EPT2 blues and 2 reds.
Looks like we need to do some serious thinking.
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
2 blues and 2 reds. Looks like we need to do some serious thinking. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 07 2011 13:06 iGrok wrote: Well. 2 blues and 2 reds. Looks like we need to do some serious thinking. Whats do you think of treadmill? | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On June 07 2011 13:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Thank you Varpulis <3 | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
I'm thinking about him and a couple other people. Once I make the connections (or fail to), I'll let you know. | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
Hey look! rookie44 was a blue! What a surprise! I'm gonna point out that I totally called that. But not to brag - if I saw it, someone in the mafia probably suspected him of being blue too. In fact it's a little more obvious to them cause they could rule out rookie being red. So i'm even more convinced that the mafia managed to swing that lynch. I'm pretty comfortable saying that Senj, amazingxkcd, and Kurumi are mafia. To a more experienced player (iGrok or Vain preferably) what would you think of out vigi's shooting at them tonight? I'm maybe 80 or 90% sure, but I'd want someone with more experience to comment. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On June 07 2011 13:16 Treadmill wrote: I'm pretty comfortable saying that Senj, amazingxkcd, and Kurumi are mafia. To a more experienced player (iGrok or Vain preferably) what would you think of out vigi's shooting at them tonight? I'm maybe 80 or 90% sure, but I'd want someone with more experience to comment. While I'm thinking I want to voice in on this - Ordinarily, using vigis early is a bad idea. But, we got hit hard tonight, and since we're probably out of medics (there may be 1 more), we may need to shoot tonight to cut down KP even more. -___- | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 07 2011 13:16 Treadmill wrote: 2 mafia getting modkilled is nice, means they're down to 3 KP. On the other hand, we're probably out of medics. Which means the mafia gets to kill pretty much whoever they want. Hey look! rookie44 was a blue! What a surprise! I'm gonna point out that I totally called that. But not to brag - if I saw it, someone in the mafia probably suspected him of being blue too. In fact it's a little more obvious to them cause they could rule out rookie being red. So i'm even more convinced that the mafia managed to swing that lynch. I'm pretty comfortable saying that Senj, amazingxkcd, and Kurumi are mafia. To a more experienced player (iGrok or Vain preferably) what would you think of out vigi's shooting at them tonight? I'm maybe 80 or 90% sure, but I'd want someone with more experience to comment. Kurumi was hard on lafali right from the beginning, I seriously doubt he is mafia; there was absolutely no need to for Kurumi to push for lafali lynch so soon. The other two are reasonable choices, xkcd more so than senj from what I've seen. I don't think it's certain enough to call for a vig shot yet though. Better to save them another night at least. | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On June 07 2011 13:18 Lafali wrote: ##Vote Rookie44 So sorry if I was late, I was out tonight. which increases my suspicion that rookie's lynch was scum-motivated. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
TheKK didn't post at all and so he gives us absolutely no information. Perhaps the best information that we can get out of this is to examine people's responses to Kurumi's pressure on lafali. I leave that as an exercise for the newbies for now  . Look at how people respond to lafali's post and who voted for lafali and who defended lafali. But don't just look at that; look also at why and how they defended him.If dts are looking for targets to examine, I'd suggest jimbooo, amazingxkcd, drazerk, and Vain. Make your own choices, of course, but these are people i have suspicions towards. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On June 07 2011 09:35 Treadmill wrote: Another interesting point: Jackal58 makes his case against rookie44, it's pretty weak, the people posting aren't convinced. Nobody but him votes for rookie44. Then an hour later Look at the time stamps, within 3 minutes of each other. And none of them posted for 2 hours previous to bandwagonning rookie. It looks liek co-ordination. Also check Senj, for the bandwagoning on Rookie. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
I'd like to kind of make this a public discussion, because my thought process tends to go in fits and starts. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MyQYE.jpg) Pardon the bad handwriting. Analysis to come | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
Oh, and I'm sure there are arrows missing, those are just the ones I could remember off the top of my head. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
Everything he's done has been in the right. Everything. When it was unpopular, he stood by his ideas. He's defended those he felt were wrongly accused, and and accused those he felt were guilty. IMO, Treadmill is Town. | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
On June 07 2011 13:19 iGrok wrote: While I'm thinking I want to voice in on this - Ordinarily, using vigis early is a bad idea. But, we got hit hard tonight, and since we're probably out of medics (there may be 1 more), we may need to shoot tonight to cut down KP even more. -___- Absolutely a scum post... Why do we need to hit hard? We really don't. We lose two medics who honestly are mostly passive powers and not useful until DT's make themselves known (one way or another). And mafia only has 3kp. To me iGrok is beyond a doubt scum. I'll repeat my post on Senj of his first 4 posts: first post defending freeloaderfirst post he defends freeloader second post defending igrok shifting blame to people accusing freeloader bandwagoning against rookie (actually voting this time) defending iGrok, it further reinforces my suspicion of iGrok. Additionally, the kurumi, amazingxkcd, and senj nearly simultaneously voting for rookie is pretty solid that they are all scum. I'll also throw out there that given that there were 7 active mafia (thekk said nothing at all), it was possible for them to pick up on any little accusation and turn it into a lynch if they all voted together. Everyone who ended up voting for Rookie is now under suspicion. I'll go through them later when I wake up (and assuming i'm not mafia killed before then) | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On June 07 2011 13:49 iGrok wrote: Jackal's push to lynch rookie came out of fucking nowhere, and gathered way too much steam. I thought about reasons why he would do that, and one possible reason is that he was drawing attention from freeloader. I'm not certain of course, but it would be a good play, particularly if Jackal is the Godfather and was worried about losing KP due to inactivity & the lynch. Oh, and I'm sure there are arrows missing, those are just the ones I could remember off the top of my head. I'm not convinced that Jackal is scum. He advocated for Rookie's lynch, yes, but all day one everyone was advocated to lynch a different person. What I suspect is that the mafia saw it and jumped on it as an opportunity, about an hour later: On June 07 2011 09:35 Treadmill wrote: Another interesting point: Jackal58 makes his case against rookie44, it's pretty weak, the people posting aren't convinced. Nobody but him votes for rookie44. Then an hour later Look at the time stamps, within 3 minutes of each other. And none of them posted for 2 hours previous to bandwagonning rookie. It looks liek co-ordination. when [b]Senj, amazingxkcd, and Kurumi all vote for rookie at the same time. It's the main reason I think all three are scum. On June 07 2011 14:00 iGrok wrote: One thing I notice now is that Treadmill has the most arrows. Treadmill, you are an interesting person... Everything he's done has been in the right. Everything. When it was unpopular, he stood by his ideas. He's defended those he felt were wrongly accused, and and accused those he felt were guilty. IMO, Treadmill is Town. Aww, <3. | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On June 07 2011 14:18 Treadmill wrote: I'm not convinced that Jackal is scum. He advocated for Rookie's lynch, yes, but all day one everyone was advocated to lynch a different person. What I suspect is that the mafia saw it and jumped on it as an opportunity, about an hour later: when [b]Senj, amazingxkcd, and Kurumi all vote for rookie at the same time. It's the main reason I think all three are scum. Aww, <3. You haven't addressed what I said about Kurumi attack lafali almost immediately in the day. Why would he do that if they are both mafia? | ||
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CjrNinja
Australia223 Posts
Senj and amazingxkcd must die asap. I'm not so sure about Kumuri's alignment though... he pushed hard against lafali at the start, as GGQ pointed out. I don't know what to make of Jackal... I'm waiting on Drazerk to post some analysis so I can get a better read on him. Right now he's pretty suspicious. I've rethought my post regarding jimbooo and I definitely think more attention should be paid to him. Freeloader I don't know what the hell you are anymore. Nice job Treadmill. This guy is green ^^ We did lose two medics though T.T, is it unlikely that we get more than 2 in a game? @Pyo Can you elaborate as to why iGrok is definitely scum? Does this post + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2011 19:20 Pyo wrote: Well haiku girl, In no particular order: 1. Your haikus 2. Your heroic let me break down the game for you all post, which is clearly an attempt to make it seem like you know what you're doing, yet you still did #1, revealing that you're just a self-important douche (note that gtrsrs interprets this as you being scum) 3. Your passive-aggressiveness ("don't call me Haiku boy again") 4. Your not-so-passive aggressiveness (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227500¤tpage=10#187) 5. You like to think that you are a pro chastising others for not reading the thread (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227500¤tpage=12#232), but haven't even read the rules yourself (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227500¤tpage=10#196) 6. Red hurts my eyes (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227500¤tpage=18#342) 7. "For science" - Athene is a douche, and so are you for quoting him (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227500¤tpage=19#365) 8. Your triangle picture. 9. And then there's your whole exchange with gtrsrs, which needs no real explanation I suppose that there might be a little overlap in that list. I don't really know whether you're scum or not, but as I said in a previous post I'm picking one of a random bickering between two players (you and gtrsrs) and he's a lot less grating and - for now at least - appears more emotionally stable (less likely to give a tell after prodding). I'll leave it everyone else to judge your response to a more pressure/attention on you. | ||
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CjrNinja
Australia223 Posts
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