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GreYMisT
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GreYMisT
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On December 17 2011 05:18 Comprissent wrote: So you would argue the hits were completely random? And we should just ignore trying to explain any of the motivation for these kills? I find it hard to believe scum would just pick targets at random. There has to be some reasoning behind their hits Of course there is reasoning. that is not what WIFOM means. it means that you cannot predict the reasoning behind someone's actions when they are fully aware their actions will be scrutinized. For example, you might conclude prp died to take suspicion off of zeks, but what if mafia knew that and killed prp so we would think that is just what they were doing and zeks is really town? or maybe.... | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 17 2011 05:19 Curu wrote: I'm not crumbling I just don't want to put forth the effort required. How do you want me to defend myself? The case is literally "Curu bandwagoned switched to Spaackle cause he sheeped Radfield!" which is completely untrue as I started the Spaackle lynch and convinced Radfield and "Erandorr is not posting!" which I can't do anything about. Kita so sloooooooooow. Put me out of my misery! then why not say the case is shit and just go along your merry way? you didnt have to do all this and yet you did. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 17 2011 05:29 Comprissent wrote: At the least it narrows a suspect list considerably. We can at least keep this in mind and reevaluate the suspects and their later actions thats the problem though, it actually doesnt lower the suspect list. what if they just killed people to sidetrack us? what if there is no meaning? what if everything is just chaos? A bit dramatic but you get my point, the only thing you can really do for sure with night kills is look at the flip, and then reread the thread with those roles in mind. | ||
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GreYMisT
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On December 17 2011 05:37 Arctocod wrote: It appears he silenced himself, which equals scum claiming so vote for him please what in the hell kind of power is that? | ||
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If he is town he is no longer playing to win. If he is scum well... ##Vote: professorbadass | ||
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On December 17 2011 07:28 risk.nuke wrote: you can't "no comment", Hypotheticly if ProfBad used that abillity. would the post had looked just the same with a different name if he had used it on someone else or did you write that post biased by the circumstances. Usually everything is to be regarded as flavor unless otherwise stated by the host. | ||
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On December 17 2011 11:04 VisceraEyes wrote: Because he's pissed off at being lynched for no reason? Remember, I'm the cry-baby king over here, I can TOTALLY see a townie getting all snot-faced about being lynched from 1 word from Palmar. *shrug* Thats the thing though, at that time he only had like 4 votes on him, and a lot of us were talking about other things. | ||
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just sayin | ||
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On December 17 2011 11:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Grey, what do you say to the accusation that you're guilty of changing your opinion of someone based entirely on town's sentiment? I change my vote based in who I want to lynch. That's it. | ||
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On December 18 2011 01:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: hmm after filterin almost everyone individually, I made a scumranklist including scummyness of every player in this game. I'd like to discuss that list especially with radfield, Palmar and Syllo. Do you think it's better to post that list now or better at the end of the night. I think I got some correct and well reasoned townreads on several players... Maybe that would make them to scumtargets... Although the advantage to discuss that list today is that we lay down more pressure on the people who I don't have a townread on and we have more time... So what do you think... Moreover I know that you, Palmar and Syllo, already have such a list aswell. However I think we have some differences. If we exchange our opinions, I guess we could nail down most of the scumteam... I don't think you understand when to use ellipses (...). Anyway I'll be retreading the thread today as well. Suggest everyone do the same. | ||
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maybe more was going on at that time that we didnt notice, I'll have to reread that whole section. | ||
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Bum and VE BOTH suspected evantrees. Both of their posts occured at around the same time, just 2 minutes appart, with Bum's occuring first. However, we can see that while VE's is in depth and detailed, Bum has a very skeleton analysis. I will touch on what this means in a second. Next, when Bum began to garner suspicion, he said that he had "already found scum" and that it was a 100% guarnentee that evantrees would flip red. Finally, VE has proven his scumhunting abilities this game to me by targeting Bum off of just 1 filter page to work with. Now what does this mean when we put it together? To me it paints a rather dismal picture for evantrees. the skeleton analysis of Bum on Evan resulted at a time where he (evan) was already under some scrutiny. The timing and the actual content of the analysis lead me to believe that this was a minor bus, with Bum hoping to post a fairly bad case so evan won't get lynched, but if a wagon starts he can be on it early. My next point was that Bum started to get some moderate pressure put on him, so he said that evan was 100% scum. Remember, we now know that Bum was mafia. Why risk saying someone was 100% scum if you both already know the aliengments of everyone, and you know they are a fairly big target? the only way that makes sense to me is if he was trying to divert attention from himself by directing attention to evantrees. Because of these events I am fairly certain evan is scum. what do the rest of you think? | ||
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On December 18 2011 15:35 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: Hmm, looks like I am triple posting. I guess nobody else is on right now :-( @greymist Interesting theory regarding evantrees, but the main issue I am having with evantrees being scum, is that upon reviewing his filter, the only person he tended to consistently call out as being suspicious of/slightly scummy, was ProfessorBadass. Do you think this is just more soft-bussing to give some more town cred to the other if one was lynched, or genuine suspicion? It could be. As scum it is often hard to make a valid analysis on a town player, unless everyone is playing terribly. The above could be done to the same end as Bum's early accusations of evantrees, a weak case designed to appear like scumhunting, but never really meant to gain momentum. I of course could be wrong, but to me this all makes sense. I would like Radfield's and Arctocod's input on this as well. | ||
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On December 18 2011 23:56 Arctocod wrote: haven't read him. I just noticed even back on day 1 greymist seemed... I don't know, passive, disinterested, distant etc. Thats because on day one GeYMisT had exams, you can check the pregame for that excuse. I'll answer your questions when I get back, but in the meantime at least talk about other people aside from me? | ||
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I wanted professor badass in office because of te same reason I wanted arcticod and radfield. At that time I had no reason to think he was scum, and he was the next on the list of people most likely to be shot that night. I do agree that there is at least one scum on the vote list for professor badass though, as it would be pretty hilarious if he got in to office with 0 scum support. I explained my reasoning earlier about the suggestion for MrZentor as secretary of defense. Remember at that time I thought it was a public rolecheck. I suggested Zentor because: A. He already claimed his role in thread, allowing us to check if he was Lyning or not. B. putting someone in who had already claimed would protect other blues from exposure C. I did not believe any powers were associated with this role. | ||
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On December 19 2011 02:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: i had refallen on my townlist. greymist is 95% scum. will get back to this later and advice annul to post my list 1min before the night ends. Just noting this for now, notice how dues (supersoft) said earlier that he is very good at telling my town from my scum, and because of this he would research me. Now notice how he waits for both arcticod and radfield to voice their suspicions before he posts. If he is so sure I am "95%" scum and he has as good of reads as he claims, why not say this earlier instead of waiting for Arcto and rad? | ||
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