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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 21 2012 14:11 GMT
#3323
On January 21 2012 13:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Proactinium is scum. If we have any vigs left shoot him.

Drunk Jackal apparently has different reads than sober Jackal.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 21 2012 23:45 GMT
#3391
On January 22 2012 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 03:44 Jitsu wrote:
On January 21 2012 23:11 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 21 2012 13:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Proactinium is scum. If we have any vigs left shoot him.

Drunk Jackal apparently has different reads than sober Jackal.


LOL.

I actually laughed at this line.


Did drunk or sober Jackal take the shot at L?

Sober. You, BC, L and Sandroba were on my short list. I couldn't shoot BC nor do I want to atm. I shot the one I thought I would have the hardest time getting lynched. Drunk Jackal would have shot WBG just for shits and giggles.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 03:57 GMT
#3437
Hey bugs - when were you talking to Sandroba?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 04:11 GMT
#3448
On January 22 2012 13:10 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 13:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 22 2012 13:01 p4NDemik wrote:
Toadesstern he was also wrong on Jackal.


except jackal admits to purposely derping to make sure he got to shoot. He has been his typical self since then for the most part. With his play he should have known that would happen. He was wrong on Kingjames like I was who was arguably the unofficial mafia of the game as the guy was clearly behaving as a mafia would.

Seriously, no one should be hesitating to lynch BM at the moment.

What point are you trying to make? He called his shot right as the clock struck midnight. He is town. What does anything before or after that moment in time have to do with his alignment? He is like 99.9% town. He shot and killed one of the best mafia players on TL.

He's defending Proact putting me on his list. He's not calling me scum.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 04:17 GMT
#3457
On January 22 2012 13:14 p4NDemik wrote:
Moreover he's more defending his previous attacks on you than he is attacking Protact's putting on your list.

I'm sure most here had me leaning red in their own personal lists on day 1. At least a number of people that I have played numerous games with. What bothers me is Foolishness called me town. I put no effort into looking town on day 1.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 04:18 GMT
#3459
What I'm getting at p4NDemik is don't read to much into what BC just said. I understood the context of his post. At least I think I did.

WBG - WHEN WERE YOU TALKING TO SANDROBA???????
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 04:22 GMT
#3466
On January 22 2012 13:19 p4NDemik wrote:
Jackal the important thing is why is BC attacking me just now I actually just helped him a bit.

Because he gets a tad arrogant?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 04:24 GMT
#3468
On January 22 2012 13:21 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 13:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 22 2012 13:12 p4NDemik wrote:
He has no reason to defend Protact putting you on his list. It wouldn't have happened if you guys hadn't coincidentally posted in the same 5 minute window.


As you are trying to discredit the dead man, I would say there is a valid reason.


yeah but I realy don't like you going after protacs list either and I don't like calling the shots right now. You and foolish mislynched into KJ, not sure if protact had a case on him but I do remember yours and foolishs.
You said if KJ flips town that's HUGE amount of information because you pushed the guy hardcore. So what's happening with that information? Do you want to tell me the information is that you're townie because you got a townie lynched or are you agreeing that it looks weird?
Also now you're blindly sheeping. I can understand that you trust the guy but flipping blue does not make him 100% right as p4n and I have already pointed out. 4 ouf of 9 on his list are wrong, 2 out of 9 are right and 3 out of 9 are unclear right now.
You're looking like someone who does not want to be held responsibility because next thing you say is "srysry guys, I just went for the guy that our dead, CONFIRMED DT wanted to lynch. Not my fault at all!".

I am not going to vote BM so easily. I want to hear what he has to say and I want to hear what he did this night.

I am. I'm done listening to him.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 04:50 GMT
#3480
On January 22 2012 13:36 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 13:18 Jackal58 wrote:
What I'm getting at p4NDemik is don't read to much into what BC just said. I understood the context of his post. At least I think I did.

WBG - WHEN WERE YOU TALKING TO SANDROBA???????


quoting to get this up again. What are you talking about? A searched wbg's filter real quick and wasn't able to find what you're referring to. Could you do me a favor and link / quote what you're talking about because from what you say it sounds important :p


You need to start reading everything. I don't want you on my jury.

On January 22 2012 12:03 kitaman27 wrote:
[16:36] <sandroba> hey
[16:36] <kitaman27_> sup
[16:36] <sandroba> who do you plan on supporting for mayor?
[16:36] <sandroba> have you decided yet?
[16:37] <kitaman27_> probably mig, but for pardoner, not mayor
[16:37] <sandroba> how are you going to acomplish that
[16:38] <sandroba> lol
[16:38] <sandroba> every person only has one vote
[16:38] <sandroba> isn't pardoner the runner up?
[16:38] <kitaman27_> heh well syllo told me that mig wants pardoner too
[16:38] <kitaman27_> so we can coordinate so he gets second
[16:38] <kitaman27_> who do you want? Not jimbo I assume?
[16:39] <sandroba> I'm voting mig
[16:39] <sandroba> don't care if pardoner or mayor
[16:39] <sandroba> I was hoping I could elect both
[16:39] <kitaman27_> what about mig makes you want to vote for him?
[16:39] <sandroba> well there is plenty of our shit in the thread already
[16:39] <sandroba> I'm kinda tired of repeating myself over 2000x times
[16:40] <kitaman27_> I saw the reason for syllo. Is it just by association?
[16:40] <sandroba> but basically I have my own reasons to trust him
[16:40] <sandroba> and yes
[16:40] <sandroba> I trust syllo's judgment too
[16:40] <sandroba> as I'm positive he is town
[16:40] <kitaman27_> Do you think jimbo's analysis against you is scum motivated or is he just wrong?
[16:41] <sandroba> man
[16:41] <sandroba> I can't wrap around my head
[16:41] <sandroba> any townie motivations for posting that shit
[16:42] <sandroba> I've argued plenty about it on thread
[16:42] <sandroba> I thought my opinion was clear
[16:42] <kitaman27_> if you had to suggest 1 person to mig to lynch, would it be jimbo? Or is there somebody else?
[16:42] <kitaman27_> *for
[16:42] <sandroba> I'm kinda undecided
[16:42] <sandroba> but leaning chaoser
[16:42] <sandroba> between him and chaoser
[16:43] <sandroba> on the off chance jimbo is town and has an awesome role
[16:43] <kitaman27_> lol chaoser seems to be a popular name from what I've heard
[16:43] <kitaman27_> what about chaoser makes him scummy?
[16:43] <sandroba> plenty
[16:44] <sandroba> the convos we had in skype
[16:44] <sandroba> are pretty damn near impossible to be from a townie perspective
[16:44] <kitaman27_> anything in particular?
[16:44] <sandroba> first
[16:45] <sandroba> let's hear what you think about him
[16:45] <kitaman27_> But I asked first
[16:45] <sandroba> as I can never tell if you are scum or not
[16:45] <kitaman27_> I'm never scum ^_^
[16:45] <sandroba> you sneaky snake
[16:45] <sandroba> you asked plenty already
[16:45] <sandroba> your turn to answer =P
[16:46] <kitaman27_> I've only had one major conversation asking his input about foolishness, where he was extremely careful in the way he responded
[16:46] <sandroba> that's weird
[16:46] <kitaman27_> overall it just seems like he has been unwilling to accuse anybody of anything yet
[16:46] <sandroba> cuz foolishness also thinks he is scum
[16:47] <kitaman27_> I haven't seen signs of him actively scum hunting yet
[16:47] <kitaman27_> lol don't get me started on my chat with foolishness
[16:47] <kitaman27_> strange to say the least
[16:47] <kitaman27_> but not sure if its necessarily scum motivated
[16:47] <kitaman27_> your turn
[16:47] <kitaman27_> why chaoser?
[16:48] <sandroba> I was trying to convince him to step down
[16:48] <sandroba> as you can see in thread
[16:49] <sandroba> and then told him my motives to believe syllo is town
[16:49] <sandroba> he trusted it so much
[16:49] <sandroba> that he deemed it cheating
[16:49] <sandroba> and pm'ed gm about it
[16:49] <sandroba> when gm said that was not cheating
[16:49] <sandroba> he back pedalled and concluded "you must be lying then"
[16:50] <sandroba> I proved to him that running against mig was a bad idea if he was town
[16:50] <sandroba> and he acused me of being heavy handed
[16:50] <kitaman27_> If he really wanted mayor, I would think he would be campaigning way more heavily
[16:50] <sandroba> forcing him to step down
[16:50] <sandroba> that screams of fear to me
[16:50] <kitaman27_> kinda like radfield
[16:50] <sandroba> he later
[16:50] <sandroba> agreed to step down lol
[16:51] <kitaman27_> hmm
[16:51] <sandroba> i have the logs
[16:51] <sandroba> but it's like 10 pages long
[16:52] <kitaman27_> I'll take a look if you wanna pm them to me
[16:52] <sandroba> he is scum though
[16:52] <kitaman27_> I've got nothing better to do
[16:52] <sandroba> k I guess there is no harm
[16:52] <sandroba> even if you are scum
[16:52] <sandroba> =P
[16:52] <sandroba> do you suspect anyone so far?
[16:53] <sandroba> brb that shit is long
[16:53] <kitaman27_> k
[16:53] <kitaman27_> I've been trying to exchange pms with heist and its been really tough to get anything out of him.
[16:53] <sandroba> k sent
[16:53] <kitaman27_> ty :D
[16:54] <sandroba> lol
[16:54] <sandroba> is heist even playing
[16:54] <sandroba> man
[16:54] <kitaman27_> barely -_-
[16:54] <sandroba> too many people are hiding hardcore
[16:54] <sandroba> radfield just had to remind me foolishness was playing
[16:54] <kitaman27_> lol I think there are a couple people who haven't even posted yet
[16:54] <sandroba> so I talked to him the first time today
[16:54] <kitaman27_> how did that go?
[16:54] <sandroba> despite having in on skype lol
[16:55] <sandroba> he basically trolled me
[16:55] <sandroba> and gave me nothing
[16:55] <kitaman27_> -_-
[16:55] <kitaman27_> sounds familiar
[16:56] <sandroba> ...
[16:56] <sandroba> he claims he wants to "survive night one"
[16:56] <sandroba> cool
[16:56] <sandroba> to acomplish what is my question
[16:56] <sandroba> he is pick 25
[16:56] <kitaman27_> its kinda strange that he wants to survive yet doesn't run for mayor, even though he could win it blindfolded
[16:56] <sandroba> if he is townie
[16:57] <sandroba> he will have no cred by day2 =/
[16:57] <sandroba> then even if he does a great job
[16:57] <kitaman27_> I asked him his reasoning for voting mig and he said it was because mig was the smallest threat to town
[16:57] <sandroba> it doesn't matter
[16:57] <sandroba> well
[16:57] <sandroba> if he is voting mig
[16:57] <sandroba> then I don't care right now
[16:58] <kitaman27_> lol well you might be outta luck
[16:58] <kitaman27_> after jimbo's post, he seemed to have changed his mind
[16:58] <sandroba> how come?
[16:58] <sandroba> ...
[16:58] <kitaman27_> he said "Jimbo was the only one who understood how this game works"
[16:58] <kitaman27_> yet didn't really mention anything about you in particular
[16:59] <kitaman27_> He did try to suggest kenpachi has a defensive role at 2, so at least that gives him some town points
[17:01] <kitaman27_> anyways, I'll bbl
[17:01] <kitaman27_> ttyl
[17:01] <sandroba> sorry
[17:01] <sandroba> I was talking to wbg

[17:02] <sandroba> k ttyl then



On January 22 2012 13:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
Jackal, you on crack bro?

I never talked to sandro.

##vote Bill Murray

Also Toad is annoying

Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 04:59 GMT
#3487
On January 22 2012 13:53 kitaman27 wrote:
lolol Jackal.

What did I miss Kita?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 04:59 GMT
#3488
I feel like such a maroon.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 05:09 GMT
#3491
I'm gonna stop playing while I'm drinking.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 05:26 GMT
#3496
On January 22 2012 14:15 Ver wrote:
That was Quiz worthy Jackal lolol

It would have if I had been able to get Bugs lynched because of that.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 05:29 GMT
#3499
On January 22 2012 14:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
LOL Jackal.

At least we know he's town now. I see no way a scum would notice that and then call me out on it, cause it takes a lot of reading just to see it.

Jackal what do you think about lynching BM?

I never moved my vote off of him yesterday.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 05:37 GMT
#3501
On January 22 2012 14:34 evantrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 14:16 Bill Murray wrote:
I got my bomb back from Incognito, but it turns out it would have come back in the end
I am surprised Foolishness and my bodyguards are still alive, a sigh of relief
Now we can focus on what is next - who has a bomb on them

GGQ, sorry mate

OK that's the last straw Bill, for now at least you get my vote.

Mad Hatter
You may lay bombs on one player per night (maximum 2). If you are killed you will throw the switch and detonate them, killing the players (if they aren't protected by extra night lives, paramedics, or bodyguards). You may remove any number of them from players at any time during the night to get them back, but if a player is lynched with one on them while you are still alive you lose that bomb for good. Bombs are refunded if the target is killed during the night.

##vote Bill Murray
@p4NDemik messy but should be full list of people replaced, if you want filters ask.
vaderseven replaced zeks
hiro protagonist replaced Erandorr
jaj22 replaced igabod
26. glurio replaced d3_crescentia
2. Cwave replaced Refallen

now to get to the rest of it.

Who the fuck are you and why are you pointing out a fact as a reason to vote.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 05:42 GMT
#3506
On January 22 2012 14:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 14:37 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 22 2012 14:34 evantrees wrote:
On January 22 2012 14:16 Bill Murray wrote:
I got my bomb back from Incognito, but it turns out it would have come back in the end
I am surprised Foolishness and my bodyguards are still alive, a sigh of relief
Now we can focus on what is next - who has a bomb on them

GGQ, sorry mate

OK that's the last straw Bill, for now at least you get my vote.

Mad Hatter
You may lay bombs on one player per night (maximum 2). If you are killed you will throw the switch and detonate them, killing the players (if they aren't protected by extra night lives, paramedics, or bodyguards). You may remove any number of them from players at any time during the night to get them back, but if a player is lynched with one on them while you are still alive you lose that bomb for good. Bombs are refunded if the target is killed during the night.

##vote Bill Murray
@p4NDemik messy but should be full list of people replaced, if you want filters ask.
vaderseven replaced zeks
hiro protagonist replaced Erandorr
jaj22 replaced igabod
26. glurio replaced d3_crescentia
2. Cwave replaced Refallen

now to get to the rest of it.

Who the fuck are you and why are you pointing out a fact as a reason to vote.


I would say the important point is, based on the OP it suggest you can't move a bomb from player a to b, but only remove it from player a to put on player b at a later point. If thats the case, BM saying "i have a bomb on someone" is a clearly a lie.

He only claimed one bomb planted on Protact. He got that one back and planted the other one he hadn't used yet.
Or my comprehension has gone completely away.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 05:43 GMT
#3507
On January 22 2012 14:40 Toadesstern wrote:
If our beloved sheriff locks up a mafia that one mafia does not count into KP. What happens if we vig a mafia. Does that guy count into mafia KP? I am talking about L and the fact that a vig shot him. Did that reduce Mafia KP?

Are you for real?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 14:09 GMT
#3556
On January 22 2012 22:51 Slardar wrote:
I think after the KingJames debacle, everyone shouldn't be so quick to jump to BC's words. Also now that Protract is dead flipped blue, it makes Foolishness and BC bandwagonning on everything together seem suspicious.

"25 of 40 Town-aligned players remaining
6 of 10 Mafia remaining"

Either way I compare the BM vs BC situation, it is always going to be more deadly that BC is scum, as opposed to BM who probably used his 3 incarcerates at this point and is useless. If we don't get a Mafia and they kill 3 the following night, if BC is scum they have almost 50% of the votes at that point (21 vs 9)

If everyone is so hellbent on killing both BM & BC, why not start with BC first? Longer we wait, the more impossible it's going to be to lynch him and we're getting to a LyLo situation with a fucking wonky mayor. I can't see how that is beneficial.

Also - BM may be an idiot but at least he isn't influencing the discussions or doing much, BC is either awful town with his reads, or brilliant scum leading the town to do whatever the fuck he wants. Either way after yesterday (We lynched a soon to be modkilled dude, and Kingjames) I'm finished listening to him. He is way more disruptive in a town atmosphere than BM will ever be at this point, and deserves to die.

LMFAO
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 14:58 GMT
#3562
On January 22 2012 23:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 23:40 jaj22 wrote:
Although BM lying about the bodyguard(s) also makes sense from a scum perspective, as an attempt to push suspicion away from Sandroba.



based on cwaves comment i can already tell you that bm did not release the correct bg names to them

Have either turned up dead? Or do you not know the names BM passed off?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 15:11 GMT
#3567
On January 23 2012 00:03 supersoft wrote:
4 jayjay

+ Show Spoiler +
[15:02] <supersoft> scumteamtreffen im irc oder wat
[15:02] <Toad|> ist immer so viel los
[15:02] <supersoft> so also
[15:02] <supersoft> gehn wirs mal an
[15:02] <Toad|> nur eran ist neu für mich
[15:02] <supersoft> ääh gib ma deine email
[15:02] <supersoft> dann schick ich dir mal was rüber
[15:02] <Toad|> erik-kalle@freenet.nde
[15:02] <Toad|> @freenet.de
[15:02] <supersoft> damit wir quasi simultan dran abreiten können
[15:04] <supersoft> wer ist denn heute nach alles gestorben
[15:04] <supersoft> ääg
[15:04] <supersoft> icognito+
[15:05] <Toad|> ggq
[15:05] <Toad|> protact
[15:05] <Toad|> scamp
[15:05] <supersoft> ggq
[15:05] <supersoft> k
[15:05] <Toad|> haste mir schon was geschickt?
[15:06] <Toad|> bis jetzt is noch nichts da
[15:06] <supersoft> so jetzt
[15:06] <supersoft> habs grad ein wenig aktualisiert
[15:06] <supersoft> das sind so 3 listen die ich am anfang mal angelegt habe
[15:06] <supersoft> ich wollte die eigentlich immer mit denjenigen durchsprechen die ich gemasoend habe
[15:06] <supersoft> unglücklicherweise
[15:06] <supersoft> habe ich L und sandroba gewählt
[15:07] <supersoft> die zwei waren halt nicht ganz so kooperativ
[15:07] <supersoft> wie ich mir das vorgestellt hatte
[15:07] <supersoft> und beide sind dann auch recht schnell gestorben
[15:07] <supersoft> naja
[15:07] <Toad|> hab immernoch meine probleme VE einzuschätzen
[15:08] <Toad|> bei dem kerl krieg ich so die krise :p
[15:08] <supersoft> ja warte
[15:08] <supersoft> also mein plan ist folgender
[15:08] <supersoft> jeder typ
[15:08] <supersoft> der irgendwie was gutes gemacht hat
[15:08] <supersoft> der wird mal rausgenommen
[15:09] <Toad|> gut wie hat mafia gefunden oder gut wie er posted wie nen townie?
[15:09] <supersoft> ganz genau
[15:09] <supersoft> also
[15:09] <supersoft> wer hat alles irgendwas geclaimed
[15:10] <supersoft> VE war jack oder?
[15:10] <Toad|> hiro / erandorr sind dt und denke confirmed town
[15:10] <supersoft> jitsu glurio und BC sind mason
[15:10] <supersoft> ja
[15:10] <supersoft> hab ich blau in meiner liste
[15:10] <supersoft> hast du sie inzwischen?
[15:10] <Toad|> jojo
[15:11] <supersoft> dann
[15:11] <supersoft> ich hab grad mal alle wieder weiß gemacht
[15:11] <supersoft> außer erandorr und kita
[15:12] <supersoft> kita ist für mich deshalb town,
[15:12] <supersoft> weil am anfang hat er ja als mayor kandidiert
[15:12] <supersoft> und cyriandor hat ihn direkt fertig gemacht
[15:12] <supersoft> und irgendwie geschrieben er will lieber sandroba oder palmar
[15:12] <supersoft> palmar ist town
[15:12] <Toad|> jo
[15:13] <supersoft> und irgendwie war von vornherein nicht absehbar, dass er nicht kandidiert
[15:13] <supersoft> und sandroba war mafia
[15:13] <Toad|> denke auch kita ist town und habe nur mit einem post von ihm nem problem
[15:13] <supersoft> welcher?
[15:13] <Toad|> glaube er hat am anfang in seiner campagne gesagt "ich werde euch keine tipps geben wie man blues spielt und euch nicht sagen dass man als vig nicht d1 schießen soll"
[15:13] <Toad|> sowas in der art
[15:14] <supersoft> ja
[15:14] <supersoft> gut
[15:14] <Toad|> impliziert natürlich ziemlich hart dass er es gerade doch tut
[15:14] <supersoft> das ist halt so geschwätze
[15:14] <Toad|> und gerade mit dem ganzen bluesniping hier
[15:14] <supersoft> das stimmt schon von den masons haben sie noch keinen abgeknallt
[15:14] <supersoft> ist auch klar
[15:14] <supersoft> weil ich gehe stark davon aus,
[15:14] <supersoft> dass ihre masons alle geclaimed haben
[15:14] <supersoft> und wenn sie jetzt die townmasons wegschiessen
[15:15] <supersoft> dann bleiben nur ihre übrig
[15:15] <supersoft> wäre natürlich scheisse
[15:15] <Toad|> jo
[15:15] <Toad|> aber krass wie viele vigs schon down sind
[15:15] <supersoft> deshalb bin ich auch der ansicht, dass mindestens einer von glurio und jitsu mafia ist
[15:15] <Toad|> da versteht jemand was er tut
[15:16] <supersoft> 3 stück ne
[15:16] <supersoft> ähm ach noch was wichtiges
[15:16] <Toad|> glaube
[15:16] <supersoft> hat incognito irgendwelche checks
[15:16] <supersoft> so zwischen die zeilen geschrieben?
[15:17] <Toad|> naja er hat nen paar reads gegeben die er nur wenig begründet hat
[15:17] <supersoft> okay dann egal
[15:17] <supersoft> schau dir mal jayjay an
[15:17] <supersoft> was sagste?
[15:17] <Toad|> jayjay ist klar town imo
[15:18] <supersoft> gut
[15:18] <supersoft> das sehe ich auch so
[15:18] <Toad|> versucht ernsthaft zu helfen, ist wohl neu aber er ist offen mit dem was er sagt
[15:18] <supersoft> p4ndemic
[15:18] <supersoft> (abgesehen davon, dass er sich in mich verliebt hat)
[15:18] <Toad|> p4n wird schon nen bissel komisch. würde eigentlich genau das selbe wie bei jj sagen aber er übertreibt es halt so krass
[15:18] <supersoft> ja
[15:19] <supersoft> nebenbei
[15:19] <Toad|> würde auch town sagen
[15:19] <supersoft> lass uns den log ins forum stellen
[15:19] <supersoft> dann kann jayjay das ganze lesen
[15:19] <supersoft> die andren verstehns nicht
[15:19] <Toad|> jo
[15:19] <supersoft> :D
[15:19] <Toad|> kk
[15:19] <supersoft> ist ganz praktisch
[15:19] <supersoft> so holen wir ihn quasi in unser masonding mit rein
[15:19] <Toad|> :D
[15:20] <supersoft> so weiter
[15:20] <supersoft> WBG
[15:20] <Toad|> ja wbg ist natürlich total kacke für mich^^
[15:20] <Toad|> also da neutral zu bleiben
[15:21] <supersoft> versuch mal objektiv was zu sagen
[15:21] <supersoft> ich hab mir meine gedanken über ihn gemacht
[15:21] <supersoft> :D
[15:21] <supersoft> ich muss dich ja auch ein bisschen testen ;-)
[15:22] <Toad|> also ich denke dass er extrem tunnelt, denkt er sei extrem richtig und generell nicht viel auf andere hört
[15:22] <Toad|> aber das macht er soweit ich weiß als townie auhc
[15:22] <supersoft> jaaa
[15:22] <supersoft> also
[15:22] <supersoft> was wbg macht
[15:22] <Toad|> habe seinen filter gelesen und abgesehen von der tatsache dass er mich so extrem tunnelt nur weil er mir den d1 read auf palmar nicht gegeben hat hab ich nichts gefunden dass ihn als mafia wirken lässt
[15:22] <supersoft> wenn er mafia ist
[15:22] <supersoft> er schleimt sich bei leuten ein
[15:23] <Toad|> jo also wie gesagt, er ist extrem komisch und wenn wir 8 mafias gekriegt haben und nicht mehr weiter wissen hab ich nichts dagegen ihn zu lynchen
[15:23] <Toad|> aber vorher sage ich, dass er town ist
[15:24] <supersoft> also
[15:24] <supersoft> ich hatte eigentlich auch diesen eindruck
[15:25] <supersoft> dass er eher town ist
[15:25] <supersoft> was mir gar nicht gefällt
[15:25] <Toad|> ach da fällt mir gerade ein
[15:25] <Toad|> es gab auch bei ihm eigentlich nur einen post der mir nicht gefallen hat
[15:25] <supersoft> ja
[15:25] <supersoft> der eine in dem er uns drei erwähnt
[15:25] <supersoft> ich schau grad
[15:25] <supersoft> der ist extrem sonderbar
[15:25] <Toad|> irgendwo hat er postet "sandroba hat gemeint 'toad, SS und wbg need to get off my balls'"
[15:25] <Toad|> genau
[15:25] <supersoft> haha schon
[15:26] <supersoft> ich muss nur mal schaun
[15:26] <supersoft> ob er das eher auf dich bezieht
[15:26] <Toad|> wirkt so extrem gekünstelt als ob er unbedingt towncred braucht
[15:26] <supersoft> und meint er selbst wäre in bezug auf dich falsch
[15:26] <supersoft> ja
[15:26] <supersoft> oder so
[15:26] <supersoft> warte
[15:26] <supersoft> es kann sein, dass ers einfach unglücklich formuliert hat
[15:27] <Toad|> ja es stach halt komplett raus für mich
[15:27] <Toad|> er ist 3 tage an meinem hintern und verfolgt mich wie verrückt
[15:27] <Toad|> posted dann plötzlich "ach übrigens das lässt uns 3 gut ausschaun"
[15:27] <Toad|> und macht weiter mit seiner tunnelei gegen mich
[15:27] <supersoft> ja
[15:27] <supersoft> nee
[15:28] <supersoft> das ist schlecht formuliert
[15:28] <supersoft> er bringt das eher so als argument
[15:28] <supersoft> gegen uns
[15:28] <supersoft> als
[15:28] <supersoft> o
[15:28] <Toad|> haste mal nen link?
[15:28] <supersoft> dagegen, dass wir beide mafia sind
[15:28] <supersoft> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=60039&currentpage=All
[15:28] <supersoft> untere 10%
[15:28] <supersoft> der seite
[15:29] <Toad|> wieso klappt ctrl+f nicht mehr 8(
[15:30] <supersoft> ich habs mal gequotet
[15:30] <supersoft> und ihn gefragt
[15:30] <supersoft> wie er das so meint
[15:31] <supersoft> warten wirs mal ab
[15:31] <supersoft> was er darauf antwortet.
[15:31] <supersoft> weiter im text
[15:31] <Toad|> jo
[15:31] <supersoft> risk.nuke
[15:31] <Toad|> also wenn er es echt "gut" meint ist das doof :p
[15:31] <supersoft> was sagste
[15:31] <Toad|> schwer, hatte nen d1 read
[15:31] <Toad|> d1 town read
[15:31] <supersoft> alles klar
[15:31] <Toad|> einfach weil ich nicht glaube, dass nen mafia so ne mayor kampagne bringen würde
[15:32] <supersoft> sehe ich auch so
[15:32] <supersoft> ja
[15:32] <supersoft> risk.nuke ist nicht der hellste
[15:32] <supersoft> aber nichtsdestotrotz krass selbstbewusst
[15:32] <supersoft> irgendwie flacht seine aktivität gerade ziemlich ab
[15:32] <Toad|> jo
[15:32] <supersoft> liegt vielleicht an der größe des spiels
[15:33] <supersoft> er ist wahrscheinich etwas überfordert
[15:33] <Toad|> ab d3 hab ich auch mafia reads gekriegt von im
[15:33] <supersoft> und findet gerade keinen den er tunneln kann
[15:33] <supersoft> jaa muss aber nicht sein
[15:33] <supersoft> ich würde sagen town
[15:33] <supersoft> einfach nutzlos
[15:33] <Toad|> naja das problem an dem d1 read ist halt, dass wenn er echt mafia ist
[15:33] <supersoft> dann wäre er gut
[15:33] <supersoft> :D
[15:33] <Toad|> dann kann genauso gut wer andres ihm gesagt haben was er machen soll
[15:33] <supersoft> nee
[15:34] <supersoft> den käse da hat er selbst fabriziert
[15:34] <supersoft> weil
[15:34] <Toad|> :p
[15:34] <supersoft> es ist ja klar
[15:34] <supersoft> den wählt ja keiner
[15:34] <supersoft> ka warum sollte das scumteam den dann in den krieg schicken
[15:34] <supersoft> wenn er eh nix reißt
[15:34] <supersoft> im prinzip war das wohl irgendwie so ne aktion
[15:34] <Toad|> eben genau um so leute wie dich und mich zu verwirren ;d
[15:34] <supersoft> die keiner außer ihm selbst versteht
[15:34] <supersoft> jaa
[15:34] <Toad|> aber jo denke auch das macht wenig sinn
[15:35] <Toad|> ist halt risiko instant 1 mafia buddy zu verlieren
[15:35] <supersoft> jaa
[15:35] <supersoft> der ist halt einfach so
[15:35] <Toad|> und wenn es klappt hat man nen noob der wie nen townie ausschaut wohoo
[15:35] <supersoft> in electionmafia
[15:35] <supersoft> ist er auch total steil gegangen
[15:35] <supersoft> weil er dachte ich hätte 3 meiner teammates gebusst
[15:36] <supersoft> (wie auch immer man das auf deutsch sagt)
[15:36] <supersoft> "ans messer geliefert"
[15:36] <supersoft> nur um towncred zu bekommen
[15:36] <supersoft> also der knabe
[15:36] <supersoft> ist jenseits von gut und böse
[15:36] <Toad|> ach da das ja auch deutsch ist muss man auch nicht aufpassen wen man hier beleidigt und wen nicht :p
[15:37] <Toad|> außer natürlich jayjay: wenn du das ließt, du bist ganz toll :3
[15:37] <Toad|> aber ja, risk ist townie read für mich, nicht der sicherste aber denke doch dass ich da recht habe
[15:38] <supersoft> ach
[15:38] <supersoft> lese gerade
[15:38] <supersoft> opz is auch mason
[15:38] <Toad|> hast du irgend ne reiheinfolge in der du durch gehst?
[15:38] <Toad|> jo
[15:38] <supersoft> ähm nö
[15:38] <supersoft> ist zufall :D
[15:38] <supersoft> cshlag du den nächsten vor
[15:39] <Toad|> alles lurker oder vets übrig...^^
[15:39] <supersoft> scheisse
[15:39] <Toad|> mit nisani hab ich meine probleme
[15:39] <supersoft> ja
[15:39] <Toad|> was hälst du von ihm?
[15:39] <supersoft> den kann man einfach mal weglynchen
[15:39] <Toad|> also den kann ich halt überhaupt nicht einschätzen
[15:39] <supersoft> keine frage
[15:40] <supersoft> ach
[15:41] <supersoft> du hast da irgendwo geschrieben
[15:41] <supersoft> du wärst blau
[15:41] <Toad|> bin VET
[15:41] <Toad|> wenn du das meinst
[15:41] <supersoft> "I know I'm blue as well"
[15:41] <Toad|> hab ich auch im thread geclaimed
[15:41] <supersoft> k
[15:41] <supersoft> verstehe
[15:41] <supersoft> ach
[15:41] <supersoft> ich komm nicht hinterher
[15:41] <supersoft> mit den ganzen claims
[15:42] <supersoft> we hat denn noch irgendwas geclaimed
[15:42] <Toad|> ja
[15:42] <Toad|> hab mir alle aufgeschrieben bei mir
[15:42] <Toad|> aber kann ctrl+f aus irgend nem grund nicht benutzen sonst würde ich einfach claim suchen 8(
[15:43] <supersoft> jo macht nix
[15:43] <supersoft> okay
[15:43] <supersoft> ähm ja
[15:44] <Toad|> jetzt wirds so langsam schwerer :D
[15:44] <supersoft> wür müssen uns dann wohl ode übel durch die lurker durchqühlen
[15:44] <supersoft> w
[15:44] <supersoft> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=52329
[15:44] <Toad|> lanaia würde ich noch nen townread geben
[15:44] <supersoft> go
[15:44] <supersoft> ja
[15:44] <supersoft> das mädel
[15:44] <supersoft> :D
[15:44] <supersoft> so lustig
[15:44] <supersoft> ich hab in nem andren spiel
[15:44] <Toad|> also die ist halt einfach so wishy-washy
[15:44] <supersoft> JA
[15:44] <supersoft> ist die aber immer!
[15:44] <Toad|> mit wenig selbstvertrauen so wies ausschaut
[15:44] <supersoft> :D
[15:45] <supersoft> jajaja
[15:45] <supersoft> süß
[15:45] <Toad|> aber genau das hat sie auch als town gemacht im XLVIII
[15:45] <supersoft> ich wüsste gerne mal wie sie aussieht
[15:45] <supersoft> bestimmt nix
[15:45] <supersoft> :-/
[15:45] <supersoft> aber okay
[15:45] <supersoft> picks or lynch
[15:45] <supersoft> oder sowas
[15:45] <supersoft> wäre doch mal gut
[15:45] <supersoft> jaj22
[15:45] <Toad|> ?
[15:45] <supersoft> go for it
[15:46] <Toad|> was ist picks or lynch
[15:46] <supersoft> äh
[15:46] <supersoft> ohne k
[15:46] <supersoft> lol
[15:46] <Toad|> soll ich sagen ob ich ihn lynchen will?
[15:46] <supersoft> nein mann
[15:46] <supersoft> :D
[15:46] <supersoft> ich meinte
[15:46] <supersoft> Bilder posten oder lynch
[15:46] <supersoft> in bezug auf lanaia
[15:46] <Toad|> aso
[15:46] <Toad|> 8(
[15:46] <supersoft> dude
[15:47] <Toad|> ja dachte du bist schon bei jaj22
[15:47] <supersoft> nee
[15:47] <supersoft> aber bei dem bin ich jetzt
[15:47] <supersoft> schau mal her
[15:47] <supersoft> was er über sandroba sagt
[15:47] <supersoft> yeah
[15:48] <Toad|> wann hat er eingewechselt?
[15:48] <Toad|> d2?
[15:48] <supersoft> ach
[15:48] <supersoft> für wen ist der eingewechselt?
[15:48] <supersoft> so ein scheiss
[15:48] <supersoft> :D
[15:48] <supersoft> ich dachte schon
[15:48] <supersoft> lolol steigt er einfach mal mit so nem sandroba macpop defense post ein
[15:49] <Toad|> hab grad kein peil für wen er eingestiegen ist
[15:49] <Toad|> warte müsste den post gespeichert haben irgendwo
[15:50] <Toad|> oder auch nicht
[15:50] <supersoft> ja egal
[15:50] <supersoft> jedenfalls
[15:50] <supersoft> defendet er 2 mafialeute
[15:51] <supersoft> und schreibt bei GGQ eine treffende einschätzung
[15:51] <supersoft> ohne jegliche analyse
[15:51] <Toad|> jo
[15:51] <Toad|> das hat dich und wbg aber auch schon dazu gebracht zu denken ich sei mafia :p
[15:52] <Toad|> also ich bin bis jetzt davon ausgegangen, dass jaj22 townie sei
[15:52] <supersoft> sieht aber nicht so aus
[15:52] <supersoft> wenn man seinen filter liest
[15:52] <supersoft> :D
[15:52] <Toad|> also auch als er meinte "@Toad: You know this isn't a majority lynch, right? I don't see any town reason to vote for someone you think is town this early."
[15:52] <Toad|> glaubst du nen mafia würde sowas sagen?
[15:53] <Toad|> die wollen ihre votes doch irgendwo unterbringen und er erinnert mich daran, dass es nicht extended majority ist?
[15:54] <supersoft> äh
[15:54] <supersoft> ja ka
[15:54] <supersoft> warum nicht
[15:55] <supersoft> ist ja nur so allgemeines blabla
[15:55] <supersoft> das geht immer gut
[15:55] <Toad|> auch wahr
[15:55] <supersoft> als ob sich irgendeiner an solche sachen halten würde
[15:55] <supersoft> das ist immer so
[15:55] <supersoft> wenn irgendeiner einen plan macht
[15:55] <supersoft> dann wird der niemals umgesetzt
[15:55] <Toad|> naja er stellt halt viele fragen
[15:56] <Toad|> hat keine angst davor jemanden anzugreifen
[15:56] <supersoft> warte wo
[15:56] <Toad|> naja er sagt zumindest paar mal dass ich schwachsinn poste
[15:57] <supersoft> ja
[15:57] <Toad|> also vonwegen modhunting
[15:57] <supersoft> naja
[15:57] <supersoft> dann warts ab
[15:57] <supersoft> hier wirds ihm auch irgendwann alles zu heiß
[15:57] <supersoft> und er schwenkt um und schlägt auf sandro ein
[15:57] <supersoft> das wars dann aber auch mit der aktivität
[15:57] <supersoft> :D
[15:57] <supersoft> ja
[15:58] <supersoft> was hälst du von orange
[15:58] <supersoft> also so vorstufe von mafia?
[15:58] <Toad|> "
[15:58] <Toad|> What? Toad was trying to protect his scumbuddy GGQ and get his scumbuddies Sandroba and Macpo lynched instead? I don't buy the Palmar lynch influence knowledge point because it's quite plausible that Toad just jumped to a conclusion. I don't think it's even an illogical conclusion from the "compromise" post."
[15:58] <Toad|> nach protacts case gegen mich
[15:58] <Toad|> weil protact meinte ich sei mafia, sandroba sei mafia, ggq sei mafia und macpo sei mafia
[15:58] <Toad|> was halt überhaupt keinen sinn gemacht hat
[15:58] <supersoft> geht
[15:58] <supersoft> lol
[15:59] <Toad|> aber gut orange ist in ordnung
[15:59] <Toad|> gott jetzt muss ich aber wissen für wen er replaced hat 8(
[16:00] <supersoft> ja
[16:00] <supersoft> schon
[16:00] <supersoft> ich bin auch verwirrt
[16:00] <supersoft> zeks?
[16:01] <Toad|> lol
[16:01] <Toad|> beide gleichzeitig gefragt
[16:01] <supersoft> das war dumm :D
[16:01] <supersoft> wobei geht
[16:01] <Toad|> jetzt weiß jeder dass du mich gemasont hast
[16:01] <supersoft> wir posten ja eh den log
[16:01] <Toad|> naja wer dein log gelesen hat hat das auch mitgekriegt
[16:01] <Toad|> naja wer dein log gelesen hat hat das auch mitgekriegt
[16:02] <supersoft> möglich ^_^
[16:02] <supersoft> ich poste den log mal für jayjay in den thread. Vielleicht ist er ja da und kann schon was ergänzend beitragen


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