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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
November 12 2010 17:54 GMT
#141
Ok, so I suggest that NOBODY attack ANYONE

Nations that are caught breaking this code shall be the target of all their pacifist neighbors. Aggression only against the aggressor. This way the mafia can't taking over while we're in chaos.

Second, I want to hear people's opinions on nation claiming. It's like roleclaiming but you're claiming a nation instead. Obviously if two people claim the same nation someone's lying. Also its easier to attack mafia if we find them.
boomer hands
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 18:00 GMT
#142
I'd rather see how the countries fall on the map before we do any claiming.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 12 2010 18:06 GMT
#143
-eh- not too much feeling nation claiming just yet. What if the names are on the map already. I'd like to see where I am on the map too....And you're suggesting strictly defending?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
November 12 2010 18:06 GMT
#144
Fair enough. But once the nations do fall on the country I think we should all claim.
boomer hands
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
November 12 2010 18:08 GMT
#145
On November 13 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
-eh- not too much feeling nation claiming just yet. What if the names are on the map already. I'd like to see where I am on the map too....And you're suggesting strictly defending?

Nations will be placed on the map with their names, and you should have already gotten a PM telling you which province you are. At least I know >_>

I am suggesting strictly defending, so if the mafia attacks anyone (which they need to to win), we'll have a immediate suspect.
boomer hands
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 12 2010 18:13 GMT
#146
On November 13 2010 03:08 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
-eh- not too much feeling nation claiming just yet. What if the names are on the map already. I'd like to see where I am on the map too....And you're suggesting strictly defending?

Nations will be placed on the map with their names, and you should have already gotten a PM telling you which province you are. At least I know >_>

I am suggesting strictly defending, so if the mafia attacks anyone (which they need to to win), we'll have a immediate suspect.

Good idea on the nation claiming actually then. I'll claim mine once Caller tells me if I can use the name lol.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 12 2010 18:16 GMT
#147
On November 13 2010 03:08 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
-eh- not too much feeling nation claiming just yet. What if the names are on the map already. I'd like to see where I am on the map too....And you're suggesting strictly defending?

Nations will be placed on the map with their names, and you should have already gotten a PM telling you which province you are. At least I know >_>

I am suggesting strictly defending, so if the mafia attacks anyone (which they need to to win), we'll have a immediate suspect.


How do you propose we deal with neutral territories?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 12 2010 18:24 GMT
#148
I will meat someone on the field of battle and lay claim to the neutral nation, OBVIOUSLY.

=D
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
November 12 2010 18:26 GMT
#149
On November 13 2010 03:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 03:08 seRapH wrote:
On November 13 2010 03:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
-eh- not too much feeling nation claiming just yet. What if the names are on the map already. I'd like to see where I am on the map too....And you're suggesting strictly defending?

Nations will be placed on the map with their names, and you should have already gotten a PM telling you which province you are. At least I know >_>

I am suggesting strictly defending, so if the mafia attacks anyone (which they need to to win), we'll have a immediate suspect.


How do you propose we deal with neutral territories?

There should only be 6 neutrals. So i'm going to suggest only blues take them. If you take a neutral then you better goddamn be a blue or I'm going to try to get you lynched as soon as I find out you aren't.

The alternative plan is just to leave the neutrals alone so communists have somewhere to go. I know they're 3rd party but they're pretty much doomed once we find out who they are So after that they're forced to help us just to have a reason to stay alive.

But that only works if you nation claim of course. So that's why everyone has to nation claim.
boomer hands
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 19:36 GMT
#150
South Island Free Zone

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Hello, this is LSB speaking. Bringing to you one awesome plan.

This is addressed to the countries of 28, 29, 30, 22, 23.

This is not a game for pussys.

Do you wish to stay alive this game? Big bad wolves are our there. The way to win is to act, and destroy the mafia in their dens before they grow strong. If we're going to be sitting ducks, the mafia / communists will snap us up easily.

We are the hunters. The mafia will fear us. The communists will run. We are the SIFZ

Message me if you are interested.

Current Policies-
  • Do not nation claim. If more people than countries PM me, I may ask for a nation claim. Nation Claming allows mafia to influence the town to take down our alliance. You may run messages to the town through me if you wish.
  • Temporary Non-Aggression pact between island countries who are in SIFZ.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
zerroth
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada173 Posts
November 12 2010 19:39 GMT
#151
interesting team. although your invitation is appealing, I'm sure you're gonna get more people than nations since its so appealing but only inviting to those 5 nations
With no power, comes no responsibility.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 19:41 GMT
#152
The reason for alliances.

Take a look at Caller's RAM game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690

What happened? LSB-Radfield-Xelin-Deconduo happened.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690&currentpage=34#674
We killed every single other person in the town. And I was town as I did that. We easily cleaned up traitors, and mafia members.

The key point is that this limited the game down two 4 people. And from there, we duked it out with much much better odds.

If we get alliances down, and one alliance prevails overall, the game will be much cleaner and easier for a good townie to win.

Alliances are very Town favored. It gets rid of the teamwork advantage that the mafia have
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 19:43 GMT
#153
On November 13 2010 04:39 zerroth wrote:
interesting team. although your invitation is appealing, I'm sure you're gonna get more people than nations since its so appealing but only inviting to those 5 nations

That won't be a problem.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 12 2010 19:44 GMT
#154
On November 13 2010 04:41 LSB wrote:
The reason for alliances.

Take a look at Caller's RAM game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690

What happened? LSB-Radfield-Xelin-Deconduo happened.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690&currentpage=34#674
We killed every single other person in the town. And I was town as I did that. We easily cleaned up traitors, and mafia members.

The key point is that this limited the game down two 4 people. And from there, we duked it out with much much better odds.

If we get alliances down, and one alliance prevails overall, the game will be much cleaner and easier for a good townie to win.

Alliances are very Town favored. It gets rid of the teamwork advantage that the mafia have


Oh damn LSB, that's fairly impressive.

As for everyone claiming, I'm not sure it's such a good idea. It gives the mafia a lot of leeway to cause confusion with false claims and counter-claims. I can be convinced otherwise, but that is my opinion as of now.

As for non-aggression on night1, I will reserve my judgement on that until provinces are posted.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 12 2010 19:45 GMT
#155
On November 13 2010 04:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 04:41 LSB wrote:
The reason for alliances.

Take a look at Caller's RAM game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690

What happened? LSB-Radfield-Xelin-Deconduo happened.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690&currentpage=34#674
We killed every single other person in the town. And I was town as I did that. We easily cleaned up traitors, and mafia members.

The key point is that this limited the game down two 4 people. And from there, we duked it out with much much better odds.

If we get alliances down, and one alliance prevails overall, the game will be much cleaner and easier for a good townie to win.

Alliances are very Town favored. It gets rid of the teamwork advantage that the mafia have


Oh damn LSB, that's fairly impressive.

As for everyone claiming, I'm not sure it's such a good idea. It gives the mafia a lot of leeway to cause confusion with false claims and counter-claims. I can be convinced otherwise, but that is my opinion as of now.

As for non-aggression on night1, I will reserve my judgement on that until provinces are posted.


EBWOP:

This was in response to Seraph's ideas.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 19:48 GMT
#156
On November 13 2010 04:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 04:41 LSB wrote:
The reason for alliances.

Take a look at Caller's RAM game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690

What happened? LSB-Radfield-Xelin-Deconduo happened.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690&currentpage=34#674
We killed every single other person in the town. And I was town as I did that. We easily cleaned up traitors, and mafia members.

The key point is that this limited the game down two 4 people. And from there, we duked it out with much much better odds.

If we get alliances down, and one alliance prevails overall, the game will be much cleaner and easier for a good townie to win.

Alliances are very Town favored. It gets rid of the teamwork advantage that the mafia have


Oh damn LSB, that's fairly impressive.

As for everyone claiming, I'm not sure it's such a good idea. It gives the mafia a lot of leeway to cause confusion with false claims and counter-claims. I can be convinced otherwise, but that is my opinion as of now.

As for non-aggression on night1, I will reserve my judgement on that until provinces are posted.

Counter claiming will not be an issue from the mafia. They will just claim their own country.
The issue is. There is no way to tell if an acquisition is a smart townie or a mafia.
We can discuss this all we want. But what's going to happen is that someone is going to take over another country, and town is going to have the discussion frozen.

However, I am against claiming. Claiming is a great way for the mafia to be able to take alliances apart through lynches.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 12 2010 19:54 GMT
#157
Pandain grumbled to himself. They had come back, those 5 men. They waved propaganda signs and pleaded for countries to join them. It was there, at one of the meetings they held, that Pandain and LSB had a very interesting debate.

LSB: But Pandain! You must join! You were one of the original founders!
Pandain: *looks to the side, murmers* I did not found such a beast that lays before me.
LSB: You must see, dear sir, this is good for the town!
Pandain:Is it? If a panda poacher invades this organization, will they not benefit from it?
LSB: Aye, but so will town.
Pandain: But by doing this we lay off a certain group to be safe for a period of time. I know you recruited these people, how do we not know they are mafia. And now you will never have to accuse each other or anything like that. Or even having two mafia means you will be probably safe from attacks.
LSB: You will see, trust me.
Pandain: Perhaps, but even more so, what happens when you think you have found a panda poacher. What will you do? Will you let them live? And if you turn on them, how will we know whether you did so out of reason, or an ulterior motive.
LSB: Old man, you know little. All you have done is sing with the pandas and sleep in the trees. This will never happen. I tire of you.
Pandain: *fervor rising* An alliance based on trust will not last when there are evil forces at work. You can not have a force for good when the possibility of corruption lies within, decaying the very essence or purity that resonated once so brightly. You all are blind. You will go out, and have blind faith in each other.
LSB: Do you say alliances are bad?
Pandain: Verily that is not the truth. I... I once made an alliance. A secret alliance. We were all friends, and it was great. You know the story.
LSB: I've made that better than it ever was.
Pandain: YOU'VE RUINED IT! *calms down* But trust me, alliances can be good. Indeed, I myself offer a friendship alliance to everyone. But I shall not be blind. I shall not be unreasonable. I shall be peaceful, and that is the difference.
With that Pandain left, and ate bamboo.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 20:01 GMT
#158
Pandain, are you claiming that you are in SIFZ?
Please do this in pm then. If you are wishing to stay a pacifist, we can provide protection in exchange for non-agression
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
November 12 2010 20:02 GMT
#159
Ok, I don't get this game. So what do we do during the day? Do we just randomly lynch a province or a person? If so does that province become neutral?

Also, mass claiming is always a bad idea.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 12 2010 20:03 GMT
#160
On November 13 2010 05:01 LSB wrote:
Pandain, are you claiming that you are in SIFZ?
Please do this in pm then. If you are wishing to stay a pacifist, we can provide protection in exchange for non-agression


I am part of thou which was once pure but now defiled. I am part of thou who will feel war yet not taste. I am part of thou which obeys only the pandas.

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