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Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
September 01 2014 20:34 GMT
#2081
my god TSM just can't win vs C9. They get raped every single playoff game
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
September 01 2014 20:34 GMT
#2082
i feel like c9 just has smarter players..nvm the fact that c9 has better plays. tsm just falls for the same shit from c9 over and over and over...
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
September 01 2014 20:34 GMT
#2083
Dyrus used pulv before anyone had turret aggro?
日本語が分かりますか
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 01 2014 20:36 GMT
#2084
On September 02 2014 05:30 wei2coolman wrote:
As good as C9 are compared to the rest of NA, they'll never be successful internationally. They get completely out classed in terms of mechanical proficiency against all the top international teams. (with exception of 3rd place EU team).


Na, they're fine imo. Personally I'd rate them as favourites against fnatic currently and 50/50 against Alliance. The thing is how you define international success. For me it's at least finals or actually winning the tournament, which I don't ever see a western team doing anymore unless there's only 1 korean team attending or brackets are rigged so they can't both reach the finals.

I'd be positively surprised though if C9, Alliance and the others can put up a fight at worlds and maybe even knock out a korean team (without a massive choke like S3 Dade) but the odds are extremely low imo.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 01 2014 20:36 GMT
#2085
Is dat lustlife
Glorious SEA doto
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
September 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#2086
bjerg is literally tsm's only hope for this series. he just died knowing he's getting 6 and being able to get the return kill
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#2087
Dont really understand why Jatt hypes up C9's early game here so much.

Also I do not think of Alistar as someone that has to win lane.
Off-season = best season
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#2088
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 01 2014 20:39 GMT
#2089
On September 02 2014 05:37 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 05:36 AsnSensation wrote:
On September 02 2014 05:30 wei2coolman wrote:
As good as C9 are compared to the rest of NA, they'll never be successful internationally. They get completely out classed in terms of mechanical proficiency against all the top international teams. (with exception of 3rd place EU team).


Na, they're fine imo. Personally I'd rate them as favourites against fnatic currently and 50/50 against Alliance. The thing is how you define international success. For me it's at least finals or actually winning the tournament, which I don't ever see a western team doing anymore unless there's only 1 korean team attending or brackets are rigged so they can't both reach the finals.

I'd be positively surprised though if C9, Alliance and the others can put up a fight at worlds and maybe even knock out a korean team (without a massive choke like S3 Dade) but the odds are extremely low imo.


if c9 even gets 1 win against any of the korean powerhouses this tourny I'd consider that a huge success.
right now if they came out as the best 'western' team I'd be pretty happy too (beating fnatic, alliance, etc.)

That is pretty much how I see it as well (except I would root for ther EU teams ).
Off-season = best season
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
September 01 2014 20:40 GMT
#2090
that was poor by hai :/ alistar is king of setup.
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
September 01 2014 20:40 GMT
#2091
Looks like hai can't handle the syndra
Jaedong :D
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 01 2014 20:41 GMT
#2092
On September 02 2014 05:36 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 05:30 wei2coolman wrote:
As good as C9 are compared to the rest of NA, they'll never be successful internationally. They get completely out classed in terms of mechanical proficiency against all the top international teams. (with exception of 3rd place EU team).


Na, they're fine imo. Personally I'd rate them as favourites against fnatic currently and 50/50 against Alliance. The thing is how you define international success. For me it's at least finals or actually winning the tournament, which I don't ever see a western team doing anymore unless there's only 1 korean team attending or brackets are rigged so they can't both reach the finals.

I'd be positively surprised though if C9, Alliance and the others can put up a fight at worlds and maybe even knock out a korean team (without a massive choke like S3 Dade) but the odds are extremely low imo.

I would have more hope in Alliance. Froggen at least is world class player on the role with most impact.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 01 2014 20:41 GMT
#2093
Is this going to be the first tsm win vs c9 in playoffs?Highly likely
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 01 2014 20:41 GMT
#2094
I think TSM would do much better if they had faith in each others skillshots, Dyrus couldve easily comboed lulu after bjergsen stunned her.

Meteos has all the kills, looking pretty good. Regi+Loco preptalk doing work <3
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 01 2014 20:42 GMT
#2095
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meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
September 01 2014 20:42 GMT
#2096
wow tsm is winning. they are actually playing great this game. applying pressure while denying vision. good play
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 01 2014 20:44 GMT
#2097
Meteos is 3 levels up on amazing wtf?
SimulatedAnneal
Profile Joined March 2012
765 Posts
September 01 2014 20:45 GMT
#2098
On September 02 2014 05:44 nafta wrote:
Meteos is 3 levels up on amazing wtf?

Amazing double jungled and then helped push a ton of turrets. Meteos played like Meteos.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
September 01 2014 20:45 GMT
#2099
One jungler pushes as 4 constantly the other farms jungle and gets kills. No real shock that the latter is going to outlevel the former.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
September 01 2014 20:46 GMT
#2100
Why is Dyrus bulding roa? wtf?
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