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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
On March 27 2012 05:27 Nisani201 wrote: wait, I just remembered that votes don't matter. Jayjay decides the lynch. I think we should lynch into the color radiator. Starting with Dirk. Dirk is a terrible place to start. I doubt he's a sleeper. It doesn't make sense from a balance perspective to give the sleepers access to a mason. Town mason or scum mason? Not sure yet. Wiggles or blubb are the best two options IMO. Both have pushed crappy cases throughout the entire game, and more or less immediately dropped them when pressure was applied. @nisani: how would third party show up on the color radiator? Would they come back town or what? | ||
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Mementoss
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On March 27 2012 05:05 kitaman27 wrote: Since this town is going nowhere fast, I might as well claim. Paperscraps was my shot. (as well as palmar, willz22912 (opps), cwave, rayzor (two games in a row :D), and cc) I won't claim how my killing power works (don't bother asking), only that I really enjoy lighting people on fire ^_^ I managed to acquire this neat Color Radiator item and submitted the following players: Mr.Wiggles Kenpachi Dirk Hardpec blubbdavid 1 Town 1 Mafia 2 Sleeper Cell (assuming the item works as described) Remind me why I'm leading the voting -_- Additionally, I acquired one of the cores from the paper kill, which makes mementoss look fairly good as I don't see why a scum player would hold on to it for him. Nisani claimed that he gave the color radiator to Hassy, who for some reason I thought was alive still. Hassy's death said he died because he was discouraged. Either you or Nisani are lying. If you have the color coordinator, either Nisani was lying about who he gave it to, or you're lying and you killed Hassy as well, or one of your team mates did. Also, you should know that bread crumbing your role beforehand doesn't confirm anything about it. You played in Insane 2. I don't buy your excuses for making encrypted posts. Give us the key, so we can check them, if you want us to believe that. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
** Welcome to Aperture Mafia! You are the Aperture Science Thermal Discouragement Beam! Each night, you may target a player and deal 1/2 kp to that player. The target is not alerted of taking this damage. The 1/2 kp persists throughout the game. You may also carry out kills on behalf of aperture science in the place of using your powers( you may perform both if you are the last remaining member). Your personal kill flavor is: “Was Discouraged.” Paperscraps was shot by Kita. So it works. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 27 2012 05:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Nisani claimed that he gave the color radiator to Hassy, who for some reason I thought was alive still. Hassy's death said he died because he was discouraged. Either you or Nisani are lying. If you have the color coordinator, either Nisani was lying about who he gave it to, or you're lying and you killed Hassy as well, or one of your team mates did. Paper killed Hassy, I killed Paper. I acquired the item. I can even provide the exact wording of the description nisani submitted if necessary. On March 27 2012 05:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, you should know that bread crumbing your role beforehand doesn't confirm anything about it. You played in Insane 2. I don't buy your excuses for making encrypted posts. Give us the key, so we can check them, if you want us to believe that. Like I said, it's just a cryptogram. You just substitute the letters. After I claim, this is honestly your biggest concern? Funny how blub complains about balance and wiggles calls me a liar right after I claim. From their perspective, if they are town, I've just provided 3 anti-town players. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On March 27 2012 05:49 kitaman27 wrote: Paper killed Hassy, I killed Paper. I acquired the item. I can even provide the exact wording of the description nisani submitted if necessary. Like I said, it's just a cryptogram. You just substitute the letters. After I claim, this is honestly your biggest concern? Funny how blub complains about balance and wiggles calls me a liar right after I claim. From their perspective, if they are town, I've just provided 3 anti-town players. No, the first thing is to try to determine what your alignment is. In PYP:Interesting, GM (I think) was a list checker, and he was also the mole. After he realized he was the mole, he faked his results the next day and led the town around for 2 days when he was the last scum remaining. So, the first thing to do is to figure out what you are, because you could have easily faked a list check, and we wouldn't know it until we killed 3 people out of the list, if we think it's reasonable framers exist. From my perspective, you could have killed up to four town players yourself already, and I have no intrinsic reason to trust you. It looked like either you or Dirk were headed for the lynch, and if you're scum, there's no reason not to lie and keep yourself alive for a couple more days. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 27 2012 06:02 Mr. Wiggles wrote: From my perspective, you could have killed up to four town players yourself already, and I have no intrinsic reason to trust you. It looked like either you or Dirk were headed for the lynch, and if you're scum, there's no reason not to lie and keep yourself alive for a couple more days. From your perspective, I could be scum after shooting my scum buddy Paperscraps? | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
lynching Palmar, and putting him in a bind. Your arguements, I get the gist though I don't quite believe your list. I'm willing to leave you alive for now, I'm so kind! ##Unvote: Kitaman27 ##Vote: Dirk Hardpec | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 27 2012 06:07 Foolishness wrote: Kitaman, I said in a post that I really don't mind lynching Palmar, and putting him in a bind. Your arguements, I get the gist though I don't quite believe your list. I'm willing to leave you alive for now, I'm so kind! ##Unvote: Kitaman27 ##Vote: Dirk Hardpec So I'm a liar, but you're going to vote with me anyways? Thank goodness for your kindness. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On March 27 2012 06:17 kitaman27 wrote: So I'm a liar, but you're going to vote with me anyways? Thank goodness for your kindness. I do not read carefully about the silly roles in this game. It is a waste of my time, I just hunt the mafia in name. So some of the events don't make much sense. We have plenty of targets now, we can wait before giving you pain. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On March 27 2012 06:04 kitaman27 wrote: From your perspective, I could be scum after shooting my scum buddy Paperscraps? Scum means scum, not mafia. There's nothing preventing you from being sleeper cell or third party. There's nothing stopping you from making a fake list, then we kill into it once, someone flips town, so we do it again, someone flips town, then someone says, "Maybe someone's a framer!", so we kill into it a third time, to flip another townie. Or if you're third party, you just make a list of your scum reads and hope you're right. You'd get one free pass due to a possible framer, and by the time we did that, you could just hope that you've achieved your win condition. Why should we trust you? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 27 2012 06:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Why should we trust you? I've shot a scum player (possibly more than one based on the hidden flips), I was one of the first players to bring up a case against blue, and I've just provided the names of three anti-town players. More importantly, why should we trust you. Role claim? | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On March 27 2012 06:36 kitaman27 wrote: I've shot a scum player (possibly more than one based on the hidden flips), I was one of the first players to bring up a case against blue, and I've just provided the names of three anti-town players. More importantly, why should we trust you. Role claim? So you shot a mafia, made a case against a mafia, killed a whole bunch of people, most of whom were probably town, and provided a list of names with no reason to trust it when you're already on the chopping block. How does that prove you're not third party or sleeper cell and playing towards a different win condition again? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 27 2012 07:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote: So you shot a mafia, made a case against a mafia, killed a whole bunch of people, most of whom were probably town, and provided a list of names with no reason to trust it when you're already on the chopping block. How does that prove you're not third party or sleeper cell and playing towards a different win condition again? I can't prove my role, other than claiming the flipped shots that can't be counter-claimed. I posted the results of nisani's invention when there wasn't a single player who knew I held the invention. You're asking a question that has no answer. What proof do you have that you're not sleeper cell or playing towards a different win condition? This game isn't about confirming players and their alignments, it about lynching the players most likely to being anti-town based on the evidence available. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
Even if kita is saying the truth about his role, we can not be sure that he is town motivated, however, I'll NOT lynch him right now. What do friendship flames do? And how many freakin KP do you have  Also Nisani would be confirmed, if you say the truth.Let's assume, I am willing to trust his radiator list and will use it. I won't lynch dirk, because I don't think he's cell. The role doesn't make sense and he seemed in no way to find his friends in the QT based on the invites. The three remaining players give us a 2/3 chance of hitting right, if dirk happens to be town even 100%. Nifty. Let's hope I don't blow it. The sad part is, that Kenpachi might actually end up town. Still completely random and thus impossible to read. David doesn't look scum to me, because of how he treated lightz. He might be cell, though, because of how his matter differs from what I've seen so far. Wiggles is right now my lynch candidate. He may be either scum or cell which enhances the chance of a hit. I think he's scum though. This post here: On March 22 2012 07:27 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Between Bluelightz and Dirk, the latter looks significantly more town than the other. After Day 1, Dirk's been posting pretty openly, and has actually been sharing reads of his own volition. This reflects well on him for now, and I don't feel good killing him today. If he doesn't continue following through with his reads on day 3 though, he could be a good choice for a day 4 lynch or night 3 shot. It's the same thing with a lot of players who open strongly, but don't actually push their scum reads on subsequent days. Just watch. If he's consistent, he's most likely town. Right now, I'm leaning town on him. The game I remember best from playing or observing Bluelightz, is Purgatory Mafia. In that game, I pegged him down as town pretty early in the game, simply due to the attitude and tone of his posts. I'm not getting the same feeling in this game. (For reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=235418). In that game, his reasons for his reads were actually based on his own reasoning, and for game reasons. In this game, the reasons for a lot of his reads are nonsensical, or attributed to the reasoning of others. As well, I feel he is not being as open with what he is posting, which seems to indicate that something is off about him. So, overall, I think Bluelightz is the better lynch between the two. ##Vote: Bluelightz really stuck out. Because it was way to try hard considering the vote count was 16-1 at that time. His other posts doesn't exactly radiate town vibes either. I don't like his reads. I didn't like how he called out a player asking if my shot is blockable, it might have been a tell, but he blows it up. Worst case scenario is that Nisani and Kita teamed up and completely fuck town now. Or kita does that by himself. I hope that's not the case. Thoughts? Agreements? Tomatoes? I'll be on for a bit, but I'll sleep pretty soon, because I didn't sleep much throughout the entire week. I'll vote Wiggles, but I'll decide the lynch anyways. Deal with it. Also, it's colour radiator. Stupid. ##Vote Jayjay54 I assume we still all need to vote to avoid a modill? | ||
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Jayjay54
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Jayjay54
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iGrok
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