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On January 15 2012 04:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 04:24 Toadesstern wrote:On January 15 2012 04:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:01 Toadesstern wrote:
and re. I'll be voting BM right now. d1 (like RL-d1) I thought it's the most horrible thing possible but he gives me townvibes.
There's no way I will vote for sandro, bc or bum because I think either 1 or 2 out of them is scum and the mafia out of those is trying to screw with me / us.
I just don't want to vote into that triangle of I-don't-know.
wbg would be an alternative but I've got more of an stubborn-palmar read than a useless-palmar read and I'd like to lynch someone else d1. If possible someone who's not a vet and leave palmar for d2.
Wiggles and kita didn't say a lot lately so although I (somehow) got a townfeeling out of that much nothing I'd much rather vote someone else.
Mattchew and VE a re both town but I'd rather have someone else in that position imo.
Oh and everyone who got no mention either is hard to judge for me or is not worth a mention. Deal with it :p
Still catching up. I'm reading the last 2 pages, I'm eating and I will post a little bit more if needed. I'll take that as me being too awesome for your judgement or something. I'd like to hear from Foolishness now. What made it seem like a good idea to make Mattchew run for mayor, over equally active people she had more history with? Why is she interested in controlling Bill Murray? actually yeah. I have no idea what you're up to at this point in time. I'm going to quote from my sheet: 7. Cyber_Cheese
I haven o idea
no idea at all I tried several times to get something about you going but I never was able to put something into words. You're like THE nullread I have in this game and I don't know why I have so much trouble to figure you out. Want to to me a faver and tell me real fast who you want to lynch and who's the best mayor in your opinion (other than yourself) ? I don't really want to read your filter again right now  Mayor, I honestly have no idea. I was pretty close to going for Mattchew after he explained how he got to choosing Foolishness. I suppose BC doesn't seem like the bad choice people make him out to be, I feel like he's explained his plan enough. Lynch... Probably VisceraEyes or Risk.Nuke, for starting a mayorial campaign and giving up on it.
To clarify the lynch. I want the scummiest person who ran for mayor. I'm just not sure who that is at the moment.
Sandroba seems like a decent option.
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On January 15 2012 04:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 04:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:24 Toadesstern wrote:On January 15 2012 04:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:01 Toadesstern wrote:
and re. I'll be voting BM right now. d1 (like RL-d1) I thought it's the most horrible thing possible but he gives me townvibes.
There's no way I will vote for sandro, bc or bum because I think either 1 or 2 out of them is scum and the mafia out of those is trying to screw with me / us.
I just don't want to vote into that triangle of I-don't-know.
wbg would be an alternative but I've got more of an stubborn-palmar read than a useless-palmar read and I'd like to lynch someone else d1. If possible someone who's not a vet and leave palmar for d2.
Wiggles and kita didn't say a lot lately so although I (somehow) got a townfeeling out of that much nothing I'd much rather vote someone else.
Mattchew and VE a re both town but I'd rather have someone else in that position imo.
Oh and everyone who got no mention either is hard to judge for me or is not worth a mention. Deal with it :p
Still catching up. I'm reading the last 2 pages, I'm eating and I will post a little bit more if needed. I'll take that as me being too awesome for your judgement or something. I'd like to hear from Foolishness now. What made it seem like a good idea to make Mattchew run for mayor, over equally active people she had more history with? Why is she interested in controlling Bill Murray? actually yeah. I have no idea what you're up to at this point in time. I'm going to quote from my sheet: 7. Cyber_Cheese
I haven o idea
no idea at all I tried several times to get something about you going but I never was able to put something into words. You're like THE nullread I have in this game and I don't know why I have so much trouble to figure you out. Want to to me a faver and tell me real fast who you want to lynch and who's the best mayor in your opinion (other than yourself) ? I don't really want to read your filter again right now Mayor, I honestly have no idea. I was pretty close to going for Mattchew after he explained how he got to choosing Foolishness. I suppose BC doesn't seem like the bad choice people make him out to be, I feel like he's explained his plan enough. Lynch... Probably VisceraEyes or Risk.Nuke, for starting a mayorial campaign and giving up on it. To clarify the lynch. I want the scummiest person who ran for mayor. I'm just not sure who that is at the moment. Sandroba seems like a decent option. so that's sandroba for lynch, VE for lynch or risk nuke for lynch and BC for mayor? Or was sandroba another viable option for mayor for you?
Sandroba is definitely an option for lynch.
This was my most recent posted stances on the game.
What's changed since then?
Slardar did nothing. I expected nothing, I feel like there are better lynch choices that I can get better reads on.
BC convinced me he thoroughly believes his plan is good, and outside of the plan/claim I think he's a good candidate.
Sandroba, I'm not sure in particular, I just feel like he didn't nearly put as much effort into his campaign as a townie would have, and I disagree with his stances.
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Oh and VisceraEyes stayed completely dropped out of the mayorial elections, despite learning that at least one person was in fact interested in his campaigning.
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On January 15 2012 04:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
How does that make someone scummy enough to lynch CC? Someone you were going to vote for, how does that make them scummy?
Because when I put myself in your shoes, as a townie I would have recognised that my campaign was still valuable, where as part of a scum team, I would have planned around myself being out of the running, and not needed to resurface it.
For now, I'm going to
##vote: BloodyC0bbler
and see how those other two I would consider perform while I sleep.
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On January 15 2012 05:08 Jayjay54 wrote:
so. does CC die now? :D
Well, obviously, I hope not...
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What sort of vigilante shoots on day 1, without discussion?
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On January 15 2012 05:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
The kind that shoot GFs D1 CC, stfu.
Wrong. The kind that doesn't care if they hit townies or not.
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If it's any consolation, I've taken you off the lynch list, because putting you on it was related to what I would do in your shoes, and failing to understand my own role and vigging on day 1 isn't something I nor anyone I would hold to that standard would do.
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On January 15 2012 05:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
If it's any consolation, I've taken you off the lynch list, because putting you on it was related to what I would do in your shoes, and failing to understand my own role and vigging on day 1 isn't something I nor anyone I would hold to that standard would do.
That, and I know as a scum buddy of yours, there is no way in hell I would have approved that action.
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On January 15 2012 05:31 risk.nuke wrote:
Nothing about this 'don't tell them what you will do', wifom shit matters. If CC is scum they will roleblock VE, if CC is town mafia will still rb VE.
Protip: If you elect me, you don't have to worry about it.
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Can you repost that conversation with added time-stamps?
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A broad question here. VE, risk.nuke and Sandroba. Who is the scummiest candidate and why?
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Am I correct in assuming those time stamps are KST?
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On January 15 2012 06:02 Toadesstern wrote:
could we have an update on how the election is going?
I did one manually
+ Show Spoiler +Votes for MrWiggles (0)
Cyber_Cheese
Votes for Bill Murray (3)
Foolishness
VisceraEyes
bumatlarge
Macpo
Votes for kitaman27 (1)
bumatlarge
evantrees
Bill Murray
Votes for VisceraEyes (1)
blahz0r
Cyber_Cheese
Votes for BloodyC0bbler (7)
Meapak_Ziphh
risk.nuke
Bill Murray
GGQ
zeks
Lanaia
Cyber_Cheese
Foolishness
Votes for Protactinium (3)
Palmar
Adam4167
Kurumi
Votes for Meapak_Ziphh (0)
Jayjay54
Votes for Sandroba (1)
Nisani201
Votes for Mattchew (Void)
Foolishness
jayjay54 (Void)
Scamp (Void)
Votes for Supersoft (1)
Bill Murray
On January 15 2012 06:08 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 06:00 Palmar wrote:
I'm still giving my support to Protactinium, I have no problem with him killing BC if only for how stupid regardless of BC's alignment his claim is. Palmar do I look scummy to you for defending you? I mean I should look scummier for that. Can you tell me what you think the benefits / cons are for just EVERYONE who is Mason claiming now or being revealed by their mason buddy? @Jitsu It wasn't necessarily directed towards you just towards everyone in general. For those who don't have time to read this all VIGS : Jitsu [bl] Mattchew [/bl] Opz BC I'm posting this because I'm sure the mafia have noticed who they are and I wonder if townies have noticed as sometimes they've been hidden in long posts. I just think its ironic that we as town have revealed possibly 4 blues to mafia for very little reason. I feel like Opz's claim + VE revealing you (Jitsu) were useless claims. I understand Matt / BC's claim, and I'd like anyone else who wants to claim to have a reason for it.
Hold up, why are you blue hunting Sheth?
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On January 15 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Okay, the answer: Vote VE for Mayor! Wait did he just say..... YES! VE has retardedly outted himself as a Town Jack by trying to daykill C_C. What an idiot, right? But hear me out. My case on CC is this: He's scummily inconsistent in his posting. Like take this post for example. He states in no uncertain terms that A) he's not going to vote for BC and also B) Palmar must be scum based on Occam's Razor. In this post he encourages me to stay in the mayoral race because he's voting for me. Here, he goes a step further and changes his lynch choice to BC.Wait a minute...he already said he agreed with the case on Palmar...Occam's Razor remember?In this post, he tries to shirk responsibility for Macpo's stance on BC (Macpo very clearly cites CC for changing his view on BC) by claiming it was actually Hydractinum that his post was based on. As town, I'd be flattered if one of my posts changed someone's mind, I certainly wouldn't try to say it was SOMEONE ELSE who actually did the legwork...especially if I'm seeking election! Okay, here's the post. In this post, he not only reverses his stance on BC, but he does so by saying "BC isn't as bad a candidate as everyone is making him out to be." Really? You've been one of his biggest detractors! Your campaign is based on LYNCHING BC! Interestingly, he also puts me on a lynch list....WHILE HIS VOTE FOR MAYOR IS STILL ON ME!!! This is so fucking damning guys. Now his vote is on BC. Now, I'm going to probably be roleblocked and killed tonight...we can avoid this by making me one of the elected officials. If I'm elected mayor, I'll lynch the fuck out of C_C. A Vote For VisceraEyes Is A Vote For Town Victory!!!!
The occams razor thing was to stop the WIFOM, not my personal stance.
When I said I wouldn't vote for BC now in that original post, well right then I wouldn't have, because he felt the need to claim his role. After thinking through the mason plans, I disagreed with it and was willing to lynch him. His continued belief after that his idea was good, and his other townie looking contributions outweighed the doubts I had about him.
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On January 15 2012 06:13 L wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 05:24 Toadesstern wrote:On January 15 2012 05:16 L wrote:On January 15 2012 05:14 Toadesstern wrote:so VE you thought you're a dayvig and in reality you're not? Wtf is going on with this town people. Mass claims, mass fails, blues being modkilled, blue outing they vig-power and bc managed to get town discussing a whole day about pussy-masons. The only thing that could go worse would be Palmar stepping into this thread, threatening X to do Y or else he will dayvig him and X ends up dayvigging Z. Srsly guys wtf is wrong with you tonight Hi there! If you'd like to post in the thread, feel free to add content rather than remarking that things are bad. Watch what I do, okay? VE, Are you going to shoot CC tonight? See? Content! awesome. Let the guy who just claimed vig now claim who he is about to shoot so that mafia does not even have to wifom about if he's going to shoot or not but only has to wifom about VE really is "smart" enough to pull a drazerk on us or not. I mean you just asked a vig (if that's right) who he is about to shoot. I'll repeat it: You are asking a vig who he is about to shootwtf is going on. Someone just made a claim to the strongest town role in the thread. He has multiple avenues to confirm his role if he's not lying. No shit I'm going to ask him if he's going to shoot THE PERSON HE ALREADY TRIED TO SHOOT.
Jack has too many limitations to be the strongest blue role.
On January 15 2012 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Seriously guys this is all hands on deck. I'm very town and I'm very Jack. I need to be mayor.
VOTES ON VE GOGOGO
This isn't me trying to leverage my role to win the election - if I wanted to do that I would have done that already and not called BC out on it right after his claim. This is me trying to keep one of our most powerful roles IN THE GAME. I'm not going to do anymore stupid shit if you elect me.
You aren't seriously demanding to be given more responsibility after trying to day 1 vig?
Use your veteran life and rely on heals.
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On January 15 2012 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 06:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Okay, the answer: Vote VE for Mayor! Wait did he just say..... YES! VE has retardedly outted himself as a Town Jack by trying to daykill C_C. What an idiot, right? But hear me out. My case on CC is this: He's scummily inconsistent in his posting. Like take this post for example. He states in no uncertain terms that A) he's not going to vote for BC and also B) Palmar must be scum based on Occam's Razor. In this post he encourages me to stay in the mayoral race because he's voting for me. Here, he goes a step further and changes his lynch choice to BC.Wait a minute...he already said he agreed with the case on Palmar...Occam's Razor remember?In this post, he tries to shirk responsibility for Macpo's stance on BC (Macpo very clearly cites CC for changing his view on BC) by claiming it was actually Hydractinum that his post was based on. As town, I'd be flattered if one of my posts changed someone's mind, I certainly wouldn't try to say it was SOMEONE ELSE who actually did the legwork...especially if I'm seeking election! Okay, here's the post. In this post, he not only reverses his stance on BC, but he does so by saying "BC isn't as bad a candidate as everyone is making him out to be." Really? You've been one of his biggest detractors! Your campaign is based on LYNCHING BC! Interestingly, he also puts me on a lynch list....WHILE HIS VOTE FOR MAYOR IS STILL ON ME!!! This is so fucking damning guys. Now his vote is on BC. Now, I'm going to probably be roleblocked and killed tonight...we can avoid this by making me one of the elected officials. If I'm elected mayor, I'll lynch the fuck out of C_C. A Vote For VisceraEyes Is A Vote For Town Victory!!!! The occams razor thing was to stop the WIFOM, not my personal stance. When I said I wouldn't vote for BC now in that original post, well right then I wouldn't have, because he felt the need to claim his role. After thinking through the mason plans, I disagreed with it and was willing to lynch him. His continued belief after that his idea was good, and his other townie looking contributions outweighed the doubts I had about him. He hadn't added anything new to the equation that wasn't already in thread when you changed your LYNCH CHOICE TO BC. He repeated the stuff he'd already said...I know, because I was asking him a specific question that he was failing to answer.
Re-read what I said carefully, and then with a straight face tell me what BC said between the time I wasn't going to vote him and the time was willing to lynch him was in any way important.
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On January 15 2012 06:48 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 06:45 Jayjay54 wrote:On January 15 2012 06:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 15 2012 06:31 Palmar wrote:On January 15 2012 06:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I herped HARD. Business as usual. I'll take your being a jerk to me to be indicative of your alignment, since you're not providing anything else for me to base it on. What do you think of my case on CC? What case? There's hardly any case. This is almost OMGUS. You were BFF and then he called you lynch candidate, all of a sudden you're like, DAYKILL. I didn't really get it. Or did I miss something. We were never BFF...he attempted to buddy me by telling me not to drop out of the race. Did you read my case? Do you disagree with my points? Now he's trying to discredit my case, not by refuting the points but by calling me an idiot and acting incredulous about my reinserting myself into the mayoral race. If you disagree with the case that's fine, but don't call it OMGUS...that's very NOT the case.
If I were scum buddying up to you, why would I completely change my mind?
On January 15 2012 00:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Would like to vote for
VisceraEyes currently has my vote. This is more because I want him to stick in the running and see what his next move is more than anything.
Your next move was staying out of the election. It was pathetic and scummy, so I decided you were a good lynch candidate.
I suppose I should dismiss the rest of your accusations...
On January 15 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:In this post, he tries to shirk responsibility for Macpo's stance on BC (Macpo very clearly cites CC for changing his view on BC) by claiming it was actually Hydractinum that his post was based on. As town, I'd be flattered if one of my posts changed someone's mind, I certainly wouldn't try to say it was SOMEONE ELSE who actually did the legwork...especially if I'm seeking election! Okay, here's the post. In this post, he not only reverses his stance on BC, but he does so by saying "BC isn't as bad a candidate as everyone is making him out to be." Really? You've been one of his biggest detractors! Your campaign is based on LYNCHING BC! Interestingly, he also puts me on a lynch list....WHILE HIS VOTE FOR MAYOR IS STILL ON ME!!! This is so fucking damning guys. Now his vote is on BC. Now, I'm going to probably be roleblocked and killed tonight...we can avoid this by making me one of the elected officials. If I'm elected mayor, I'll lynch the fuck out of C_C. A Vote For VisceraEyes Is A Vote For Town Victory!!!!
WHAT? HOW DARE HE RECOGNISE THAT HE WASNT FIRST?
What sort of scum would be man enough to admit that an idea wasn't original if it was giving them town cred?
And OMG HE DIDNT CHANGE HIS VOTE STRAIGHT AWAY EVEN THOUGH HE HAD MANY HOURS LEFT IN THE DAY?!
Do you have any other OMGUS I should dismiss?
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On January 15 2012 07:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
I wanted to kill C_C to get people OFF of BC because WE HAVE TO CONFIRM HIS ALIGNMENT AND THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE IF HE'S MAYOR!!! I don't know what's so hard to understand about this - C_C was a strategic choice that was thrown off by my misunderstanding my role. The last game I was in had Jacks and I assumed (like a boss) that they were the same. They obviously are not.
Protip: If you want to prove someones alignment, lynching someone else rarely if ever helps.
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