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EchelonTee
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On February 05 2012 13:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Glad to hear it  what happens in mafia stays in mafia... and to anyone else whose ass I ride this game, we can all be friends after game ends.this pls. I feel like game's been fairly hostile =/ | ||
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EchelonTee
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who are you looking at as suspicious, then? the information you've been discussing isn't useless/fearmongering, but it's blatantly obvious. I'm curious about your opinions on people. | ||
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Bluelightz hasn't contributed much, and hasn't been able to defend himself well. It is within reason to say that he has not had good town play. However, has he been actively pushing scum favored agendas? He didn't push the timeaisis train forward. His main suspect that day, mderg, he accused in a fairly standard manner. He hasn't been actively hurting town atmosphere; lists can be spammy, but he hasn't been spamming. The more I think about it, the more I feel null on him. Not pro-town, not anti-town per se. The lists were a red flag for me, but if you look at his purgatory feed it's FULL of lists. Seriously Toast, reread it... I'm thinking you just skimmed the feed without fully analyzing it. Though bringing it to my attention was good; meta works well here. Looking back at Day 1, a lot of people grouped prplhz, Bluelightz, and Sentinel together as a scum team. And now that prplhz is all but guaranteed town, Bluelightz still holds the same level of high suspicion? Werid shit. I'm going to analyze the dead peoples' feeds in a bit. ##Unvote Bluelightz | ||
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##Unvote: Bluelightz ##Vote: No Lynch inb4 he's trying to cause a no lynch | ||
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On February 07 2012 08:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: 04:54 vs. 06:00. Sinani still came first -__- You're so stubborn that you don't realize you're wrong when the time stamps are clearly visible. Why are you STILL trying to discredit prplhz?? I don't give a shit if he's a vet or not. he SHOT sinani. despite all you people reading him as town. wtf have you done all game, besides insult people. Oh, is this supposed to be your master stroke? On February 07 2012 07:02 Sinensis wrote: prplhz I voted for you in my violent outburst of a post to see if anyone would try to go after me. You are confirmed town so long as no one tries to say they're a vigi too, why not see if I can go fishing for scum and have one try to start a movement against me? Afterward I can act dumb and the person who convinced me I get to add to my, "probably town" list. 1 We're you the one earlier who said that in your 50+ years of playing or however long you've never seen a scum slip? That they don't exist and people who try to find them are just making the waters murkier? I was also super pissed because you essentially killed our first townie with your "Sentinel or Timeaisis" ultimatum that everyone followed, especially when I was in a position to, as a townie, confirm his innocence. This made you look like scum to me, and TheToast if I remember correctly. 2 1. The problem with gambits such as this, is that by doing a SUPER SCUMMY move, you make TOWN people suspicious of you. It never occurred to you that a townie might start the movement on you? This paragraph here is just so wtf. Are you saying that mderg is added to your "probably town list", just because he told you prplhz can't be mafia because of no CC?? I stated that before mderg. PRPLHZ stated that before mderg. It took a one liner from mderg to convince you? This just reeks of "try to make prplhz look bad at any cost". 2.I noticed this the first time you said it; didn't make sense then, doesn't make sense now. How can you CONFIRM anyone's innocence? It's D1, no flips, no night actions, nothing. You can't possibly use voting analysis at that state of the game. Look at sinani; you sure were convinced he was town because he voted for Blue, remember? I said I would be back before deadline. Placeholder vote is placeholder vote. Since you're so anxious, ##Vote: Sinensis | ||
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##Vote: Sinensis | ||
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On February 07 2012 12:14 TheToast wrote: [...] analysis about ALL of the following people: mderg, EchelonTee, Nisani201 mderg - been fairly active all games, always explains what he's talking about. was not sold on Timeaisis being scum, and only voted Sinensis because he had to. Sort of non committal, but not scummy. EchelonTee - he's handsome. Nisani201 - lurking a lot, identified sinensis as not scum very early. he didn't have to. hasn't contributed much but has been consistent on his suspicion of Sentinel. I'm unconvinced he's red. On February 07 2012 23:02 BaronFel wrote: After looking through Nisani201's filter, I think he's rather suspicious (short posts, didn't explain his decisions much). He's probably my main suspect at this point. Though your posts are slightly longer than Nisani's, how are you any better than him? | ||
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On February 08 2012 11:32 TheToast wrote: Which of course brings me to ET. I already wrote up my thoughts on ET's posts for day 1 here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306452¤tpage=16#319 (sorry for the messed up quotes) My conclusion at the time was that he was just terrible at analysis. But seeing that he did it again Day 2 I am getting a bit worried. Not much to go on for ET's posts Day2, the only one of real substance is where he accused Sinesis: I don't have a problem with the first part. Sinesis majorly muddied the waters day 1, I also called out Sinesis for this so I can't hold this against ET. The second half of this argument makes no sense to me. Essentially ET is saying that Sinesis is scum for going after prphlz. I should point out that I did as well, and said I was not going to move my vote until I was sure there was not going to be a counter claim. Sinesis followed me in this. We both moved our votes when it became clear that no one was going to counter claim. How does that make him scum and me not? 1. I'm not sure I understand point 2 at all. ET thought he was scum because he was unhappy that ET's bad analysis lead to Time getting lynched? I don't understand this at all. Either way this is pretty much the bulk of ET's posting from Day2, not much to go on so I really can't get a good read. Still on my list of suspicions though. 2. Not sure what is going on with BaronFel, I can't make head or tails of his (lack of) posting. I guess we will have to see who gets the axe Night 2 and try to analyze it. I'm still wondering why Violinis was the mafia hit day 1, looking at the two together may give us some insight into who is on the right track. Hopefully I'm still here by then :S 3 1. My argument was essentially the converse of why people thought Sinensis was innocent; he was acting really scummy, talking nonsense, and discrediting people without doing anything. Some people said that he was being too scummy to be scum. I prefer lynching people who are scummy, rather than let them gallivant about and ruin town atmosphere. You can condemn my reads if you want, but if you honestly think that Sinensis was not acting scummy, there's no hope for you. You're also implying that I don't find you suspicious, though I do. I didn't think that any townie could rationally think that prplhz could be scum after that, and you and Sinensis being still on him was glaring. If you want me to spell it out for you, I think that mafia was trying to discredit prplhz because they won't be able to mislynch him, or reliably shoot him at night. 2. What you're implying here (and what mderg said explicitly R.I.P.) is that I haven't been posting much, or that I've been posting a lot of fluff. I've been one of the most active people in this game; though it's easy to hone into my hand-full of analysis posts and pick them apart, since they were wrong, if you wanted to analyze me, you'd better do a full job of it and look at my reactions to people, my questions, etc. I'm not going to let you mislynch me on the platform of "he was wrong so he's scum". Having a list of suspicions is fine and dandy; take a firm stance on me instead of just waffling around the topic. 3. I really don't get why you keep on posting this fear of the red bullet. Your D1/N1 activity was good for Mafia in that you wanted prplhz dead, who was getting suspicious of sinani, a red. Your D2 activity, you didn't take responsibility for anything, though you brought up a meta argument on Bluelightz that was the opposite of what you made it out to be. I don't know why I so easily assumed that you were townie; you posting these little tags sure as hell makes people think you're town. To be clear and explicit: by stating that you are afraid of being shot and that you hope you are still around, you're overemphasizing your "pro-towniness", which I think is an illusion; you post a lot, doesn't make you townie. | ||
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On February 08 2012 13:04 prplhz wrote: Cool enough. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel you agree with the dude you were going to push? buhh? | ||
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TheToast Nisani Sentinel Toast or anyone else, if you end up analyzing the dead people/vote patterns, that would be helpful. | ||
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Also, "fine tooth comb" what does that mean? Genuinely curious, not trying analyze or w.e Sleeping, will post thoughts tomorrow | ||
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@Sentinel I thought your post was leading into a case on Nisani, but you sort of shifted the focus onto BF. I don't really follow your case; you say Nisani is lurking / not providing reasons, but pass over him in favor of BF, who you attribute the same reasons toward. You do state that "As much as I'd love to see Nisani lynched, the fact of the matter is that a mislynch today will bring us to a LyLo scenario tomorrow.", but how does this make BF more suspicious? Basically I'm just wondering how you are distinguishing BF and Nisani, as atm you're applying the same characteristics to both. Still in classes, will put up meatier posts tonight. Also, lol at the phrase "TheToast's posts" haha | ||
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On February 09 2012 07:51 prplhz wrote: @EchelonTee Why do you care whether I push Nisani201 or not today? I asked you who you want to lynch and you don't even answer "Nisani201" because then I would be able to follow you, but instead you answer that you don't really know. At the beginning of day3 you of all people in this game don't know who to lynch. What the hell is that about? You sounded very sure that you wanted to push Nisani, but then voted with him, so I was confused; it doesn't seem so strange now that I think about why you would do that. Why do you want to "follow" me? I've been producing shit reads; I don't want to be hasty with this. I really don't understand Bluelightz posting style, and Toast hasn't posted as much as I thought he was going to. It's 2AM right now and I feel terrible; I know I said I was going to post meaty shiz tonight but I just can't. I'll do it tomorrow early as possible. On February 09 2012 07:18 prplhz wrote: Can people please vote for the person they currently think should be lynched. If town just sits around instead of committing then we can't force scum to commit either. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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On February 09 2012 11:54 Bluelightz wrote: @prp as I said in my short analysis on 1 of his post's, he is lurking hardcore, barely helped town. But, the way he post's is doesnt seem scummy, so he could also easily be town though. I'm in school btw so my post's will be random for now you've barely been helping town too. why should anyone think that you're innocent? you've displayed scummy traits; only reason you were passed over was that other people were acting worse. | ||
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