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I also think that I'm pretty green-looking right now. I claimed townie before Varp who claimed the same thing, and he flipped town, so unless I'm scum and got the same text as in the OP and decided to take the risk of claiming townie and hoping the town PM was the same as the OP for no particular reason, I think town can trust me to be green. As for the lynch today. I'm trusting San/Ace more right now, but I'm trying to figure out who the best target would be. I'm thinking maybe BB. The reason for this is he has looked very scummy for quite a while, but beyond that, he is scum independent of Ace/San and Jackal. If we want to go after Jackal, then we need to make the judgment call that Ace/San are town for sure. That would make them town, and at least one of Imp/Eii/Jackal/BB town as well. The other three (maybe two, but I'm going to assume higher numbers) would then be mafia. If Ace/San are scum, then three of Imp/Eii/Jackal/BB are town, and one is scum. So, if Ace/San are town, we have a mafia-rich pool of lynch candidates to assure the win, if they're scum, then there's only one more mafia in that group. So, what I think, is that we should lynch BB, because I believe him to be the common link between both possibilities, regardless of the alignment of anyone else. Here's how it would play out: Lynch BB, flips scum 4 town, 2 mafia Mafia hits 3 town, 2 mafia So, the night will give us information, depending on who gets hit. In the morning, we'll still be in MYLO, but the numbers will be reduced and town should hopefully be able to figure out who's who better. I'll fully expect one of Eiii/Imp/myself to die though, so it will be up to the one remaining green to figure out whether to side with San/Ace, or with Jackal and whoever. However, you should be able to figure out just by the voting patterns on that day, what's happening. You know you're green. You know there's either two blues alive, or two greens alive. Whether San/Ace are red/blue, they're likely to vote together that day. However, the other two players shouldn't be voting together right away. So, watch very closely how they act. If San/Ace are red, then the other players should be going through the same thought processes as you and trying to figure out who's red or not. However, if it seems like they know what they're doing, and they band together right away without going through these thought processes, then they're probably red. If it comes down to two groups of people trying to convince you to lynch each other, then I'd be more likely to side with Ace/San. They know what each other are regardless of alignment. Jackal+1 do not however, so it would seem odd if they had that amount of coordination without any of the back and forth that would be expected if they were green, and might be indicative that they're red. So there's my plan. Lynch BB, and try to figure out who's who tomorrow, when there's more information. Right now I'm leaning that San/Ace are town, and that Eiii is another mafia, probably with Jackal. Then it's up to the last town tomorrow to figure out who to side with, with my advice on how to do it. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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2) Ace has claimed a role, but I really haven't seen much information besides "Lol I'm Undercover Agent I shot GGQ he's scum love me guys" (And if you shot GGQ, where's the other night kill? Where is it? WHERE?) 3) Ace has claimed a role that to me seems rather broken and overpowered. Night shot plus the ability to read part of the sleeper cell messages? Color me skeptical. 2) San claimed Vet 3) Apparently the un-NK-able role existed, so I'm not going to put this one past being real because of how weird it seemed. I also didn't pay attention to BB's list, because it was BS, and I knew it was BS. It was drawn entirely from "breadcrumbs", and when he's trying to link me in with them, when I know I'm green, it makes the whole thing look wrong. I don't trust it anymore, because if that part of it was wrong, what assurance do I have that the rest of it was right, when that's all he seemed to be drawing it on? Also, the reason Ace is alive for the last night, is that if they killed him, and he flipped town, we'd have a "confirmed" town in San. First night, he wasn't doing anything, so they killed someone else. Second night, they supposedly hit San for some reason. Not too far of a stretch to consider that he's alive except for what happened on N2, and that still relates to his blue claim. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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On May 03 2011 12:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Roleclaim time: HONEST CITIZEN: You are a peaceful citizen of Liquidville. How could a terrorist cell ever appear in your town?! Your goal is to survive and help town discover and kill the Sleeper Cell. You have a single vote by day. And before anyone stirs up stuff, yes it is the same as in the OP. However, there's a major difference. The name isn't coloured in any way. On May 03 2011 12:39 VarpuliS wrote: are we roleclaiming now? Cool. Notice how it's exactly the same as in the OP, sans the the green and the bold. From the OP: | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/V15TX.png) MR. WIGGLES looked at the town assembled before him in the small apartment. These were the last of his once peaceful town, and he knew at least half of them were terrorist scum. Sandroba and Ace shouted out, "You can trust us, we're working for the government!", while Impervious and Brownbear looked at them in disdain, shaking their heads and yelling, "Don't believe them, we're the true townies here!". MR. WIGGLES looked at both groups, and then at Eiii who lay comatose on the floor, and Jackal who stood forgotten in a corner. "HOW CAN I TRUST ANY OF YOU?" MR. WIGGLES boomed, "HOW DO I KNOW YOU AREN'T ALL SLEEPER AGENTS?". Not taken aback by his paranoia, they all renewed their verbal efforts to persuade MR. WIGGLES, but to no effect. "SILENCE", MR. WIGGLES said, his voice becoming low, "I CANNOT TRUST THE INNOCENCE OF ANY OF YOU, AND I CANNOT ALLOW ANY SLEEPER AGENTS TO SURVIVE TO WREAK HAVOC. THEREFORE, YOU MUST ALL DIE, FOR FREEDOM, FOR JUSTICE, FOR AMERICA!". With that, MR. WIGGLES raised his open hand, now shining brightly with the power coursing through him. Some tried to run, while others tried to attack MR. WIGGLES, but it was hopeless. As they were lifted from the ground they screamed and struggled, trying to find some way to escape their fates, before MR. WIGGLES clenched his fist and the men before him disintegrated into fine red mist. "IT APPEARS MY WORK HERE IS DONE", and with that, MR. WIGGLES exited the room, entered his vehicle, and drove off into the sunset and the new adventures that awaited him. He was excited, for while sacrifices needed to be made, he could rest assured, that Liquidville was finally safe. Ace is dead Brownbear is dead Eiii is dead Sandroba is dead Jackal58 is dead Impervious is dead MR. WIGGLES wins! | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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Thanks to the hosts for hosting, I had a lot of fun. Hopefully if we try again, there'll be less modkills, but it was still amusing. Thanks! | ||
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On May 08 2011 03:52 Ace wrote: I thought when I told you "I hope you die" that was clear enough :D If you thought it was a bus should have pointed it out. Just an FYI as something I do when I play scum, since it's done on purpose to deal with people that play town by vote and motive checking. When I'm scum and you should try it when you're Scum - get your team on different "sides" of the town. This game it seemed like myself and sandroba were "allied" to Wiggles at one point, in agreement with Impervious later on, and never in agreement with bum or Jackal. This is a simplified example since the game was much more fluid than I suggest but I hope you get the point. As town one of the best ways of catching Scum is grouping people based on what they agree on. Which is why sometimes you'll hear me say something about generating discussion like policy lynch or believing someone's claim. Once this happens then you can make sure that people's votes follow what they said. Then it also becomes easier to look at motives. For example: If bum and Jackal largely agree on bum's claim, then Jackal votes for bum, or doesn't vote for someone who disagrees with bum that doesn't have a good reason to then Jackal "stands out". As scum this is why it's helpful to get multiple players on different sides especially when they can argue: In the event someone gets caught in the "wrong group" if their motives and reasoning match their votes they just appear to be a townie that made a wrong play. All in all THIS is why of all the things in the game the one thing no one can argue about is where they placed their vote. If you're town and you have extra information then use this to pin Scum. If you're Scum before you vote just make sure your reasoning holds up. If the town has Vigilantes that look to votes or likes to hunt by eliminating players in a group you'll be sorry. That's good advice, thanks. I need to practice scum-hunting, because like I said, I haven't been town for long in a game for months it seems, I'm pretty rusty. :p | ||
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