TL Mafia XLIV - Page 2

On August 20 2011 01:09 xtfftc wrote:
Sorry but who/what is Nemesis?

On August 20 2011 01:56 Palmar wrote:


read both posts.

notice the different attitude. He's calling shit stupid and has balls in werewolf and ptp2. He's being super-duper cautious this time around.

READ THEM AGAIN NEMESIS, READ THEM

On August 20 2011 04:22 GreYMisT wrote:
Alright I'm back and caught up, for the most part it seems. some stuff still confuses me though.

Palmar, I think multiple people agree that we are going to need additional reasoning behind your HEAVY aggression on DB. Just because he posted a policy post is simply not enough. He did it in the werewolf game and flipped medic. That being said...

DB, though I agree that a no-lynch must be avoided, I think electing an informal mayor is a terrible idea. the mayor could end up being mafia. Nominating yourself is a little bit odd, as well as supplying the reasoning "and most importantly I am town." This sounds like something someone would say who defiantly isn't town. additional to that is the fact that nominating yourself mayor makes you a very high priority target for the mafia on night1.

Though i disagree with your reasoning and methods palmar, i am inclined to feel a bit wary about DB myself. I look forward to being potentially swayed by your evidence.

On August 20 2011 06:52 BrownBear wrote:


I asked for something of substance and this is what I got?

Oh, you.

Ok, something you've pulled out of my reasoning that really just wasn't there. You're saying I want to lynch someone inactive. Not necessarily true. Implied, maybe, but NOT what I said. Again, you really need to stop putting words in people's mouths.

What I said there, and what anyone who took 5 seconds to think rationally got out of that sentence before you started spewing shit all over it, is that regardless of what I think about DropBear's alignment (and for the record, I think he's more green than not. Scummy, possibly, but not confirmed scum), I want to see people post more. We're on only 17 pages halfway through the first day, which is kind of sad. I want more content. DropBear's providing it.

I'm for lynching any of the semi-actives - that is, the people who are just contributing one liners and sheeping along to do the bare minimum to fly under the radar. Inactives = people who haven't noticed the game's started yet, people in different time zones who are sleeping, or people who don't care about the game. No reason wasting a vote on them - modkills will get them soon enough. The real area where mafia are probably lurking are the semi-actives - the guys who have posted a few times to be able to say "hey, I was here", but haven't contributed anything of substance or worth to the discussion.

That doesn't include DropBear right now. At the very least, he's provoking discussion both about his silly fake-mayor plan, and about whether or not he's red. He's defending himself and providing some alternate ideas. (Although, DropBear, "I will do so if it becomes necessary"? Really? That's not doing you any favors, bro). Right now, my list of semi-actives include: wherebugsgo, hiro protagonist, Foolishness, and JeeJee (when you read his posts, they don't contribute nearly as much as they do ask questions that go unanswered). I'm open to adding more to that list tho.

So let's start talking about those guys! JeeJee is the most suspicious to me right now: He's posted the most, but I see not all that much in his posts... it looks to me as though he's trying to post while not adding anything of value to town discussion. Just a gut feeling, but I still feel a lot better about lynching him than I do DropBear.

Anyway, long story short: You read things out of my post that didn't exist, those things are the entire basis of your case against me, your case against me sucks, gg, try harder.

##Vote: JeeJee

On August 20 2011 23:38 chaos13 wrote:
Let's take a brief look at the sevryn bandwagon. Did it build up quickly? Has there been any noticeable defense that appears flimsy or false or nervous? I don't think he's scum.

On August 19 2011 23:39 Sevryn wrote:
Right now DB is looking the scummiest imo and after what palmar did in Swedish house mafia I am inclined to trust him. That said if there is a good case against anyone else i would be willing to give DropBear another lookskie
## vote DropBear

On August 20 2011 03:41 Sevryn wrote:
That was my whole point I didn't say it was a pressure vote untill after he responded and I took my vote off because palmar has a shitty case and I didn't want people to lynch me because they thought I was just bandwagoning

On August 20 2011 02:46 DropBear wrote:
OK wtf Palmar? I actually don't understand. What is your problem with me exactly? Nearly all of your posts are one liners that are some variation of "Kill DropBear".


The "not safe" post you link included a joke about Harry Potter, a complete throwaway vote on kitaman27 and a joke about sandroba's plans. My first post in this thread advocated forcing people to change their vote, how is that so incredibly safe compared PTP2?

I don't actually understand your case, I will talk to you more if you actually come up with something.

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My posts are 2 pages after the game started. 2 pages. Half the players hadn't even posted yet and most of the ones who did posted nothing other than "/confirm".

How do you expect me to have reads on people before they have even posted, through divination? Time travel?

What's with the random defence of your actions at the end? It's like you know it's a stupid idea, but you're doing it anyway.

On August 21 2011 02:26 Palmar wrote:
chances of sevryn flipping scum: ~0.2%

On August 21 2011 02:31 Palmar wrote:


I'm pretty amazed that you don't see this, because normally your town play is relatively solid and your reads good.