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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 11:35 GMT
#1047
You thought I was scum in XLIII for not posting what I was thinking and you think I'm scum now for posting too much of what I'm thinking. Derp okay.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 11:42 GMT
#1048
On August 23 2011 18:30 xtfftc wrote:
Wall of text incoming:

[spoiler]
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 11:37 Curu wrote:
xtffc's "two town kills" slip definitely needs to be looked at, and I don't buy his defense. He describes town kills as kills that the Town makes, but that has absolutely nothing to do with modkills. Town does not control modkills, sick slip?????

Of course townkills have nothing to do with modkills. Townkills are made by town, modkills by mods. What is the problem?



You posted about "we need to get two town kills." That's taken to mean killing two townies - you tried to explain it away by saying town kills are kills controlled by the town = lynch and modkill. I pointed out modkill is not controlled by the Town, you agree with me. So...what did you mean by town kill?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 11:50 GMT
#1051
...so you claim DT and rather than push the guy you got a red result on you go for Mig because "Mig was up for lynch first so why the hell not."??????
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 11:59 GMT
#1055
Townie does not = they are right. I think Foolishness is the most likely Townie in this game, that doesn't mean I'm going to sheep his opinion all day.

Why pick this time to claim DT? You had all of 1 vote on you.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 12:49 GMT
#1072
Well, all aboard the supersoft wagon.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 12:53 GMT
#1078
Hey Kurumi, how come you only show up after someone has checked red?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 13:01 GMT
#1083
I asked your dog.

She said you were busy posting in your quicktopic.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 13:13 GMT
#1097
I think it's beyond obvious that speculating on alignment based on flavour is stupid, especially with the bit in the OP that everyone has already pointed out.

DB's claim makes no sense at all to fake, it's a ridiculously nonsensical time to claim but he has no reason for faking it.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#1100
On August 23 2011 22:11 Palmar wrote:
Millers do not know they are millers.


How do you know this?

Are Millers/Nosy Neighbors told they are such?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 13:19 GMT
#1103
On August 23 2011 22:16 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 22:15 Curu wrote:
On August 23 2011 22:11 Palmar wrote:
Millers do not know they are millers.


How do you know this?

Are Millers/Nosy Neighbors told they are such?


Because that's how millers always work.


Wasn't obvious to me.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 13:28 GMT
#1109
On August 23 2011 22:26 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 11:37 Curu wrote:

I really don't like this post by Jackal:

On August 23 2011 09:24 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 23 2011 09:19 Mig wrote:

Jackal - gives no reason whatsoever for voting me

Sure I did. It was a coin flip between you and Vain. It was your late vote on Sevryn to hammer home a lynch when it was almost shifted to Rayzor.

Explain please.


Coinflip sure, but why Mig? If Town he is undoubtedly the stronger player than Vain. Mig had actually tried to start something about chaoser earlier, whereas Vain jumped in with an absolutely nonsensical post that was complete flip-floppery over Sevyrn/Rayzor yet conveniently landed his vote on Sevyrn and disappeared. He has also shown no interest or contributing or scumhunting, only in defending himself. Vain for sure looked worse than Mig and Mig is for sure the more dangerous player against Mafia. Yet you chose to put your votes on Mig when there was a wagon building up on him from Foolishness/chaoser rather than pursuing Vain. Can you explain this more?

Who the hell scares you more as scum? Mig? Or Vain? I had issues with both. I asked the same question of both. I'm still undecided on both.

DB vs SS
Lynch SS. If he is not what DB presents him as we lynch DB. It's a 1 for 1 trade. Scum don't like 1 for 1 trades.I don't know why there is any issue with this. Inspite of Barundars best Ace impersonation lynching the DT first is stupid.

Errandorr - Flavor text is the storyline in your role PM. Instead of - You are townie, you get a story.



Vain does. I've said many times that Mig's meta is godawful for Mafia, he has to bus his teammates and make quality posts or he gets shot into the spotlight. Think of Vain like Kenpachi, no one expects him to do anything relevant and he flies under the radar. That scares me much more than someone who has to constantly post and contribute.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 14:31 GMT
#1126
Compare the results with what? The only way we can determine his sanity is to flip the people he checks.

DB's claim at this point in time makes no sense for either side, which is why I can't fathom it. It makes infinitely less sense from a Mafia viewpoint though, so I'm inclined to believe his claim.

He didn't try to push the person he got a red result on at all, content to sit back and watch someone else get lynched. His posting suggests that he didn't even consider his sanity, so that can't be the motivation behind it. I really can't make sense of DB's play.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 17:47 GMT
#1170
What is this I don't even...
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 17:57 GMT
#1174
On August 24 2011 01:09 DropBear wrote:
Cos I'm an idiot. Can we drop it please. Forget it happened. Stop the derailment. Mafia will be laughin their arse off right now.

Get back to scumhunting. RayzorFlash you have disappeared.
##Vote RayzorFlash


Are you even reading the fucking thread? A RayzorFlash vote is useless at this point, RayzorFlash is not a top candidate, you like supersoft/Mig so you fakeclaim DT, fake a guilty on supersoft but vote Mig and now you're voting RAYZORFLASH? Build a good case against Rayzor if you want that to be the lynch. If you were suspicious enough about supersoft build a real case. If you are suspicious of Mig build a case.

WHY RAYZORFLASH AFTER YOU DID A DROPDEAD (HAHAHAH GET IT???) RETARDED GAMBIT TO TRY TO ENFORCE YOUR SCUMREAD AGAINST SUPERSOFT/MIG? And then it comes out that you're actually the godamn MEDIC?

Seriously DB what the HELL are you doing?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 18:26 GMT
#1177
This still makes no fucking sense.

Envision the possibility of Mafia DB fakeclaiming DT to force a mislynch, then afterwards acting confused and blaming it on his sanity. We spend the next little bit trying to figure out his sanity, throwing the Town into more confusion/chaos/derailment, while he sits back and laughs. When his claim got pressured he folded realizing he had already fucked up by not previously acting like a DT whatsoever, so he claims the one thing that would save him: Medic protecting Foolishness. He could count on the real Medic not outing himself because THAT'S WHAT MEDICS ARE SUPPOSED TO PLAY LIKE.

I hope to God this is what happened because your play as Town makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER DB.

Sigh.

Will have to re-read to gauge reactions from people regarding this fakeclaim.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 18:37 GMT
#1178
Actually this makes more sense to me the more I think about. If he was Mafia, he has an excuse for not being touched by Mafia because he led a mislynch and is under fire, he can get through 2-3 more people, claiming guilty on each one, then at the end claim he is actually paranoid and skate the rest of the way.

Keep this in mind if another Medic flips or claims.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 19:12 GMT
#1189
Alright well stuff that jumped out at me since DB's claim:

On August 23 2011 21:43 Kurumi wrote:
DB, didn't Foolishness claim RB? Unless supersoft flips RB You're fucked and You know it. But Supersoft might flip miller or regular goon(or anything else goes).


I still don't know what the hell Kurumi was trying to say here, he also disappeared after someone asked him to explain.

VE didn't weigh in at all on the situation, beyond posting some one liner.

xtfftc conveniently fades into the background during the chaos, letting us forget about him and not posting at all.

wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 19:13 GMT
#1191
Oh there's xtfftc. Ninja'd.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 19:15 GMT
#1192
On August 24 2011 04:12 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, this town is full of WIFOM, and it has a name: Dropbear.

This exact situation happened in wherewolfs. day2, someone claims DT, we keep him alive. Town then spends 2 days trying to decide if the claimer is telling the truth or not. we kill him 2 days later: he was a DT. Knowing this, I wish I would have lynched him right when he claimed. We would have lost a DT, but established an important meta: claims that cannot be confirmed must never happen!

claims that cannot be confirmed must never happen

I say there is a 50/50 chance that DB is scum. considering all thats happened today, thats good enough to lynch off of.

##Vote: DropBear

DB, If you town, I am sorry, but you left us in a terrible situation.

xtfftc defense has been fairly reasonable. he has not back away from what he said, and he seems to general feel that he has done nothing wrong. good on ya xtfftc, lets scum hunt.

Also, apologies to GreyMist for calling him out when I didn't notice he was asking for a replacement.


This post reeks of scum.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 19:35 GMT
#1204
On August 24 2011 04:12 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, this town is full of WIFOM, and it has a name: Dropbear.

This exact situation happened in wherewolfs. day2, someone claims DT, we keep him alive. Town then spends 2 days trying to decide if the claimer is telling the truth or not. we kill him 2 days later: he was a DT. Knowing this, I wish I would have lynched him right when he claimed. We would have lost a DT, but established an important meta: claims that cannot be confirmed must never happen!

claims that cannot be confirmed must never happen

I say there is a 50/50 chance that DB is scum. considering all thats happened today, thats good enough to lynch off of.

##Vote: DropBear

DB, If you town, I am sorry, but you left us in a terrible situation.

xtfftc defense has been fairly reasonable. he has not back away from what he said, and he seems to general feel that he has done nothing wrong. good on ya xtfftc, lets scum hunt.

Also, apologies to GreyMist for calling him out when I didn't notice he was asking for a replacement.


You want to policy lynch on day 2, despite the fact that you've never mentioned policy lynches before (this would further stifle discussion as well). You use an example that you mislynched a DT to support your case against DB......? Beyond this being a terrible example (seriously how is mislynching a DT at all supportive of your point here?), the situation is completely different too, Nisani was in immediate danger of being lynched that's why he claimed. I fail to see how it's the same at all.

Where did your 50/50 chance come from? You've never even mentioned DB before this post, suddenly you think he's 50/50 scum? I could understand this coming from someone like Palmar, who already leaned scum on him, but you have given nothing in regards to DB. I agree that DB's claim makes no sense as Town and that there is the chance he is gambiting scum, but I wouldn't even put it at 50/50 and I didn't like DropBear before this shit started.

Finally the hedging your bet, "sorry if you're Town" already apologizing for what you must feel/know is a mislynch.

Filtering your posts makes you look even worse, it's full of generalizations and "I'll do this when I feel like it" "I wasn't here because I was doing xxx." You ask a lot of questions but you rarely surrender a full analysis or opinion of your own.

On August 23 2011 06:26 hiro protagonist wrote:
btw, I will put up an analysis on xtfftc when I feel like it.


What happened to this?
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