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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 24 2012 00:22 GMT
#3930
On January 24 2012 09:21 Jayjay54 wrote:
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On January 24 2012 09:15 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 24 2012 09:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I meant that if BM flips town, then BC belongs where BM is at on my list because I believe that one of them is scum.

So answer me this. If BM is town how does that make BC scummy? Cause I'm pretty sure the safer bet is if BM is scum so is BC. We have no dead bodyguards. If BM is red and BC is green we would have at least one dead one by now if the body guards are town. The only thing with anycertainty I can get out of this lynch is that whatever BM is BC and his body guards are the same.


if both are scum, why would they switch the bodyguards? There is no benefit. I'd keep them blue and kill one at some point.

Yes. Goes to my point that what BM is BC is most likely as well
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 24 2012 02:13 GMT
#3961
On January 24 2012 09:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 09:15 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 24 2012 09:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I meant that if BM flips town, then BC belongs where BM is at on my list because I believe that one of them is scum.

So answer me this. If BM is town how does that make BC scummy? Cause I'm pretty sure the safer bet is if BM is scum so is BC. We have no dead bodyguards. If BM is red and BC is green we would have at least one dead one by now if the body guards are town. The only thing with anycertainty I can get out of this lynch is that whatever BM is BC and his body guards are the same.


Because I think they're different alignments based on conversations I've had with BC.

Where do you stand on WBG Jackal, now that you're here and talkative?

He hasn't called me useless yet. If I had another bullet I'd shoot him.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 24 2012 10:45 GMT
#4321
Wow. Game is over and I'm alive. That doesn't happen unless I'm scum. GG all.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 24 2012 13:54 GMT
#4326
On January 24 2012 15:14 Slardar wrote:
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On January 24 2012 15:09 Bill Murray wrote:
Losing L was like losing our Bobby Fischer, and living in the land of Caller


Yeah, TSN Turning Point provided by none other than Jackal58. What prompted you to shoot him Jackal?

Proactinium. I read L's filter and realized that in all of his posts he actually said absolutely nothing. Boil it all down and you got "Duh". Incog apparently came to the same conclusion at about the same time I did. I was seriously considering waiting another day but I figured there was a pretty good chance I'd get lynched since I was on the same list he had L on. I also briefly considered shooting VE. But his filter wasn't anything at all like L's. So instead of shooting him I just started calling him scum. If VE was scum he would have a major meltdown around the 3rd time I fos'd him. He never did so I was pretty sure he was town. But it was still fun calling him scum.
I can't believe people still thought I was scum after shooting their Godfather.

Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 24 2012 14:38 GMT
#4329
On January 24 2012 23:34 L wrote:
Annnnd back on hiatus.

You're safe. I only had 1 bullet.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 24 2012 16:36 GMT
#4345
On January 25 2012 01:27 rgTheSchworz wrote:
As scum I think I played quite badly.
Sheth picked up on that.That goes to show sc2 players are not that stupid.

I kept bussing partly because it was inevitable, partly to make cases down the line stronger.

I realize it's not simple to get out of your cell as mafia and go finger random guys.Even if you think like a townie, I felt that there were a few subtleties I couldn't grasp.


Playing scum is hard. Harder than being a townie. You are the hunted. Hiding is next to impossible. That's the reason a lot of first time scum lurk. They think they're hiding. But really the best way to play is to hide in plain sight. Disagree with people. Push cases on town lurkers. Put out your own reads. Even on a teammate. Lie. Lie Lie.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 24 2012 16:48 GMT
#4348
I should probably apologize for posting while drunk but I won't.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 24 2012 17:48 GMT
#4353
On January 25 2012 02:18 EchelonTee wrote:
Well played town. I only had a few hours day to day to read and analyze; I really didn't contribute much but my vote, as my reads were pretty abysmal. I was quite sure sandroba/bm were town D1/2, and the only reads I was sure of were town views on kita, meapak, CC, Adam, etc. Easily enough town gods foolishness/incog/BC destroyed the Mafia.... in big games, if the mafia plays terribad, lowly inexperienced analysts such as myself aren't really needed. I had some posts prepared at various points in the game, but just looking over them I realize that stepping back and letting the town's well oiled machine run was better than mucking up things. I established my own town status decently enough; honestly was trying to look like a lurking blue but ah well.

jayjay's play was really good. he's going to be great sometime.

All in all I had a lot of fun, hope I didn't harm people's experience by low activity levels. was awesome seeing super protown in action.

You were one of the people I wanted to talk to BC about if he masoned me. Along with Opz, Nisani, glurio, BrownBear and Lanaia. I knew Bum was scum the second he suggested I offed my own GF for townie points. Only pissed off scum would say that. I don't think I was even aware munk E was in the game.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 24 2012 23:27 GMT
#4380
On January 25 2012 06:38 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 23:38 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 24 2012 23:34 L wrote:
Annnnd back on hiatus.

You're safe. I only had 1 bullet.

Full retard team is scarier than bullets.

I fell you pain man. Playing scum is hard enough but getting stuck with people that don't care or don't get it is extremely frustrating. Winning as the bad guys requires a team effort.


On January 25 2012 07:17 Ver wrote:
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On January 24 2012 13:51 bumatlarge wrote:
Call me crazy, but this was the last post of a VETERAN PLAYER WHO HAPPENS TO BE A DETECTIVE.

On January 22 2012 06:26 Protactinium wrote:
On January 21 2012 17:33 Foolishness wrote:
Mafia list has to be something like:

Meapak, Munk-E, Bill Murray, evantrees, BrownBear, Kenpachi.

Substitute in glurio, Opz, EchelonTee, vaderseven, Slardar for the ones that flip town.

On January 21 2012 17:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Foolishness amend the list please. I strongly believe atm WBG has a high chance of flipping red.

I would place glurio higher on your list. I also believe that based on play, opz is far more likely to be red.


Disagree here.

I don't see why Meapak is a strong case yet. I'm sticking with

Bill Murray
OpZ
bumatlarge

Don't see wbg either. His play fits his town play more than mafia even if he is wrong a lot.

Then go on to inactives.

I don't think Kenpachi is red based on L's statements suggesting that Kurumi shot Ciryandor. I'm going to guess that L truly did think Kurumi would shoot Kenpachi, and thus didn't roleblock him that night, but it backfired (nobody else claimed the Ciryandor shot). L also was pushing Kenpachi strangely, so it doesn't fit strongly in my book.

evantrees feels town to me for his earlier response to my accusation. It feels pretty spontaneous and unplanned.

Everyone else is fair game.

Bill Murray dies tomorrow, and we vote for double lynch. OpZ and bumatlarge die the next day.


gee i wonder if this should impact who i think is scum...


Missed this earlier but pretty lol. After incog hands the town every mafia its killed and flips detective (even if he is noob dt), he gives a 3/3 mafia list and a bunch of innocents correctly and is immediately double shot afterwards. Instead of just listening to him, town proceeds to ignore it and focus on wild conspiracy theories while the mafia was trying to lynch its own players lol.

Also Hiro your case was quite good. I think it could've been a little more convincing if you had used mafia 48 as additional evidence as well as a game where he was town. Something like pointing out the contrast between sandroba's day 1 and day 2 behavior in both games and showing the incongruence of his play as mafia versus how he plays as town. Basically the thing with cases is that most of the time you have to add in additional reinforcement to convince people that didn't factor in to you making your decision. But your posts were very pro town and I can't conceive how people thought you were suspicious. Probably would've been more optimal to just say cyber was town though and not give his role. That only helps the town.

I had written a 10,000 word essay directed at Ph3nom to try to explain to him why he was wrong. Every other word was "suck" or "fuck" so I just deleted it and went to bed.
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