EPTTL Mafia XLIII - Page 2
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On August 03 2011 04:25 OriginalName wrote: Role fishing more? I also want to call out Drazerk. He votes RedFF1 for shoddy reasoning and then disappears off the face of the earth. Also YM that quick jump onto Red was also kinda suspicous (ie one-liner + vote) and seems like your trying to start a really early bandwagon. Care to explain? Unless I'm misunderstanding Varpulis he was opposed to the plan in the first place so why would he ask for an open claim? | ||
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On August 03 2011 04:49 Lucidity wrote: Lol dude wtf? I'm struggling to find any non-scum motive for wanting such a claim. Could you provide me with one? And you're focused on maintaining your appearance as an active townie instead of hunting scum? Good stuff. Mig's going crazy at people for not providing great posts on IRC, yet he's not doing what he's hounding others to do? Scum often employ such strategies. What's the dealio, yo? hey aren't you the one that was supporting this plan the most lol why are you taking the easy call out on varpulis for rolefishing when you were basically asking for the same thing lmfao | ||
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On August 03 2011 04:53 Mig wrote: I have a pretty simple defense. People should actually read my posts. Where have I backed down after putting pressure on people? What mafia objectives have I pushed? Look at the questions I asked varp and JeeJee. Was I trying to slander them or cast suspicion on them to look like I was fake contributing? Or was I asking legitimate questions that the town should be asking. The town has almost no activity and I am actively trying to get people to post in IRC. What a scummy thing for me to do! I have pmd half the people in town asking them for their opinions. And I have no problem with giving my opinions on people. No one has to force me to contribute. So just ask yourself if my play is helping the town or helping mafia. If you think I am helping mafia feel free to lynch me. youre asking everyone to contribute but you aren't contributing anything except bad arguments in irc | ||
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On August 03 2011 04:56 Mig wrote: Feel free to find someone who has contributed more than I have in the thread. me | ||
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Look. The most LIKELY scenario (not 100% but very likely) is that we lynch a town and the dayvig kills a town. MAfia can afford to waste the KP to stack on the dayvig because they come out pretty ahead in this situation. Mafia gain: 3 town deaths A broken town circle wasting the day 1 discussion on the dayvig plan town loses: 1 KP to use later 3 townies So the dayvig should lay low and use his KP when we have a good idea about who the mafia team is. A solid DT check later in the game, etc. If there are double lynches in this game (idr if there are) we have the potential to kill 3 mafia in a day, dayvig is so strong later in the game. mig and syllogism are trying to make it sound like it doesn't matter WHEN the dayvig uses his shot and that's shockingly bad play. Mig has been playing for a while he's not this dumb. IDK who syllogism is so i could figure this is his first game and he just has no idea what he's doing but he's being so antagonistic to me in irc that i bet he's mafia, my votes on him becuase syllog/mig are saying the same shit without directly acknolweding eachother much and it's all anti town | ||
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On August 03 2011 05:10 Lucidity wrote: Where was I asking for public role claims? "lmao" And I think you're mistaking my criticism of bad reasons to shut down the plan as support. Like I mentioned earlier, I was operating under the wrong assumption of mass blues. We likely don't have that many so the plan isn't as sexy as I initially thought it was. While there are valid reasons to oppose the plan, some people were presenting atrocious ones seemingly for the sole reason of stopping it - whether there was merit to it or not. the dayvig plan is a public roleclaim plan. i didn't see the post where you redacted your support so my bad im not paying as much attention to the thread as I really should i've been busy . | ||
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On August 03 2011 05:12 Lucidity wrote: YM and others: Can you please stop going on about a mass roleclaim TO A CONFIRMED TOWNIE being a bad thing? It's getting tiresome. it is bad considering the circumstances. the confirmed townie isn't safe and it is at the expense of wasting a KP. Like I said, the mafia will simply kill this confirmed townie with a stacked hit, it's totally worth it from a mafia perspective. This is very different from a pair of masons, or something like that. | ||
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On August 03 2011 05:24 OriginalName wrote: Then lets start disscussing lynch options. I like Varpulis for the D1 lynch. Im going to read up on Mig afterwords. Varpulis: -Wishy-washy -Rolefishing ESPECIALLY under the circumstances of this role-fish. -Says hes going to PM lurkers to try to maintain activity, decides to back down from it. -His first game post is really generic wanting to contribute without really contributing general advice post. He also puts a picture of a BLU engineer as if hes trying to establish his innocence. -Defends himself with Meta instead of hard facts. Yeah, I hated his first day post. I'd be down with lynching Varpulis Day 1, his posts are long but basically say nothing at all and he is wishy washy as hell. This might just be that he is a bad townie because he did say this fits his town meta? I've never played with him before in my memory so I don't know. I like syllogism. He's parroting mig_ without directly acknowleding him and as soon as I called him out he sent me a PM that came off as a big attempt to diffuse my aggression toward him when he was being antagonistic to me before. Now that I'm actually voting for him maybe he's sweating. [quote]Original Mesage From DoctorHelvetica: weird why didn't you mention that before then [quote]Original Message From syllogism: The only reason I pmed you was because I felt bad about you quitting the game for such a trivial reason and really thought you were upset about it [quote]Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: what was the point [quote]Original Message From syllogism: That wasn't the intention, why would it be [quote]Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: ok this pm did nothing for you [quote]Original Message From syllogism: Well you were being antagonistic too =P [quote]Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: its a bad plan because the mafia will kill the dayvig, that's the best action at night 1 for them considering there are probably already 2 dead townies if the plan goes through the mafia know that. this isn't a mason role, there is no way to do it in secret thats why its bad. we aren't going to win this game through a mass claim plan, it isn't designed for that to really be a possibility i'm ma dbecause you were being antagonistic and calling me stupid and then twisting my argument and making it sound like im saying things im not lol [quote]Original Message From syllogism: I fully understand your point and in fact as you can see in the thread I've stated I believe it's better to wait until later for the mass claim, precisely due to the lack of information (things might have been different if the thread was more active). However, simply saying it's a bad plan because the vig will always be more accurate later isn't sufficient as there are other things that have to be taken into account; for instance the likelihood of the vig dying and the effect of postponing the information gained from mass claim until a later date. I don't know why you get so mad about this.[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote] | ||
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On August 03 2011 05:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Yeah, I hated his first day post. I'd be down with lynching Varpulis Day 1, his posts are long but basically say nothing at all and he is wishy washy as hell. This might just be that he is a bad townie because he did say this fits his town meta? I've never played with him before in my memory so I don't know. I like syllogism. He's parroting mig_ without directly acknowleding him and as soon as I called him out he sent me a PM that came off as a big attempt to diffuse my aggression toward him when he was being antagonistic to me before. Now that I'm actually voting for him maybe he's sweating. | ||
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