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On December 21 2011 13:29 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 13:24 GreYMisT wrote:On December 21 2011 13:07 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:On December 21 2011 13:07 GreYMisT wrote:
I know there was someone posting that they thought nycz was town, if someone could tell me who that person was that would be awesome.
I still think cascades is scummy, but I'm going to look over jitsu again, I have not visited his thoughts for a while. It was me. I'm having some trouble finding it, is this the post you were talking about?: On December 20 2011 09:16 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote:
As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there.
Nyc for being very inactive most of the time but just above the lurk threshold. He also trained on Spaackles and as far as i can remember he voted Profb in office. zentor back on the target list as for what he just wrote. Fluff and dribble and Seth even calls him out/prompt. As for you yourself you seem to have given yourself an overseer position who puts the unknown players to work. I like it. Doesnt make you green which i hope you are.
Question back, if Grey flips town who should we go for or pressure? Anyone tied to his faith? If he flips town? I don't think that would be particularly implicating of anyone. If he flips red Sheth will look really bad having defended both the professor and greymist. As for who to go after next, I am not decided on that yet. I would really like to hear more from any of those in the sub-3-pages of filter club. And by hear more I mean hear their top scum reads with explanations. On December 20 2011 08:44 GreYMisT wrote:On December 16 2011 11:56 nyczbrandon wrote:On December 16 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
nyc, here's a homework assignment:
Go look through zeks' posts, and as you're reading them, consider "Would scum say this?" and write the answer that comes to your head, and give the reasons why you think that.
Then, when you're done with that, go through Sheth's posts and do the same thing.
Then, when you're done with that, go through risk.nuke's posts and do the same thing.
Then, after you've done all 3 of us, come back and post your findings.
If you post ANYTHING that even RESEMBLES a defense of your lurking again, I'm going to insta-vote you. Stop lurking. Start helping. Or hang by the neck until dead. okay sure This is who I want dead. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=138684Earlier on in day2 i posted some thoughts about him. But Im going to sum them up real nice. Doesnt take a stance on anything at all unless forced to by another player. Lurks Admits to sheeping radfield When he does post his "opinions" they are skeleton cases in which nothing is really said. Now lets look at the above quote. Remember when Viscera posted this? thats right a freaking while ago. This is also the final post in nycz's filter. thats right, After Viscera died, his pressure was gone, forgotten. So why post about it again? He has had more than ample time to respond, so why hasnt he? a townie would have at least responded to some of it, to get his opinion out there. Instead he has not. Because he is a lurker, he is going to post his thoughts after this post, as the pressure is now back on, But i still want to emphasis how much time he has had to honor VE's wishes. Let's not worry about potential scum that hasn't posted in the thread for the past 4 days, mmk? I'm sure he is well on his way to being modkilled or replaced. If he is replaced and not mod-killed, we can deal with it then, sound good? His last post in the thread: nyczbrandon United States. December 16 2011 11:56. Posts 108 I don't think you are scum, I'm just trying to locate peoples opinions on nycz. i've read through Jitsu once, and ill have to do it again before I come to any real conclusions. so far I think he is most likely town though. He was tunneling compressient all game to be sure, but when it came time for comp to be lynched his play differed from what I thought scum play would be. Instead of voting, posting that he thought comp was scum, and then falling off the thread, he instead made it known that he was one of the first to post a case on him, and made himself known as the night post approached. Would of course like to hear others' thoughts on this, but so far he looks pretty green to me. No it is not what I was talking about. Posts are spoilered below: + Show Spoiler +On December 20 2011 09:22 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:20 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:16 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote:
As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there.
Nyc for being very inactive most of the time but just above the lurk threshold. He also trained on Spaackles and as far as i can remember he voted Profb in office. zentor back on the target list as for what he just wrote. Fluff and dribble and Seth even calls him out/prompt. As for you yourself you seem to have given yourself an overseer position who puts the unknown players to work. I like it. Doesnt make you green which i hope you are.
Question back, if Grey flips town who should we go for or pressure? Anyone tied to his faith? If he flips town? I don't think that would be particularly implicating of anyone. If he flips red Sheth will look really bad having defended both the professor and greymist. As for who to go after next, I am not decided on that yet. I would really like to hear more from any of those in the sub-3-pages of filter club. And by hear more I mean hear their top scum reads with explanations. On December 20 2011 08:44 GreYMisT wrote:On December 16 2011 11:56 nyczbrandon wrote:On December 16 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
nyc, here's a homework assignment:
Go look through zeks' posts, and as you're reading them, consider "Would scum say this?" and write the answer that comes to your head, and give the reasons why you think that.
Then, when you're done with that, go through Sheth's posts and do the same thing.
Then, when you're done with that, go through risk.nuke's posts and do the same thing.
Then, after you've done all 3 of us, come back and post your findings.
If you post ANYTHING that even RESEMBLES a defense of your lurking again, I'm going to insta-vote you. Stop lurking. Start helping. Or hang by the neck until dead. okay sure This is who I want dead. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=138684Earlier on in day2 i posted some thoughts about him. But Im going to sum them up real nice. Doesnt take a stance on anything at all unless forced to by another player. Lurks Admits to sheeping radfield When he does post his "opinions" they are skeleton cases in which nothing is really said. Now lets look at the above quote. Remember when Viscera posted this? thats right a freaking while ago. This is also the final post in nycz's filter. thats right, After Viscera died, his pressure was gone, forgotten. So why post about it again? He has had more than ample time to respond, so why hasnt he? a townie would have at least responded to some of it, to get his opinion out there. Instead he has not. Because he is a lurker, he is going to post his thoughts after this post, as the pressure is now back on, But i still want to emphasis how much time he has had to honor VE's wishes. Let's not worry about potential scum that hasn't posted in the thread for the past 4 days, mmk? I'm sure he is well on his way to being modkilled or replaced. If he is replaced and not mod-killed, we can deal with it then, sound good? His last post in the thread: nyczbrandon United States. December 16 2011 11:56. Posts 108 Wait what? not worry about scum who have not posting in the thread? As far as I'm aware the goal of the game is to kill scum, if you think i have found one then why leave it? Because 2 things: 1) I don't think he is scum, as I have posted about before. 2) Modkills kill people just as well as lynches, and discussing someone who can't defend himself at all (by being completely afk from the thread) doesn't really help town discussion. On December 17 2011 07:16 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:@VE I agree in wanting discussion going on besides just the Curu/ProfessorBadass lynch. I believe I mentioned it before, but I am leaning toward newbie town over newbie scum on nycz. As I mentioned before, I think if he was on a scum team they would have offered him at least some pointers on his play to make it less useless. If I am correct about him being town, I'd really appreciate it if he could step it up and be more active and post some well thought-out analysis on someone. At the very least he could do what he said he would do here: + Show Spoiler +On December 16 2011 11:56 nyczbrandon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
nyc, here's a homework assignment:
Go look through zeks' posts, and as you're reading them, consider "Would scum say this?" and write the answer that comes to your head, and give the reasons why you think that.
Then, when you're done with that, go through Sheth's posts and do the same thing.
Then, when you're done with that, go through risk.nuke's posts and do the same thing.
Then, after you've done all 3 of us, come back and post your findings.
If you post ANYTHING that even RESEMBLES a defense of your lurking again, I'm going to insta-vote you. Stop lurking. Start helping. Or hang by the neck until dead. okay sure That being said, I certainly wouldn't be too upset to see him gone, but I don't think it is a particularly good use of a lynch. @nycz Have you looked at any of the guides/records of previous games? Regarding evantrees, I see a lot of the stuff that scum loves to do to be 'useful', like answering things that can be answered by looking in the op, looking at the voting thread, etc. I would be much more comfortable lynching him than I would be lynching nycz. @evantrees How about you give your top 2 scum reads and some analysis on them? You said you were trying to be helpful, and your scum reads will be infinitely more helpful than things like: + Show Spoiler +We do
Time Cycle:
Currently the deadline is 2200 EST[local]
This game will follow a 48 hour day cycle, 24 hour night cycle. last one took him a few minutes(at 12:19) as well, hopefully not 19 minutes this time.
He's making it appropriately themed I suppose. too try keep it at 3 as long as possible as in not go down to 4 members
Total Mafia = 5
Mafia kp=#mafia/2 (rounded up) Elected peopel can't be lynched that day.
lynchproof for the day only + some sort of ability most likely, expecting Police Chief to show up sometime given the dead list from day 1 but what that would do not sure. so assuming radfield is to be believed about being roleblocked.
the mafia has
attorney used
a roleblocker
and 3 unknowns possibly one a vanilla goon. I really doubt more than 1 vanilla goon given the election. I could list more, but I think you get the point. On December 16 2011 09:27 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 09:17 Radfield wrote:On December 16 2011 09:16 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:@greymist What about nyczbrandon makes him seem like scum to you rather than newbie-town? Do you think scum would be letting one of their members say things like: :/ I like to lurk. I also just came back recently and I saw a post with my name in it so I decide to respond to it. If you believe he is scum, I presume you also believe he was told to play the newbie card rather hard? Most scum teams don't take an active role in the posting of their members. In fact many scum teams don't really post much at all in their QT outside of KP and role discussion. Hmm, I seem to recall seeing some ideas for posts/posts made in quicktopics before posting them in the thread from past games I have read through, and I have certainly seen some coaching of newbies in them. Regardless, this part still stands: If you believe he is scum, I presume you also believe he was told to play the newbie card rather hard? Unless Greymist believes nycz decided to use that strategy on his own and then decided to ask: on his own as well. On December 16 2011 09:16 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:@greymist What about nyczbrandon makes him seem like scum to you rather than newbie-town? Do you think scum would be letting one of their members say things like: Show nested quote +:/ I like to lurk. I also just came back recently and I saw a post with my name in it so I decide to respond to it. If you believe he is scum, I presume you also believe he was told to play the newbie card rather hard?
Yea those are the ones I remember, thanks.
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As far as my power goes, I'll just say I'm really glad scum don't have it and leave it at that.
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Deus better have a name for us anyway
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Alright so sheth was the roleblocker, So the only power of theirs left is the one that pulled arcto out of office?
I did not enact the secrete ballot btw, that was kita or a scum power.
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It is obvious of course that we should type our votes in thread as we would if there were no other voting thread.
Please do this, If your vote in here does not match the final vote tally you die.
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I believe Cwave and cascades need to be looked into. Sheth said he would look into cwave, and then began to expound upon how town cwave looks. Cascades is a bit of a carry over from yesterday, but their interactions at the start of the game seem odd to me, as well as the fact that sheth said we should lynch him today, but didnt really comment on him at all.
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Radfield, Did you use your first medic shot?
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Guys catching up now, I was just notified from kita that I was roleblocked last night, so that is accounted for.
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Also risk, I understand some frustration, but you're going to have to take a chill pill and stop with the personal attacks. They are distracting and serve nothing but to incite anger and silence.
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Did zeks not claim? Im
Pretty sure he has.
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Guys take a look at cwave for me. I became suspicious myself when I looked back and saw sheth had claimed he had "great posting" and that he looked really town. As i personally read his filter I came across a few things:
Not a lot of time spent trying to get elected (more than Curu though)
Immediate hostility towards all the vets (sensless hostility)
Does nothing to dissuade wagons forming on now known towies (me, spaakles) yet in the case of spaakles berated town for its incompetence
Almost never even mentions Sheth at all.
These to me all add up to scum. I would like to hear what others think too, as we do actually have to talk about a lynch today guys.
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I have voted cwave for the lynxh at the moment. Both my earlier reasons and radfield's additions to the case are obviously my reasoning.
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Probally would have hurt more than it would have potentially helped. The lynch train that would have started against you for not watching rad would be instant, and to have you say at the end "its ok guys i really did watch him" would probally not have stopped it.
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On December 24 2011 07:30 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
the cases are rubbish. Cwave is innocent.
So, care to enlighten us with who you think we should lynch?
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I voted for zeks, I'm here.
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Radfield what do you feel about the cwave or cascades lynch? im comfortable lynching either and my vote is on cwave atm.
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please read....
On December 22 2011 12:25 kitaman27 wrote:
A secret ballot has been enacted! All lynch and election votes shall be submited via pm to myself and cyber_cheese. Only the results of the lynch and election shall be revealed at the end of the day. The vote count will not be public knowledge.
You have 48 hours remaining in the day.
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Im fine with either casc or cwave, as both look scummy to me. My vote is on cwave atm because of some remarks sheth made about him, in conjunction with the way he has been acting.
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I think a lot of people are inactive because we are approaching christmas
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