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Ok, so I suggest that NOBODY attack ANYONE
Nations that are caught breaking this code shall be the target of all their pacifist neighbors. Aggression only against the aggressor. This way the mafia can't taking over while we're in chaos.
Second, I want to hear people's opinions on nation claiming. It's like roleclaiming but you're claiming a nation instead. Obviously if two people claim the same nation someone's lying. Also its easier to attack mafia if we find them.
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I'd rather see how the countries fall on the map before we do any claiming.
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-eh- not too much feeling nation claiming just yet. What if the names are on the map already. I'd like to see where I am on the map too....And you're suggesting strictly defending?
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Fair enough. But once the nations do fall on the country I think we should all claim.
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On November 13 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: -eh- not too much feeling nation claiming just yet. What if the names are on the map already. I'd like to see where I am on the map too....And you're suggesting strictly defending? Nations will be placed on the map with their names, and you should have already gotten a PM telling you which province you are. At least I know >_>
I am suggesting strictly defending, so if the mafia attacks anyone (which they need to to win), we'll have a immediate suspect.
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On November 13 2010 03:08 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: -eh- not too much feeling nation claiming just yet. What if the names are on the map already. I'd like to see where I am on the map too....And you're suggesting strictly defending? Nations will be placed on the map with their names, and you should have already gotten a PM telling you which province you are. At least I know >_> I am suggesting strictly defending, so if the mafia attacks anyone (which they need to to win), we'll have a immediate suspect. Good idea on the nation claiming actually then. I'll claim mine once Caller tells me if I can use the name lol.
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On November 13 2010 03:08 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: -eh- not too much feeling nation claiming just yet. What if the names are on the map already. I'd like to see where I am on the map too....And you're suggesting strictly defending? Nations will be placed on the map with their names, and you should have already gotten a PM telling you which province you are. At least I know >_> I am suggesting strictly defending, so if the mafia attacks anyone (which they need to to win), we'll have a immediate suspect.
How do you propose we deal with neutral territories?
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I will meat someone on the field of battle and lay claim to the neutral nation, OBVIOUSLY.
=D
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On November 13 2010 03:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 03:08 seRapH wrote:On November 13 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: -eh- not too much feeling nation claiming just yet. What if the names are on the map already. I'd like to see where I am on the map too....And you're suggesting strictly defending? Nations will be placed on the map with their names, and you should have already gotten a PM telling you which province you are. At least I know >_> I am suggesting strictly defending, so if the mafia attacks anyone (which they need to to win), we'll have a immediate suspect. How do you propose we deal with neutral territories? There should only be 6 neutrals. So i'm going to suggest only blues take them. If you take a neutral then you better goddamn be a blue or I'm going to try to get you lynched as soon as I find out you aren't.
The alternative plan is just to leave the neutrals alone so communists have somewhere to go. I know they're 3rd party but they're pretty much doomed once we find out who they are So after that they're forced to help us just to have a reason to stay alive.
But that only works if you nation claim of course. So that's why everyone has to nation claim.
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South Island Free Zone
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Hello, this is LSB speaking. Bringing to you one awesome plan.
This is addressed to the countries of 28, 29, 30, 22, 23.
This is not a game for pussys.
Do you wish to stay alive this game? Big bad wolves are our there. The way to win is to act, and destroy the mafia in their dens before they grow strong. If we're going to be sitting ducks, the mafia / communists will snap us up easily.
We are the hunters. The mafia will fear us. The communists will run. We are the SIFZ
Message me if you are interested.
Current Policies-
- Do not nation claim. If more people than countries PM me, I may ask for a nation claim. Nation Claming allows mafia to influence the town to take down our alliance. You may run messages to the town through me if you wish.
- Temporary Non-Aggression pact between island countries who are in SIFZ.
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interesting team. although your invitation is appealing, I'm sure you're gonna get more people than nations since its so appealing but only inviting to those 5 nations
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On November 13 2010 04:39 zerroth wrote: interesting team. although your invitation is appealing, I'm sure you're gonna get more people than nations since its so appealing but only inviting to those 5 nations That won't be a problem.
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On November 13 2010 04:41 LSB wrote:The reason for alliances. Take a look at Caller's RAM game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690What happened? LSB-Radfield-Xelin-Deconduo happened. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690¤tpage=34#674We killed every single other person in the town. And I was town as I did that. We easily cleaned up traitors, and mafia members. The key point is that this limited the game down two 4 people. And from there, we duked it out with much much better odds. If we get alliances down, and one alliance prevails overall, the game will be much cleaner and easier for a good townie to win. Alliances are very Town favored. It gets rid of the teamwork advantage that the mafia have
Oh damn LSB, that's fairly impressive.
As for everyone claiming, I'm not sure it's such a good idea. It gives the mafia a lot of leeway to cause confusion with false claims and counter-claims. I can be convinced otherwise, but that is my opinion as of now.
As for non-aggression on night1, I will reserve my judgement on that until provinces are posted.
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On November 13 2010 04:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:Oh damn LSB, that's fairly impressive. As for everyone claiming, I'm not sure it's such a good idea. It gives the mafia a lot of leeway to cause confusion with false claims and counter-claims. I can be convinced otherwise, but that is my opinion as of now. As for non-aggression on night1, I will reserve my judgement on that until provinces are posted.
EBWOP:
This was in response to Seraph's ideas.
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On November 13 2010 04:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:Oh damn LSB, that's fairly impressive. As for everyone claiming, I'm not sure it's such a good idea. It gives the mafia a lot of leeway to cause confusion with false claims and counter-claims. I can be convinced otherwise, but that is my opinion as of now. As for non-aggression on night1, I will reserve my judgement on that until provinces are posted. Counter claiming will not be an issue from the mafia. They will just claim their own country. The issue is. There is no way to tell if an acquisition is a smart townie or a mafia. We can discuss this all we want. But what's going to happen is that someone is going to take over another country, and town is going to have the discussion frozen.
However, I am against claiming. Claiming is a great way for the mafia to be able to take alliances apart through lynches.
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Pandain grumbled to himself. They had come back, those 5 men. They waved propaganda signs and pleaded for countries to join them. It was there, at one of the meetings they held, that Pandain and LSB had a very interesting debate.
LSB: But Pandain! You must join! You were one of the original founders! Pandain: *looks to the side, murmers* I did not found such a beast that lays before me. LSB: You must see, dear sir, this is good for the town! Pandain:Is it? If a panda poacher invades this organization, will they not benefit from it? LSB: Aye, but so will town. Pandain: But by doing this we lay off a certain group to be safe for a period of time. I know you recruited these people, how do we not know they are mafia. And now you will never have to accuse each other or anything like that. Or even having two mafia means you will be probably safe from attacks. LSB: You will see, trust me. Pandain: Perhaps, but even more so, what happens when you think you have found a panda poacher. What will you do? Will you let them live? And if you turn on them, how will we know whether you did so out of reason, or an ulterior motive. LSB: Old man, you know little. All you have done is sing with the pandas and sleep in the trees. This will never happen. I tire of you. Pandain: *fervor rising* An alliance based on trust will not last when there are evil forces at work. You can not have a force for good when the possibility of corruption lies within, decaying the very essence or purity that resonated once so brightly. You all are blind. You will go out, and have blind faith in each other. LSB: Do you say alliances are bad? Pandain: Verily that is not the truth. I... I once made an alliance. A secret alliance. We were all friends, and it was great. You know the story. LSB: I've made that better than it ever was. Pandain: YOU'VE RUINED IT! *calms down* But trust me, alliances can be good. Indeed, I myself offer a friendship alliance to everyone. But I shall not be blind. I shall not be unreasonable. I shall be peaceful, and that is the difference. With that Pandain left, and ate bamboo.
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Pandain, are you claiming that you are in SIFZ? Please do this in pm then. If you are wishing to stay a pacifist, we can provide protection in exchange for non-agression
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Ok, I don't get this game. So what do we do during the day? Do we just randomly lynch a province or a person? If so does that province become neutral?
Also, mass claiming is always a bad idea.
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On November 13 2010 05:01 LSB wrote: Pandain, are you claiming that you are in SIFZ? Please do this in pm then. If you are wishing to stay a pacifist, we can provide protection in exchange for non-agression
I am part of thou which was once pure but now defiled. I am part of thou who will feel war yet not taste. I am part of thou which obeys only the pandas.
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