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ilovejohn can be put on hold. We have better lynches to take care of.
Also, there were two townies with alternate win conditions already, as unlikely as it may seem, there might be a fourth-day village idiot. I mean, I did do a troll post about that sort of thing when LSB was making the roles, so it's possible.
Anyways, I think that Amber[light] and Kenpachi should be killed. Coag, are you on board with killing off of Bum's list? Also, bum, do you have any thoughts on who we should vote into the arena?
Pandain still hasn't said why he voted BB, and I won't accept "Because I wanted to dual Insanious" as an answer. He could have done that yesterday. Pandain, you've been rather quiet since you first got in. Why aren't you contributing/posting? If you didn't have time to do this in RL, you wouldn't have signed up as a replacement, so why so little activity?
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Because he's not confirmed scum? Sorry, it's possible that I missed something. I'll re-read.
My point was that we have more analysis on Kenpachi and Amberlight, so we should kill them.
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On April 03 2011 09:56 ilovejonn wrote:
true that.
Right, so I move that we don't lynch him on grounds that he is either breaking his play to win condition, or he trying to get himself killed as part of his win condition.
If we do NOT lynch him, he'll get mod-killed if he is scum(for playing against his win condition), and he'll not win if it IS part of an alternative win condition.
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Insanious and Pandain, who are you voting in?
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There's one critical piece wrong with your embeded videos ON. They stop when you refresh. At the rate I'm refreshing, I can't hear more than the first bar.
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Right, so obviously it's at your discretion as to what you say, but in regards to night actions:
Who was roleblocked?
CubEdIn, you're a DT, right? Who did you check?
Jackal, did you already post your check?
There were two DT like items in the IG, Coag, did you check anyone?
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Link to Analysis Analyers read: Confirmation of read
Eii by Meapak Scum: 90% sure it’s incorrect
Amber[light] by Meapak Scum: Unconfirmed
BrownBear by Meapak Green: Correct
Annul by meapak Scum: Incorrect
Kenpachi by kavdragon ScumUnconfirmed
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200702¤tpage=163#3243］ Beneather by Meapak[/url] Townie: Unconfirmed
Huh. Meapak played me like a fool. Guess I'm a sucker for analysis. w/e. Back to work. This list is all of the GF's analyses. There's wifom in there, but i think it's still worth looking into. Beneather got voted in. Was beneather voted in, or was he the default because no votes were sent in?
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On April 03 2011 16:27 Kenpachi wrote:
Yo Jonn. lets go down together.
##suicide
Good Bye. Kavdragon
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/hsVkQ.jpg)
Seriously? Did you even analyse me, or is this a gut feeling? Fail.
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GAH. I wanted to sleep now, but doesn't look like I'll have that luxury. LSB, stay away for a while please. I'll try to get out my last drop before he get's back.
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Looks like I'm not long for this world, so here's my last push.
Based off the information we now have from the black market, it is apparent that blacks are ahead. We need to know more about the items they now posses. Firstly, Cubedin, you guys had the RPG's, can you confirm that they are a KP? Is there anything special about them? Second, do we know how many vests there are? Regardless, it seems very unlikely that will be able to kill blacks with KP other than lynches.
On that note, our NUMBER ONE priority is to LYNCH BLACKS. Thankfully LSB gave us a beautiful gift: the double lynch that is the Arena. Now, as long as you guys concentrate on using the lynch for Blacks, and using your Night KP for reds, we can still pull out a town victory. Town came from behind with some solid analysis and good hunting in XXXVI, and we can do the same thing and win here. However, this will require effort on everyone's part.
Now, I've been thinking about blacks since Meapak died. I defended him because he was doing analysis, but he was on my black list also. Now that he's flipped red, I've had to re-evaluate how the black team is likely to play. Meapak and I were the two people doing analysis, and he flipped red, and I know that I'm green. I cannot accept the heuristic that I have been using for black any longer.
There's a crucial problem that I hadn't thought of: SK's are super pro-town because they HAVE to survive till the end, and they cannot be roleblocked. This means that they must avoid the lynch at all costs. This game is much different than that, because they have a team of players, who can influence and help. This makes them similar to a mafia team, with less members but with BPV's to make up for that. It seems to me, that this game will function more like a game with two mafia families in it.
So how do we figure out the mafia from the blacks if they are both acting like mafia? The first way that i can think of is analysis on the connections between known scum. I don't mean things as obvious as support/callingout, these things could be set up of course, I'm talking about the tone people take with others, do they FoS some people differently than others? Find unusual connections. The second way is back checking people to see if they were making decisions or revealing information that they shouldn't have. For instance, assuming that the blacks actually gave us the names of scum, we know that they knew that before hand. Was anyone overly suspicious of Amberlight and Orgolove? Did they have good reasoning as to why they were their number one suspects?
Assuming that bombs do NOT kill blacks, lynching ilovejohn seems like a bad idea at this point. Heh. Call me scum for opposing your plan, but i don't care I'm going to die in few hours and you'll see. As a townie, I will say that lynching ilovejohn is the wrong call right now. We need to lynch blacks, and if bombs can't do that, then we should have Coag shoot him or something. It's 4-3 right now, and if we kill many more scum, the balance will be upset badly. CubEdIn is dead on when he says we need to whittle them down evenly. The only way that we can realistically kill black is by lynch now, this means that they are practically guaranteed to survive for three more days, and every day we don't lynch one extends that.
I wish I had more time to do analysis, but since I've been cut short, I'll simply say that i suspect Tnkted is black, and I suspect that Lanaia is also black. Meapak did analysis and he was scum. This does not mean that analysis is scummy. Analysis is, and always will be the key to victory, and I hope you guys start using it more.
GL town, looks like you'll be needing it.
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 03 2011 17:19 GMarshal wrote:BOOM! Kavdragon the Planeswalker from the seventh dimension is dead This is his role PM Show nested quote +
Welcome to Insane Mafia 2 you are the Planeswalker from the Seventh Dimension
You win when the necromancer , the lich and the undead horde are dead, if at any point those three players are dead you win and are removed from the game (you may first at your discretion trigger any of your powers, and/or kill up to 3 players)
to help you in your task you have 5 unique powers
1.) Dimensional Jump- at any point in the game you may jump one day in the future disappearing from the thread for 72 hours (one full day and night) and reappearing as if nothing had happened when that time is over. While you are gone you may not be the target of any effects, votes or powers you are effectivley considered to not be in the game. You may use this power once
2.) Temporal distortion- you immediately end the day and the night lasts as long as however many hours remained in the day + 24 hours. The player with the most votes is lynched as usual, any effects that would take place at the end of the day do so as usual . You may only use this power once
3.) One last shot- the first time you would be lynched the day is reset as if nothing had happened, if you are lynched again they you are out of luck and die as usual
4.) reflective plating- all kp targeted on you are reflected back at the person shooting them at you, this does not apply to explosives
5.) undead sense- if any undead player mentions you in their quick topic you are immediately notified of their identity
Sigh. Never thought I'd see a troll post for me. Thanks GM, hopefully I won't actually see you soon.
Wait. Quick! I use Dimensional Jump! That works still, right?
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On April 03 2011 17:33 Kenpachi wrote:
Lanaia youre asking dumb questions.
Says the guy who put his bombs on two townies.
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On April 03 2011 17:39 Lanaia wrote:Please explain. I was asking how it was lost. I don't necessarily fully understand your role. I was merely asking kevconsim for some reasoning. That isn't dumb.
If a mad hatter puts his bomb on someone, and that person dies (not to the bomb) they lose the bomb. He's probably saying that he had a bomb on iGrok, but the assassin killed iGrok, so he lost his bomb. (They usually have two)
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Lol, why are we talking about lynching me again?
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LOLOLOLOL. I didn't die? Oh wow. What the crap? My BP works durring the day, AND BOMBS don't kill me!?
Well huh. I've been thinking I was dead for a day, and when I finally get a connection again, I'm alive.
I see no reason to hold this out any longer unless bulletproof keeps you from being lynched...0_0
Oh man, I'm going to have so many lols when you lynch me, because there's no way you're going to believe me, but meh. I'm dead in my mind anyways, so here you go: I'm bulletproof. Or at least i was, until I said that I was...
Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Bulletproof-Bob. Your rough riding experiences during the war have sadly left you so terrified and suspicious that you have borrowed a used bulletproof jacket from your Vietnam buddy. Unfortunately, he was were shot with a cannon in the war, so there is a rather large hole in your vest. If you tell anyone about your vest, they know about the hole, and can shoot you through it.
I was going to try to breadcrumb it, but LSB said that if he saw any sort of breadcrumb he would consider it a claim, and he would remove my protection.
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The reason I've not been as outspoke as I've wanted to be is my current RL situation. I told LSB about this before the game, and he even posted the PM. Still, I will reiterate:
I've been moving to a new house, and haven't set up the ISP for it. The only way I can post at all is by walking to a library near by, and even then, that library has a limit of one hour of internet per user. (Though I stretch that by logging off when I'm writing responses.)
I'm honestly sorry that I wasn't able to contribute as much as I did in XXXVI, but you will remember that I was the mayor, and mayors need to stay really active. When I have contributed it's been good contribution. I should be able to post a bit more today because I'm back in school (as of today) so I have internet till around 3:30. I'll probably go to the library for the lynch too.
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On April 05 2011 01:38 CubEdIn wrote:
What about the bomb?
You can't explain that!
Lol, that's why I was confused. BP-ness has traditionally not worked during the day, and hasn't stopped bombs, no?
As far as blacks go, I'll try to make some time today to get in analysis, but Jackal has already mentioned several of the points that make me think that Tnkted is black HERE.
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Oh, and in regards to my earlier post saying that I suspected Lanaia: I really doubt that the king would be third party, so I remove that FoS. The bodyguard's were part of the "Town Kingdom", assuming the obvious, the king is the king of the town kingdom, so I'm definitely thinking Green.
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LSB, would a bomb go through bulletproof?
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