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On December 18 2010 17:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Ghrur the Chansey was modkilled Tube the Pikachu was modkilled Chaoser the Pikachu was modkilled There goes my theory about tube... x.x On December 18 2010 22:45 Brocket wrote: I said DC was mafia for 2 reasons. He had 2 previous accusers killed off and he started the d3 bandwagon. Yet somehow it's my fault for his actions? What? Is it getting through that accusers of DC in previous nights have been killed? 2 of them? The key issue is that the mafia was actively trying to redirect the lynch off of Shockeyy. There are three ways they could do this 1) Stay low and just vote for themselves (what Oceanic did) 2) Place their votes on D3 and hope to get him lynched (This is incredibly dumb) 3) Attempt to redirect the lynch to DCXLIV Now. How would we know if the lynch was attempted to be redirected to DCXLIV? The key point is how the DCXLIV pushers dealt with the Shockeyy issue. Mafia would just completely ignore Shockeyy to try to not tie themselves with them, or downplay the issue. (See how Pandain tried to downplay Coagulation and focus on Glasse in don't loose your village) Now lets apply this to see if it fits Brocket. Firstly, his main argument against lynching shockey Day 2 was that there "was not enough information". This is clearly false, I had done the full analysis. Comprehensive post analysis, and also previous game analysis. In addition, Brocket does not offer a reason why the shockeyy lynch was premature, he just assumed it. + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2010 06:06 Brocket wrote: I think shockeyy and amber haven't posted enough to earn a position to be voted. The shockeyy bandwagon does not amuse me and I am disappoint in LSB. In tree hugger fashion: Gabriel or zeks are good votes and are the only votes that should matter because those two have been discussed 'extensively'. If you want shockey out, wait till day 3 voting please, you're not helping the town cause. Way too soon and way too shallow of an argument. I am not satisfied with amber or d3's (lol) arguments. LSB, shockey is implying amber and d3 appear to be working together.Which I agree with. But I'm saving that for the next day assuming I don't die night 2. Btw please look more on amber+d3 if I die night 2. On December 15 2010 06:12 Brocket wrote: "As for Voting Gabriel. I found it very strange that Jcarlson and Meapak died. On the other hand, this could be a great way to make Gabriel seem even more suspicious." This kind of evens out you going on shockey bandwagon LSB. This is a great point and I say I didn't even think of it. But I'm assuming TR are too stupid to even think of something like this. Nonetheless this discredits the Gabe vote. I'm sticking to my guns though. As I just said gabe/zeks are both good votes. Voting shockeyy now in the final hours of day 2 voting is a huge mistake, we simply haven't discussed enough about him yet. It's just a mixture of spontaneous and bandwagon which are key ingredients for suspicious activity and failure. Now, the most important post I discovered is this On December 18 2010 09:44 Brocket wrote: @ LSB: I'm not sure about shockeyy but DC and gabe have been suss. Don't you think there's sufficient evidence against DC too? It makes no sense voting d3 if we know he took the hit. If he's not a vet he's mewtwo. In either case the mafia want to save up a night kill by lynching him. Does it not make sense then to avoid that by lynching? We can use a mewtwo. Kind of sad if shockey turns out to be a medic but if you are still compelled go ahead and vote him. I'd rather see shockeyy go than d3 at this point. My vote is still on DC. Planned medic claim much? Brocket's key defense of Shockeyy was that he could be medic. No one says could be medic. People say possible blue. There was no way Brocket would know that Shockeyy would be claiming medic, unless he planned it with Shockeyy beforehand. | ||
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On December 18 2010 18:19 Node wrote: Sorry for the lack of posts lately, between finals, flying across the country, and being at home where much of the time the only internet is the EDGE network from my phone, I've been having a hard time keeping up with mafia. Here are my thoughts at the moment. I really think that the best place to look for mafia at the moment is the people that voted for d3. Eiii, BrownBear, Shockeyy, and DCL all left their votes on him, and I consider all of them to be scum or quite scummy. People should notice BrownBear in particular more, as it seems like he's flipped scum in all of these games where he has been very inactive and only occasionally chimes in with not much in particular. FOS Node | ||
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DT Please Claim. Tomorrow is possible the last day for the town, and any information, even if everyone you checked die, is good Medics please protect me. After I'm gone, medics, if you trust your own abilities, possibly start self protecting. Initial Lynch setup. I'll get in depth later If D3 kills someone that isn't Brocket, and isn't red. We'll need to start cutting KP drastically. Someone else should do the calculations, but D3 could loose us the game. If D3 is roleblocked. Lynch Brocket [u]If Brocket is red[/] I'll make a big post about this soon If Brocket is green The town will really need to re-evaluate everything that's going on. | ||
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But those brings up two new points 1) Brocket believed Shockeyy 2) Brocket defended Shockeyy | ||
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Tinfoil Hat Mode ![[image loading]](http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4475601/2/istockphoto_4475601-paranoid-again.jpg) All right, the only possible way the town could win right now is by practically naming every single mafia straight from the bat. So I'll try my hand at picking everything. + Show Spoiler + Major Assumption. DCXLIV is green Way to confirm without killing DCXLIV: If Brocket is red, this could be an easy way to confirm. Day 3 Mafia Plan -Redirect lynch onto DCXLIV. + Show Spoiler + This would be an attempt to save Shockeyy. -Put suspicion on people who voted for D3. + Show Spoiler + A way to try to control Day 4 double lynch This is the key post that dictates the plan On December 18 2010 04:28 Brocket wrote: BROCKET HAS ARRIVED. EVENTS that townies should give a shit about: D3 claims to be mewtwo. Town is COOL with this. WE LOVE m2. Why? Because if townies lose then m2 loses at this stage since zero mafia are dead. Also Mafia have zero ways of killing m2 except by vote. Look at this. LOOK AT IT. d3_crescentia DCLXVI Kavdragon Eiii BrownBear deconduo You must vote one of these guys. Any of them. Shockeyy could be the 6th but not sure. My suggestion is, hop onto the god damn DC wagon or else I'm going to suss you out next, got it? ##VOTE double lynch. ##Vote DCLXVI. You KNOW it makes sense. Make the mafia fail in killing m2, kill a mafia, get 2 lynches for next day. Why the hell would you NOT do it and spread our votes between shockeyy, gabe, LSB. What the fuck? Get with the program pikachus. HRRRRRRNNNGGGGHHH. Greens under this idea Grouped under the D3 lynched Eiii- Insanious pushed him DCXLIV- Obv Brownbear- DTH breadcrumbed him. Grouped under the "D3 lynch" Kavdragon- Not that much, he's pretty scummy... but still listed deconduo- Voted for Shockeyy Voted for shockeyy seRapH- Possibly green LSB Gabriel deconduo- Possibly green KtheZ- Possibly green, see below GGQ- Possibly green Infundibulum- Possibly green Reds under this idea Brocket- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=174831¤tpage=43#847 Node- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=174831¤tpage=46#915 + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On December 19 2010 03:00 Kavdragon wrote: LSB: You expect Mafia to RB you? Why? If there is a chance that you will die, we need to know what information you have. If it means posting it right before the end of the night, then so be it, but please, don't die with information that can benefit the town. Don't worry about that. I'll make sure any information I have gets through before 10:00 KST. On December 19 2010 02:48 Brocket wrote: When did I defend shockey or believe him? I just said it'll be unfortunate if shockey turned up medic after he claimed medic. I didn't ever say I believed him. Seriously quote me. Please. And when did I defend Shockey? , I told you guys to go ahead to vote Shockey, it's even in the damn post you quoted me saying. I personally chose DC because like gabe he has gone under the radar due to shit storms. I still think DC is scummy. Am I not allowed to think that when I have said multiple times that DC eliminated people accusing him and I thought he was a scummy target for eliminating his targets and trying to get rid of m2. Am I not right in saying if d3 is mewtwo then we can use him as townie? He gave up the game when he admitted it. He can't win until more mafia are dead. You defended shockeyy in two ways. Firstly, by trying to delay the day 2 shockey bandwagon right as it started. Secondly you attempted to redirect the lynch to DCLXVI. This is most evident when you did not have an opinion on the Shockeyy lynch at all and kept on insisting (and still do) that we should lynch DCLXVI. DCLXVI became too conviniant for people to jump on without thinking, or explaining themselves. This is the reason why I suspect you. You nearly let shockeyy go free by almost getting DCLXVI lynched. | ||
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On December 19 2010 02:58 Brocket wrote: Let me refit the context as well while I'm at it. day 2: zeks+ gabe were on the chopping block. Amber+ d3+ lsb decide to vote shockey. Amber points out some things, sure. d3 just obligingly agrees and lsb quickly hops on with no in depth 'analysis'. We said that it wasn't good for the town when zeks + gabe were good enough votes and that we'd discuss shockey on the following day which you guys refused to do. We get the discussion necessary for shockey and we reach a suitable conclusion day 3. I stuck by my guns and I still stand by my vote on DC and hold residual suspicion on gabe. I also stand by my decision to keep d3. That's all I've done up to this point since day 2 and day 3. Tell me now if I've done anything wrong. The thing you did wrong is that you killed Amber, you tried to kill D3 and you'll probably kill me tonight. Oh and DC/Gave/Zeks are all town. And you pushed their lynch. | ||
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On December 19 2010 05:24 d3_crescentia wrote: I don't have any suspects and am going to rest a bit more from driving all day today/yesterday. I'm going to kill brocket tonight, as I think that's the only course of action where it's possible for me to win. Well, not the only one, but it reveals the most info. I think it's time for a mass roleclaim once the day post is up. Well, medics shouldn't claim, but I don't have a problem with Hatters / DTs claiming. | ||
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It looks like everyone who voted for DCXLIV (except for Node) were killed. DT, can you claim? | ||
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Miss Both Night 4:6/5/1. Mafia Victory Hit one, miss one Night 4: 7/4/1 (If miss mafia) Day 5:4/4/1 LYLO (If hit mafia) Day 5:5/3/1 Advantageous to not Double lynch Hit two mafia Night 4:8/3/1 (If miss mafia) Day 5:5/3/1 Advantageous to not Double lynch (If hit mafia) Day 5:6/2/1 Very close to victory | ||
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2. BrownBear 3. Eiii 4. GGQ 5. LSB 9. dinmsab 11. DCLXVI 14. Node 15. KtheZ 18. Oceanic 19. Gabriel- Cloyster 24. Kavdragon 26. Infundibulum 30. d3_crescentia- SK | ||
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On December 19 2010 13:19 Node wrote: Are you sure that's wise, seeing as all of the medics are presumably dead? Well, if we mess up this lynch, we lose | ||
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