldn't be sure if I was healing Mattchew, thus wasting a shot, and killing me, again, wasting a shot. They didn't take the bait, however. Blah, I just saw that the Mafia QT was pretty well convinced I was medic. I guess my plan wasn't THAT successful.
Yeah... you convinced us to doublehit Mattchew to ensure the kill. Still saved one other townie with your ruse, so wasn't a complete loss
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On April 06 2012 04:26 Kohbee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 04:09 Jitsu wrote:
Oh, also, I saw someone recently (think it was Risk.Nuke) bring up my soft medic claim.
I was hoping to WIFOM the Mattchew hit. Arco did a good job of drawing out Mattchew as the jailer. I was only a VT. I felt that, at that time, Mattchew was doing a decent job contributing (better then in previous games then I recall) and felt that his power as a Jailer would be better then my power as a VT, obviously. I got my call out on Xatalos in time, so I didn't see a downside, as he was my strongest read.
I was hoping to force the Mafia's hand in trying to hit me, since they wouldn't be sure if I was healing Mattchew, thus wasting a shot, and killing me, again, wasting a shot. They didn't take the bait, however. scum actually fucked this up. They should have shot you and mattchew. They were guarenteed a kill and if you were bluffing maybe get 2 if mattchew doesnt jail you. At worst mattchew jailing you would roleblock so he would die, at best you get 2 kills
True... oh well, we didn't need the doublekill anyway!
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