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Also some clue analysis that I don't think is spectacular, but could have some merit:
On February 14 2010 07:43 Incognito wrote:
The horses neighed, and the first horseman charged dreamflower, spear aimed low at her gut.
Googling "L", the first thing that comes up is the wikipedia article.
The letter L is derived from the Egyptian crook or goad which stood for /l/. This originally may have been based on an Egyptian hieroglyph that was adapted by Semites for alphabetic purposes. The Greek letter Lambda Λ (upper case) or λ (lower case), as well as the equivalent Etruscan and Latin letters, represent the same sound as the Semitic letter.
Very much like a spear. I didn't think this was worth posting, however L's profile has little content, only a picture of luigi looking at some guy, which I don't see any clue links at all to. Only to his name.
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Ver, can you comment on my accusation of L being sumiyoshi? I do believe he was the one who brought up the double lynch, as well as the one pressing Scamp the hardest. You saying that the Mafia want a double lynch, and that the sumiyoshi are after Scamp seem to support that.
While I'm happy that we know Quickstriker is mafia, I think it is more worthwhile to lynch Redtooth or L, since they cannot be killing by the mafia. Why not lynch on of them and let the Gambino family kill Quickstriker?
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Don't focus on the clue analysis, I kind of regret posting it. Madnessman did some analysis against L to, however the voting patterns/election implicate L much more strongly than clues.
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On February 21 2010 12:20 L wrote:Show nested quote +Who cares about all these stupid conspiracy theorr lies, they are not important and distract us from the real task at hand: ensuring both families stay equal in power. Kinda matters because if redtooth flips red, you're heavily implicated. The first people to vote redtooth are: redtooth (9) Chezinu x Chezinu x Ver Ace xChezinu Caller d3_crescentia xciti.zen decafchicken meeple d3_crescentiaAceEmpyreanBill MurrayChez. You. Caller. Chez has recently been found out as the bathroom shitter mafia. Scamp actually came through and made a fantastic clue analysis to save himself. Is he selling out a fellow teammember who he thinks will live regardless? maybe, but it doesn't matter. Chez attempts to distance himself from you in PMs as I showed earlier, but never really attacks you in the thread despite not being worried about throwing out attacks. You and caller early on move to protect each other; Caller gets onto your medic list as proof of this. Caller, meanwhile, doesn't act for the majority of the game despite being a good player. Redtooth and you, similarly, are buddies the entire game through. In the post that I call him out, literally the line after admitting that he's mafia, he basically tells people to slavishly obey you. Simply put: After DrH had mediocre support, redtooth submits a half-assed candidacy very early. His mafia buddies boost him early in the running, but fearing that he would die quickly if he was not protected (which would subsequently reveal many of his allies on the voting list) he fake claims early and can't be verified. Is this true? I don't know. I'll be more certain once redtooth dies, but its very odd that you'd attempt to bandwagon tree.hugger, then switch to quickstriker; if you had such good analysis earlier, why the change? If you're sumiyoshi, then you're essentially trying to trade an inactive member of your team to save redtooth and keep heat off yourself.
You completely ignored my accusation of you. As active as you are, I'm sure you didn't miss it. One of my points was that if Redtooth flips Sumiyoshi, that you are Gambino. Seems like it could be a little indirect defense, saying that Redtooth being red implicates Ver, when it doesn't really strongly implicate him.
You need to respond to my accusation L, you said yourself that mafia shouldn't just be able to cover up accusations. And Ver, you opinion would be nice to, as well as your support of lynching Redtooth and not quickstriker.
That said, the reasons to lynch Redtooth and not quickstriker are:
1) The Gambino family will kill Quickstriker
2) redtooth and L are protected from night hits, lynches are the only way to kill them
3) Redtooth flipping sumiyoshi implicates L, we get information from the lynch as well as a death mafia.
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Also lynching redtooth will also keep the Mafia families equal at 7/7.
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One last thing to keep in mind, it is 21 vs 15 at the moment. I'm not going to be posting for like 15 hours, and I know Foolishness doesn't care, but I'm hoping to find replies to my accusation from L/redtooth/Ver, and I feel that the time between replies to posts can change peoples opinions (eg revenge accusations, and no response from me looks suspicious, things like that).
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so much insta lynching going on
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At the end of the election, in the last minutes, there was an influx of green votes for Redtooth. It was expected that L would be mayor and Redtooth pardoner.
so two things:
Redtooth was in the position to get pardoner, which I think we have established is the role the mafia would want.
The Mafia would have screwed up their placements of bodyguards if they weren't paying attention in literally the last 3 minutes. Chances are, they probably weren't.
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the only problems I'm seeing is that we are going after the sumiyoshi family (Redtooth, Ver, Quickstriker, Chez, maybe some others), and the Gambino family isn't taking too many hits (Caller, no one else?).
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and maybe Chezinu should shut up
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Quickstriker will be killed tonight anyway by the mafia, there is no point in lynching him.
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Gambino hit list: lucaswoj, Ver
Sumiyoshi hitlist: Citi.zen, l01f, Ver
Can't see why the Gambino family didn't hit QS when he was checked by a DT.
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PM I got from Ver before he died:
So I dont know if l10f told you or not but you were rolechecked. In case I die tonight here is my data that I sent to you and him.
Here's the poor level of info I have:
Roleclaimed BGs:
Malongo
Versatile
Midori *dead GF*
Roleclaimed DTs:
You (l01f)
Roleclaimed Medics:
Redtooth *dead*
Have not roleclaimed (remaining blues are here):
Vivi
QS
Dozko
Nikoner
Tree Hugger
Shockeyy
Meeple
Zona (dead vet)
Opz
Sidesprang
Caller, red
Ohn
Abenson
Cynanmachae
Hatters are all dead. No vets. laaan we both know is confirmed green. The rest claimed green.
My suspects:
Sumiyoshi:
Quickstriker
Foolishness
citizen (dead gambino)
lucaswoj (dead townie)
Caller
Johnnyspazz
Gambino:
Opz
tredmasta?
Uncertain but likely:
scamp
Shockeyy
Decafchicken
cynanmachae
tree.hugger, good rolecheck target, it's possible he's stupid blue
Hobbes
vivi
Chezinu 'told' me he checked hobbes/vivi and got both as greens. That might be possible, dunno what he's doing. He didn't 'tell' me his day 3 check.
At some point it's going to be worth saving the rolechecked guys for last to have any remaining medics protect them if necessary in worst case scenarios.
But basically we are playing blindfolded with our hands tied behind our back after nobody has claimed and the town lynched 1/3 people who did claim.
I added stuff in brackets.
Posting it because I'm too bad/lazy at this game to do anything useful with it, and there isn't really anyone to coordinate with anymore, plus I'm not going to have any computer access until this friday.
But Gambinos should stop sucking, and hopefully the 1/2 medics/Dts left can do some magic.
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To justify my vote:
The people I think that are most likely mafia at this point are sidesprang, Johnnyspazz, opz, Tree.hugger, and maybe shocckey.
The reason to vote to lynch Chezinu is because the way I see it he is a little suspicious, but it is also very possible that he is the DT. Him flipping DT proves the innocence of vivi and hobbes, the people that he claimed to rolecheck, and him flipping red kills a red, lol. At this point when there are so few town aligned people left, if we can be sure of who are townies, then that narrows down the possibility of finding mafia members by alot. Plus at this point I think the DT is less useful then before, since they will have used all their rolechecks.
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lol @ the Gambino's killing me
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Night 3:
Gambinos hit Ver twice.
You guys actually thought Ver was mafia? o:
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EPT
