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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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Zeph is probably scum. That being said, I find GGQ to be scummier than Zeph. In addition to posting unhelpful and short posts, he's basically been straight-up plain-facedly lurking all game long. Although Zeph made some shitty cases and shitty arguments, GGQ hasn't made a case on anyone all game, pushed any lynches or done anything helpful. On top of that, he voted for Hesmyrr without announcing it in the thread or even posting at all, an action whose stupidity is magnificent. If GGQ isn't scum I will literally eat my hat and make a youtube video of it and try to go viral. | ||
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Blazinghand
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redFF
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Blazinghand
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Jackal58
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Jackal58
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Blazinghand
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Jackal58
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Blazinghand
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GGQ is for sure scum, so we lynch him first. Is that so complicated? Does nobody agree with me that GGQ is the scummiest? Or do you all think he's the scummiest guy here and at the same time somehow not think we should lynch him first? | ||
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Jackal58
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Blazinghand
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Barbiero
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I had a retardedly huge case on red. Then I realized it was retardedly huge and it could be simplified by a lot with a few quotes from him. Postgame you can ask me for it btw anyway, summarizing redFF. - Votes for shitty reasons everywhere http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303792¤tpage=8#142 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303792¤tpage=8#145 - Creates ghosts out of nowhere http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303792¤tpage=9#167 - Creates shitty reasoning to add "scumpoints" First of all, with Cwave there is no such thing as a valid point. Saying that automatically gives you scum points. I don't remember the post, this is in my notes and somewhere in his filter - Creates a fake role to generate towncred and communicate with teammates; This including Refallen who he never had a point of suspicion, because he thought he was scum with him http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303792¤tpage=27#535 Granted, he Refallen was green, however red, at that point, had him as scum and his whole defense for Refallen was "lol", which is ridiculous if he had thought him to be scum - Case on Jackal is purely "he OMGUS me", but he never gives real reasons to make Jackal a blue - Gets mad if people don't sheep him, as if he was some kind of god that had to be sheeped and not just another non-confirmed player who should actually play the game; This makes players uneasy to face him on a discussion and make him become a leader able to control town by himself - Anyone who considers lynching him he calls scum(see me, Lanaia); again goes with what I just said - Tries to discredit Lanaia's checks constantly even though she has been confirmed - And finally, his agenda. A little bit of math. We are currently at 7 players, six by tomorrow. When Hesmyrr supposedly scumslipped, we were at 10 players, "5-5" according to him. However, we couldn't possibly be at 5-5. Why? Because if every scum instavoted for a town player before town had put five votes on a scum, the game would be over. There are two explanations for that to not have happened - We were at 6-4 - Scum didn't know each other and couldn't coordinate their votes , And of course, both. At that time, Scamp was the lynch target. Assume redFF, scum, knew Scamp was a scum. Lynching him seems like an easy way to create towncred, right? right. Then, he provides his list His list isn't a scumlist. It's a priority list as to who should be lynched. This list isn't about who is the scummiest, but about who should die. His list was, at a point:
Notice that GGQ, who is seen as the scummiest of them all by some players(and red apparently is never sure about him), is the last on the list. Notice how Hesmyrr, who supposedly "scumslipped" is the top. Remember that math? Notice how it's not possible that we had been at 5-5. redFF, scum, noticed that. He looked at Hesmyrr saying that and thought "Hesmyrr cannot be one of the scum I don't know of". If Hesmyrr, who was town in red's eyes, was lynched he'd win the game by the night. But that's not what happened. Now he is targetting the next "probably not scum" player from his list, me. He isn't stupid; he generates suspicions and uses them to create cases with almost every player ingame. If you check his filter, you'll see he prepared ground for players like Blazinghand, Jackal, Lanaia, Vaderseven, but not GGQ until recently In fact, any chance he had of lynching GGQ before the recent events, GGQ would always be the bottom of his list. He'd ignore people calling his attention about it, he'd call out people who thought GGQ would be scum, etc. Now that we are approaching zero unconfirmed players, he is considering GGQ for that ez towncred. As I said, we were at 6-4 previously. Now we are at 4-2, and this is LYLO(if you mislynch me, you'll be at 2-2 by the next day and red+GGQ will snipe anyone). I'll be voting red by the deadline. Please re-read his filter and consider his actions from a scum POV. Peace. | ||
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Barbiero
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Blazinghand
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Also However, we couldn't possibly be at 5-5. Why? Because if every scum instavoted for a town player before town had put five votes on a scum, the game would be over. There are two explanations for that to not have happened - We were at 6-4 - Scum didn't know each other and couldn't coordinate their votes , And of course, both. There's a third possibility, which is that town has a KP. | ||
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Barbiero
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For an even number of town-to-scum to have town winning, it requires scum to not know eachother or not vote quickly enough. | ||
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Blazinghand
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Barbiero
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