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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 24 2011 23:43 GMT
#341
the fact he took out doesn't bother me. The fact he took and still hasn't said much about it or any one else moving is weird.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 24 2011 23:59 GMT
#342
Coag, you should send this as your orders
A Hol-Ruh
A Mun S Hol-Ruh
A Ber - Kie

This will get you Ruh, and I don't believe there is any way to counter it. From there you can work on dislodging Nemesis from Kie more easily.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
February 25 2011 00:09 GMT
#343
On February 25 2011 04:28 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 03:55 Ace wrote:
I'm not sure on Nemesis. Besides Coagulation should be looked at much harder than Nemesis for now.

Yeah, the only reason why you don't like Coagulation is because he's fighting Nemesis. Remember, Coagulation wasn't the aggressor, Nemesis is.

As for IS, I'm feeling the only reason why you don't like IS is just OMGUS.

What does OMGUS stand for?
Translator:3
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 25 2011 00:11 GMT
#344
o my god u suck
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 25 2011 00:14 GMT
#345
Basically, (Pretend I'm ace)
OMG Infinitestory voted for me! He must be scum! You suck!
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
February 25 2011 00:21 GMT
#346
What is wrong with me taking Tunasia? It's like Ace will get there :D
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Day[9} <3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
February 25 2011 00:32 GMT
#347
ok Ace, any particular reasons you don't trust my townie claim?
Translator:3
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
February 25 2011 01:40 GMT
#348
On February 25 2011 02:57 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 15:59 Ace wrote:
Bc just stop squirming. You're getting shot.

Ace shoots BC 1904. We lynch Nemesis today?



First, he has unjustified aggression and started his own mini war up. + Show Spoiler +

On February 13 2011 02:26 Nemesis wrote:
Well in that case, I'm going to be taking Ruh. Coag, go take something else.

Attacks Ruh for no reason, and explains this as him 'expanding'
On February 18 2011 13:13 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 12:43 Fishball wrote:
On February 18 2011 10:35 LunarDestiny wrote:
France is drawing first blood. Incoming ragefest.


Technically, although there is "no blood", Nemesis made the first move.

How did I make the first move? All I did was expand.

Coag I see that you are rather getting close to my land :X

And proceeds to declare war
On February 21 2011 10:08 Nemesis wrote:
Coag, this means war! D:

Anyone want to partner up with me on my quest on World Domination and killing those Nazis?


Secondly, he has been only parroting and hasn't taken a stance on who to lynch. + Show Spoiler +
On February 15 2011 09:06 Nemesis wrote:
The divinek train wagon is leaving!

ALL ABOARD!

##vote divinek

Jumps the Divinek bandwagon for no reason
On February 18 2011 14:52 Nemesis wrote:
How does it help town more than it helps scum?

We can't really do anything with the information from mass role claiming until 1903 when our lynch comes in and 1904 when blue roles come in.

On the other hand, it helps mafia choose their blue target of choice.

There really is no reason why we shouldn't wait until after the first death, or if there is maybe you can explain it to me.

Critisizes Ace's plan, but he is essentially just repeating my points

On February 24 2011 02:15 Nemesis wrote:
We shouldn't kill Ace until he at least gets the chance to use his ability. It is so easy to verify vigi claim (aka he tells us his night hit and there are two deaths at night), and if he isn't the vigi, then the real vigi would just kill him.

Notice that he doesn't take an actual position on Ace, he's just saying we delay what we do.


unvote
##Vote: Nemesis

First of all, I didn't start the mini-war...coag was the first to declare war. All I did was take a neutral land near him.
On February 18 2011 13:59 Coagulation wrote:
THIS MEANS WAR NEMESIS

Did you intentionally missed this which was before my declaration of war?

For your second point, I thought that I made my stance pretty clear. I agree with ace's plan except for pre-1902 claim. The divinek bandwagon was obviously a joke, and my stance in who to lynch is maybe the person I have my vote on, which is BC?

You are not usually this bad at reading LSB, which makes me think that you may not be town this game.

Combine that with the fact that you just attacked ace and is planning to kill him with your next move before he has the chance to shoot, I think there is a good chance that you might be scum.

I'll keep my vote on BC for now though as I am more certain of him than you. I'll make my case against him soon.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
February 25 2011 01:42 GMT
#349
Also anyone want to ally with me, as it looks like mini-war is soon to be 2 on 1?
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 25 2011 01:45 GMT
#350
On February 25 2011 10:40 Nemesis wrote:
First of all, I didn't start the mini-war...coag was the first to declare war. All I did was take a neutral land near him.

Munich is one of Coag's home Supply Centers -.-

Combine that with the fact that you just attacked ace and is planning to kill him with your next move before he has the chance to shoot, I think there is a good chance that you might be scum.

I have good reason for attacking ace. And I don't plan on killing him until after 1904 if he can't prove himself.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 25 2011 01:50 GMT
#351
On February 25 2011 10:40 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 02:57 LSB wrote:
On February 24 2011 15:59 Ace wrote:
Bc just stop squirming. You're getting shot.

Ace shoots BC 1904. We lynch Nemesis today?



First, he has unjustified aggression and started his own mini war up. + Show Spoiler +

On February 13 2011 02:26 Nemesis wrote:
Well in that case, I'm going to be taking Ruh. Coag, go take something else.

Attacks Ruh for no reason, and explains this as him 'expanding'
On February 18 2011 13:13 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 12:43 Fishball wrote:
On February 18 2011 10:35 LunarDestiny wrote:
France is drawing first blood. Incoming ragefest.


Technically, although there is "no blood", Nemesis made the first move.

How did I make the first move? All I did was expand.

Coag I see that you are rather getting close to my land :X

And proceeds to declare war
On February 21 2011 10:08 Nemesis wrote:
Coag, this means war! D:

Anyone want to partner up with me on my quest on World Domination and killing those Nazis?


Secondly, he has been only parroting and hasn't taken a stance on who to lynch. + Show Spoiler +
On February 15 2011 09:06 Nemesis wrote:
The divinek train wagon is leaving!

ALL ABOARD!

##vote divinek

Jumps the Divinek bandwagon for no reason
On February 18 2011 14:52 Nemesis wrote:
How does it help town more than it helps scum?

We can't really do anything with the information from mass role claiming until 1903 when our lynch comes in and 1904 when blue roles come in.

On the other hand, it helps mafia choose their blue target of choice.

There really is no reason why we shouldn't wait until after the first death, or if there is maybe you can explain it to me.

Critisizes Ace's plan, but he is essentially just repeating my points

On February 24 2011 02:15 Nemesis wrote:
We shouldn't kill Ace until he at least gets the chance to use his ability. It is so easy to verify vigi claim (aka he tells us his night hit and there are two deaths at night), and if he isn't the vigi, then the real vigi would just kill him.

Notice that he doesn't take an actual position on Ace, he's just saying we delay what we do.


unvote
##Vote: Nemesis

First of all, I didn't start the mini-war...coag was the first to declare war. All I did was take a neutral land near him.
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 13:59 Coagulation wrote:
THIS MEANS WAR NEMESIS

Did you intentionally missed this which was before my declaration of war?




MY this means WAR Comment was in direct response you your aggressive actions.

either your lying or you dont understand what you did. regardless you brought any conflict that has been generated between us on to yourself.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 25 2011 01:52 GMT
#352
On February 15 2011 10:26 Fishball wrote:
Seems like Nemesis drew first blood on the Nazis.


DONT LET NEMESIS LIE HIS WAY OUT PRETENDING HES THE VICTIM.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
February 25 2011 02:06 GMT
#353
On February 25 2011 10:45 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 10:40 Nemesis wrote:
First of all, I didn't start the mini-war...coag was the first to declare war. All I did was take a neutral land near him.

Munich is one of Coag's home Supply Centers -.-

Show nested quote +
Combine that with the fact that you just attacked ace and is planning to kill him with your next move before he has the chance to shoot, I think there is a good chance that you might be scum.

I have good reason for attacking ace. And I don't plan on killing him until after 1904 if he can't prove himself.

ummm WTF, Munich was white when I took it.

How can he claim ownership of land that he doesn't own?:/

And coag went the other direction away from Munich, so I thought he didn't want it.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
February 25 2011 02:08 GMT
#354
And LSB, then why are you moving your fleet right next to portugal right now, you have plenty of time to do that later on?
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
February 25 2011 02:09 GMT
#355
BloodyC0bbler
Let's take a look at his posts then, shall we?

On February 21 2011 17:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Very little really that I can talk about atm.

People are randomly fighting and playing this more like diplo than mafia (although I am guilty of this as well).

I shall try to get more into this, but it will take serious discussion from more than ace to make this feel like anything other than diplo

IS I do apologize for taking Bul, but without it I am pretty well fucked if anyone decides to invade -_-

His first post after the game starts which was on Winter 1902. All this time we had been discussing about Ace's mass roleclaim idea, and he says there is "very little I can really talk about?"

He pretty much just made excuses in this post on why he doesn't want to take a position. That sounds to me like a scum afraind to slipup.


Now on to his next post:
On February 22 2011 15:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Since im now back at my machine I see that citizen is participating and has somehow managed to get others too as well, awesome. I guess we can get a real game out of this.

As such I will post my thoughts.

The entire situation with citizen taking charge is awesome. Serious props for joining later and keeping active, however stop your random finger pointing unless you start pointing some at yourself. You not only have FoS myself but you have also FoS Infinity. You tell us we shouldn't be playing this like a game of diplomacy yet attacked fishball without provocation to my knowledge rather than taking one of your own home sc's.

Now I am just as guilty on that as I took Bul however I'm not trying to keep eyes elsewhere.

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 11:45 infinitestory wrote:
On February 22 2011 10:55 citi.zen wrote:
On February 22 2011 03:39 infinitestory wrote:
##Vote BC

Because the least you could have done is tell me to move aside. At least that way I would have had time to prepare a fleet on Gre.

This post makes no sense. Yes you retreated but won a center overall. How would "moving aside" have helped at all? BC won two centers out of it.

You and BC moved to the top of the shady list. Plus, BC has too many votes and no intention to help.

""Vote BloodyC0bbler""

imagine yourself in my shoes for a moment, please.
I now have a unit on Rum, pretty much trapped, and I'm going to have to move it back to Ser so BC/someone else doesn't push it farther. In the end, in winter 1903 (when SC count really matters) I will most likely end up with fewer SCs. If BC just wanted access to Rum and told me so, we probably could have worked something out.


I currently hold no intentions of moving farther north as I now have two potential exits if I am attacked. I have no real interest to be super aggressive this game as I have not been given a reason to be. If you don't like how the board is situated at the moment I am sorry but I think you can see where I was coming from.



To get the ball rolling on this people really should start talking about this game. I am bad for it and if we can get the level of activity up that would be awesome. Now, ATM ace/lsb are doing an obvious sort of fight (started beginning of game).

I have explained why I moved where I did, but we still need citizen to justify his move, need bum, coag, nemesis, and beneather to all explain why they are all fighting eachother as It makes no sense to me thus far. Do you think eachother is red? why are you all attacking eachothers home sc's without fully owning your own first?

I get this is a mix of two games but so many assaults have happened with little to no provocation that I can get, as no one has vocalized it really in thread except for IS against me, and Ace against LSB. Can we get some reasoning please?

As citi.zen pointed out, this is pretty much a big post saying nothing to make it look like he's "contributing without contributing."

The rest of his post are him trying to justify his inactivity, and makes more long posts that doesn't say anything.
On February 24 2011 14:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 13:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Well so far, BC is the most likely choice, seeing as there isn't a lot of activity.


How am I the likely choice? I am the only one who has explained my troupe movements out of the people being aggressive early on. Instead we have people who have been pushing personal agenda's going unaccounted for?

Lack of activity doesn't mean go for the person who has justified their own actions, it would mean go for people who sit in the back pushing their own game while not answering for themselves. We have bum attempting to invade italy, nemesis and coag fighting. Neither of these fights have been clarified. How about before we start trying to start a bandwagon people start justifying their selves.


On February 24 2011 15:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 14:21 LSB wrote:
Well, BC, have you commeneted on anything besides the game? Seems kindof lurkerish.

All right then, who's more scummy, bum, nemesis or yourself and why?


Honestly, I'd look to the people as I said, not justifying their actions. I have called out bum, beneather, nemesis and coagulation more than once now to at least justify why they have done what they have and gotten nothing.

Also what would you have me comment on besides the game? No one really is talking but you and every now and then we get a random post from someone else.
Factor in we have a bunch of people role claiming now and i start to facepalm?

Ace could very well be vigi as it is one of his preferred roles but the claim would also help save him since hes in a terrible situation atm. Shockeyy is already in an alliance with him since beginning of game and suddenly comes out to save him is also suspect. As much as I would love to believe them both its far too odd considering the circumstances.

The entire game is too inactive for me to get solid behavioural analysis as everyone is doing plays that although suspect are harder to read considering there are two games being played in one / literally no one is talking (yes im also to blame for this). If everyone would start posting normally as per a regular mafia game it would be far easier to keep things going, but so far that isn't happening.


Conclusion: BC is trying to stay away from the spotlight by not taking any stance, and trying to make it look like he's contributing by making big posts of fluff.

Contrast this with his town game where even though sometimes he is inactive, he tries and give people advice and steer town in the right direction.


BC is scum
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 25 2011 02:10 GMT
#356
On February 25 2011 11:06 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 10:45 LSB wrote:
On February 25 2011 10:40 Nemesis wrote:
First of all, I didn't start the mini-war...coag was the first to declare war. All I did was take a neutral land near him.

Munich is one of Coag's home Supply Centers -.-

Combine that with the fact that you just attacked ace and is planning to kill him with your next move before he has the chance to shoot, I think there is a good chance that you might be scum.

I have good reason for attacking ace. And I don't plan on killing him until after 1904 if he can't prove himself.

ummm WTF, Munich was white when I took it.

How can he claim ownership of land that he doesn't own?:/

And coag went the other direction away from Munich, so I thought he didn't want it.


On February 05 2011 08:32 Incognito wrote:
Mini Mafia VI: Diplomacy

In this game, there are 11 countries:
E - England (Home SCs: Lon, Edi, Lvp)
F - France (Home SCs: Par, Bre, Mar)
L - Lowlands (Home SCs: Hol, Bel, Ruh)
G - Germany (Home SCs: Ber, Kie, Mun)
N - Norway (Home SCs: Nor, Swe, Den)
R - Russia (Home SCs: Mos, StP, Sev, War)
A - Austria (Home SCs: Vie, Tri, Bud)
B - Balkans (Home SCs: Ser, Bul, Rum, Gre)
T - Turkey (Home SCs: Con, Ank, Smy)
S - Spain (Home SCs: Spa, Por, Tun)
I - Italy (Home SCs: Ven, Rom, Nap)


On February 25 2011 11:08 Nemesis wrote:
And LSB, then why are you moving your fleet right next to portugal right now, you have plenty of time to do that later on?

Why not?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
February 25 2011 02:19 GMT
#357
On February 25 2011 11:10 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 11:06 Nemesis wrote:
On February 25 2011 10:45 LSB wrote:
On February 25 2011 10:40 Nemesis wrote:
First of all, I didn't start the mini-war...coag was the first to declare war. All I did was take a neutral land near him.

Munich is one of Coag's home Supply Centers -.-

Combine that with the fact that you just attacked ace and is planning to kill him with your next move before he has the chance to shoot, I think there is a good chance that you might be scum.

I have good reason for attacking ace. And I don't plan on killing him until after 1904 if he can't prove himself.

ummm WTF, Munich was white when I took it.

How can he claim ownership of land that he doesn't own?:/

And coag went the other direction away from Munich, so I thought he didn't want it.


Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 08:32 Incognito wrote:
Mini Mafia VI: Diplomacy

In this game, there are 11 countries:
E - England (Home SCs: Lon, Edi, Lvp)
F - France (Home SCs: Par, Bre, Mar)
L - Lowlands (Home SCs: Hol, Bel, Ruh)
G - Germany (Home SCs: Ber, Kie, Mun)
N - Norway (Home SCs: Nor, Swe, Den)
R - Russia (Home SCs: Mos, StP, Sev, War)
A - Austria (Home SCs: Vie, Tri, Bud)
B - Balkans (Home SCs: Ser, Bul, Rum, Gre)
T - Turkey (Home SCs: Con, Ank, Smy)
S - Spain (Home SCs: Spa, Por, Tun)
I - Italy (Home SCs: Ven, Rom, Nap)



Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 11:08 Nemesis wrote:
And LSB, then why are you moving your fleet right next to portugal right now, you have plenty of time to do that later on?

Why not?

I must have missed that then :X

On that note, you took Mar even before your suspicion on Ace which was based on his mass roleclaim plan?

Anyways, I'm off for now as I have midterms right now and I need to study. If anyone has anything they want me to respond to, I'll do it tomorrow.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 25 2011 02:21 GMT
#358
On February 25 2011 11:19 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 11:10 LSB wrote:
On February 25 2011 11:06 Nemesis wrote:
On February 25 2011 10:45 LSB wrote:
On February 25 2011 10:40 Nemesis wrote:
First of all, I didn't start the mini-war...coag was the first to declare war. All I did was take a neutral land near him.

Munich is one of Coag's home Supply Centers -.-

Combine that with the fact that you just attacked ace and is planning to kill him with your next move before he has the chance to shoot, I think there is a good chance that you might be scum.

I have good reason for attacking ace. And I don't plan on killing him until after 1904 if he can't prove himself.

ummm WTF, Munich was white when I took it.

How can he claim ownership of land that he doesn't own?:/

And coag went the other direction away from Munich, so I thought he didn't want it.


On February 05 2011 08:32 Incognito wrote:
Mini Mafia VI: Diplomacy

In this game, there are 11 countries:
E - England (Home SCs: Lon, Edi, Lvp)
F - France (Home SCs: Par, Bre, Mar)
L - Lowlands (Home SCs: Hol, Bel, Ruh)
G - Germany (Home SCs: Ber, Kie, Mun)
N - Norway (Home SCs: Nor, Swe, Den)
R - Russia (Home SCs: Mos, StP, Sev, War)
A - Austria (Home SCs: Vie, Tri, Bud)
B - Balkans (Home SCs: Ser, Bul, Rum, Gre)
T - Turkey (Home SCs: Con, Ank, Smy)
S - Spain (Home SCs: Spa, Por, Tun)
I - Italy (Home SCs: Ven, Rom, Nap)



On February 25 2011 11:08 Nemesis wrote:
And LSB, then why are you moving your fleet right next to portugal right now, you have plenty of time to do that later on?

Why not?

I must have missed that then :X

On that note, you took Mar even before your suspicion on Ace which was based on his mass roleclaim plan?

Anyways, I'm off for now as I have midterms right now and I need to study. If anyone has anything they want me to respond to, I'll do it tomorrow.

Mar is part of france btw.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 25 2011 02:26 GMT
#359
now you finally realize that you are in fact the one that aggressively attacked me and started this conflict.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
February 25 2011 02:55 GMT
#360
there seems to be a lack of knowledge of the contents of the OP
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