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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 14 2012 22:03 GMT
#1777
I think you can hammer him now Syllo.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 14 2012 22:23 GMT
#1805
RoL is scum but I don't understand why everybody assumes Angel over demon. is it because of the way he's been interacting with HoD?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 15 2012 22:59 GMT
#1864
There's no way RoL is the real channeler, he was acting really scummy and even claimed VT earlier in the thread.
If HoD is sent to purgatory and there's no death then it's worth it to lynch HoD. All angels could possibly gain from holding back a lynch is one mislynch on HoD as opposed to the kill of their choice. Just way more likely that he is AoD and of course an Angel wouldn't shoot him.

if there is no purgatory then Wiggles was the Channeler not RoL. Meaning lt is much more likely that HoD is the real sage because it is such a risk to claim sage if the sage is alive. Not only do you get pressured by the sage but then he has to choose somebody that he is likely to check (Me) and say that he's not a demon. If I am a demon then suddenly me and my scumbuddies know that he is an angel and push for his lynch. To put it simply claiming sage without the real sage being dead would cause even more people to make cases on him and wouldn't help him.

@Tyrran What did you think of RoL as a lynch? Earlier you didn't believe he was scum and pushed for HoD instead but after the lynch you came into the game with a theory that there will be no RB because RoL was probably an angel who claimed Wiggle's role.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 16 2012 02:19 GMT
#1885
I'm pretty suspicious of you're check HoD.
@HoD : Why did you choose to check Layabout? What led you believe he was a demon?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 16 2012 14:55 GMT
#1985
On January 16 2012 23:41 Refallen wrote:
HoD claimed Seer**** the demon DT. Angel DT hasn't claimed yet, I think he should claim now if he's still alive. If he's not, that means syllo was the angel DT, which means time to look for his posts for breadcrumbs (again)

If syllo was the seer you're wasting your time. He was roleblocked both nights, there would be no breadcrumbs to find.

We want to lynch an Angel today, deal with the demons at night.
I trust that HoD is the sage, and I don't like the fact that Layabout was twisted. I think there is pretty good chance that he is a demon.
For the night actions tomorrow HoD needs to cleanse BH, and I feel that DH should shoot layabout. Demons can't twist both of them.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 16 2012 14:58 GMT
#1987
Oh you're right then they simply block BH.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 16 2012 20:27 GMT
#2005
This is what you need to consider Layabout.

Is anyone counter-claiming HoD? No.
frankly there's no reason not to counter claim if you are the sage and HoD is not, you're role is worth lynching the AoD ( roleblocked no AoD kill) to reveal and you would already have 3 reads.

Was wiggles likely to be the Sage? No. there was no purgatory last night so the channeler is dead and RoL was scummy, he made a plan that was anti-town, he lurked all game, did no scumhunting besides tunneling BH and claimed VT earlier in the thread. RoL was not the real channeler so by the process of elimination we can assume that Wiggles was.

The way I see it you are pushing for a lynch on the person that could do the most damage to demons, you were protecting Palmar earlier in the game, and the twist doesn't help yourself either (why would they want to twist you?)

Unless somebody else claims sage there is no reason to lynch HoD and you should stop tunneling on him and push a candidate more likely to flip scum.
@BH: I would be interested in hearing your non-dark read.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 16 2012 22:49 GMT
#2040
Why don't the demons just reveal RoL's flip, it will help us make a better decision and help you're team overall. You guys want an angel lynch just as badly as we do, use BH to vote on Tyrran if he was channeler, Use BH to vote on dirkzor if he was scum
That way we know for sure whether we need to lynch HoD or not.
A mislynch is BAD for your team today, give us the information and we can avoid it.

Communicating with the demons via corrupted townies is allowed right?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 16 2012 22:51 GMT
#2042
Or if you want, you can just talk to us directly Layabout
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 17 2012 01:35 GMT
#2071
It seems like we've came to an agreement that we want to lynch an angel though.
I don't see Layabout flipping Angel. Bluelightz would be a much preferable lynch over layabout.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 17 2012 22:37 GMT
#2213
Ok guys, I haven't read through the thread yet but I'm here to vote. If anyone wants to fill me in that would be great.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 17 2012 23:05 GMT
#2224
On January 18 2012 03:55 Zephirdd wrote:
oh btw I couldn't find Angel on Refallen, nor scum or whatsoever

On January 18 2012 05:32 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 05:30 layabout wrote:
voting refallen


what the fuck and what about all your bullshit about HoD being scum?

The only thing that stands out for me about refallen is that he is so certain about statement(ie syllo is VT).

Can someone point something for me about Ref, even if its the link to a case on him?


On January 18 2012 05:44 Zephirdd wrote:
At this point, I don't think we can hammer. Out of 8 possible voters(Bluelightz votes Jackal and is asleep, the target obv won't vote himself), two or three are Angels. If our target is an Angel, We have 5-6 anti-angel votes. Should ONE player decide "I don't want to lynch him", we can't lynch.

I'll leave my vote on Refallen.

from what I see the only reason you are voting refallen is because other people are and you don't want a no-lynch.
A mislynch is WORSE than a no-lynch. What has changed you're mind from before?

I may be jumping to assumptions, layabout is defending bluelightz, if he is in fact a demon (which I think he is) then bluelightz could be his scumbuddy. You can't compare HoD's reads with BL because HoD makes some definitive statements and uses some reasoning. BL just posts a bunch of leaning towns and a couple town/scum whatever the fuck that means. He will never be held accountable for anything because he never gives an opinion. "Bluelightz what happened to you're scum read on Grackaroni? "Meh I didn't know what he was, town/scum."

I was going to give HoD some shit for voting for somebody "he had a bad feeling about" He has tried to push the lynch onto Dirkzor/Jackal though.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 17 2012 23:30 GMT
#2240
On January 14 2012 17:24 Refallen wrote:
I'm voting for RoL bar some last-minute role-claim, no worries.

Don't like this. Almost as if he knew that RoL was going to role claim so that he could move his vote off of him as soon as he claims.


On January 15 2012 06:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I am working and just turned my laptop on in the back. It's pathetic that it even came to this, I have no idea how you managed to scrounge up 5 votes on me, but the fact now is they need one more vote before demons can force hammer me with the corrupted.

So now I have to claim, I am the Channeler. I need to finish closing now, but I will be back before the deadline. I will prove myself by claiming my action before the next day post.




On January 17 2012 10:31 Refallen wrote:
We need to decide on a lynxh target. I do not mind lynching either dirkzor/Tyrran/layabout here

Why do you want to lynch somebody likely to be a demon today?


On January 17 2012 22:58 Refallen wrote:
Sorry, trying to get me lynched is probably a more accurate term.

Anyhow, I'll be going to bed soon. I'll wake up earlier (3 hours or so before deadline hopefully) so hopefully by that time we have a clear lynch on Dirkzor/Bluelightz/Tyrran where I can just hammer. Peace.

Why not really push for those lynches?


On January 18 2012 07:58 Refallen wrote:
I'm back and I'm not demon or angel. Lynching me will lose us the game...

How did there suddenly form a wagon on me? I am very fine with lynching bluelivhtz and to me it seems increasingly clear that he's an angel.

This is honestly not how you want to avoid a lynch, everyone will say "hey I'm town!" You need to help convince people that their is somebody scummier than you. If you are town you are letting us down right now.
I think Refallen has a decent chance of flipping Angel but personally I would prefer Bluelightz/tyrran. Of course if we can't gain a majority then I will lynch refallen, he has done nothing that makes me believe he is town and he was open to lynching Palmar so probably not a demon either.

I want to go to dinner but I will be back soon.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 17 2012 23:31 GMT
#2244
Oh I missed the roleclaim, definitely don't lynch Refallen unless there's a counter-claim.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 17 2012 23:33 GMT
#2251
Did the demons put you're vote there?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 17 2012 23:39 GMT
#2260
Jackal has as good chances of being angel as Tyrran/Dirkzor/Bluelightz. As long as we get a majority we've got this.
##Vote:Jackal58
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 17 2012 23:40 GMT
#2265
I'm going to dinner. Hammer Jackal.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 18 2012 00:53 GMT
#2307
LOL bluelightz was right! Jackal is town/scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 18 2012 01:29 GMT
#2322
Yeah there's no reason for Refallen not to call his attack.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 18 2012 01:42 GMT
#2327
@Refallen. You may have to shoot Blazinghand tonight. it promises that Demons will not control the lynch and if they do then they can just kill you and will win the game. If you aren't confident on a demon read then shoot him.
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