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On September 02 2014 05:06 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 05:05 las91 wrote:On September 02 2014 05:03 Redox wrote:On September 02 2014 05:01 las91 wrote:
Turtle wasn't absolute shit this game either, it was just an unplayable composition while they give C9 every single pick they wanted. Amazing being absolute garbo on anything not named Lee Sin/Elise should be telling to how they actually play, until he gets Lee Sin/Elise/Nunu TSM won't have a chance at all. If people critisize Amzng that is understandable, but saying Khazix is not one of his best champions is just nonsense. He's 1-1 on Kha, this split, now 1-2. How is that "one of his best champions" It always was. He did not start playing this split.
I'm not counting EU winrates considering the Spring meta was hugely different. I'm considering the actual relevant statistics within the past month.
On September 02 2014 05:08 AsnSensation wrote:
Dunno why tsm let zed through? It's Hai's best champ and C9 knows it's Bjerg's best champ so they were gonna firstpick it 100%. I'm expecting C9 to ban it this game. He just doesn't have any bad matchups and the prepared Fizz is not really a counter and the lane still goes in Zed's favour.
the Braum ban was kind of weird, I figured they saw the Zed open and should have just banned it out but maybe the figured Hai wouldn't pick it first rotation.
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Dunno why tsm let zed through? It's Hai's best champ and C9 knows it's Bjerg's best champ so they were gonna firstpick it 100%. I'm expecting C9 to ban it this game. He just doesn't have any bad matchups and the prepared Fizz is not really a counter and the lane still goes in Zed's favour.
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Analyst desk saying what we all thinking. This lucian/lulu tunneling is so dam weird.
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With kayle dead i dont really see a hardcounter to zed and he just seems super op in lcs
when i play him however... i hard counter myself lol
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I questioned the Lucian over Trist before the game, but in retrospect I don't think it even mattered that much this game. It's not like trist hard carried or anything.Sneaky didn't even seem that comfortable on trist. I think the result of the game is just because meteos jungled much better than amazing.
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On September 02 2014 05:07 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 05:06 Redox wrote:On September 02 2014 05:05 las91 wrote:On September 02 2014 05:03 Redox wrote:On September 02 2014 05:01 las91 wrote:
Turtle wasn't absolute shit this game either, it was just an unplayable composition while they give C9 every single pick they wanted. Amazing being absolute garbo on anything not named Lee Sin/Elise should be telling to how they actually play, until he gets Lee Sin/Elise/Nunu TSM won't have a chance at all. If people critisize Amzng that is understandable, but saying Khazix is not one of his best champions is just nonsense. He's 1-1 on Kha, this split, now 1-2. How is that "one of his best champions" It always was. He did not start playing this split. I'm not counting EU winrates considering the Spring meta was hugely different. I'm considering the actual relevant statistics within the past month. Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 05:08 AsnSensation wrote:
Dunno why tsm let zed through? It's Hai's best champ and C9 knows it's Bjerg's best champ so they were gonna firstpick it 100%. I'm expecting C9 to ban it this game. He just doesn't have any bad matchups and the prepared Fizz is not really a counter and the lane still goes in Zed's favour. the Braum ban was kind of weird, I figured they saw the Zed open and should have just banned it out but maybe the figured Hai wouldn't pick it first rotation.
Elise/Lee/Kha were the 3 bans against TSM that happened when he first arrived. It was the main reason he got absolutely destroyed when he first started playing for TSM. His stats aren't that great because they always banned it from him until it was changed and people started shifting away from the pick.
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Kayle isn't dead.Played top sometimes in ogn and is viable as support.Nrated played her even a few times.
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On September 02 2014 05:09 SharkStarcraft wrote:
With kayle dead i dont really see a hardcounter to zed and he just seems super op in lcs
when i play him however... i hard counter myself lol
zilean/lulu does really well against zed, imo, and that was prob tsm's counterpick against zed more so than fizz was.
tsm (more like lustboy) just executed poorly in a few fights which led to c9 snowballing the game despite having what I think was a decent zed counter comp.
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Just pick double exhaust and double shield vs zed and build zhonya first so he cant do a shit.
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On September 02 2014 05:07 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 05:06 Redox wrote:On September 02 2014 05:05 las91 wrote:On September 02 2014 05:03 Redox wrote:On September 02 2014 05:01 las91 wrote:
Turtle wasn't absolute shit this game either, it was just an unplayable composition while they give C9 every single pick they wanted. Amazing being absolute garbo on anything not named Lee Sin/Elise should be telling to how they actually play, until he gets Lee Sin/Elise/Nunu TSM won't have a chance at all. If people critisize Amzng that is understandable, but saying Khazix is not one of his best champions is just nonsense. He's 1-1 on Kha, this split, now 1-2. How is that "one of his best champions" It always was. He did not start playing this split. I'm not counting EU winrates considering the Spring meta was hugely different. I'm considering the actual relevant statistics within the past month.
Ok you are seriously basing your analysis on a 1-2 win rate? :D
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On September 02 2014 05:11 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 05:07 las91 wrote:On September 02 2014 05:06 Redox wrote:On September 02 2014 05:05 las91 wrote:On September 02 2014 05:03 Redox wrote:On September 02 2014 05:01 las91 wrote:
Turtle wasn't absolute shit this game either, it was just an unplayable composition while they give C9 every single pick they wanted. Amazing being absolute garbo on anything not named Lee Sin/Elise should be telling to how they actually play, until he gets Lee Sin/Elise/Nunu TSM won't have a chance at all. If people critisize Amzng that is understandable, but saying Khazix is not one of his best champions is just nonsense. He's 1-1 on Kha, this split, now 1-2. How is that "one of his best champions" It always was. He did not start playing this split. I'm not counting EU winrates considering the Spring meta was hugely different. I'm considering the actual relevant statistics within the past month. Ok you are seriously basing your analysis on a 1-2 win rate? :D
And you're basing yours on 6 month old data after multiple patches that direcly impact the champion you're talking about?
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On September 02 2014 05:07 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 05:06 Redox wrote:On September 02 2014 05:05 las91 wrote:On September 02 2014 05:03 Redox wrote:On September 02 2014 05:01 las91 wrote:
Turtle wasn't absolute shit this game either, it was just an unplayable composition while they give C9 every single pick they wanted. Amazing being absolute garbo on anything not named Lee Sin/Elise should be telling to how they actually play, until he gets Lee Sin/Elise/Nunu TSM won't have a chance at all. If people critisize Amzng that is understandable, but saying Khazix is not one of his best champions is just nonsense. He's 1-1 on Kha, this split, now 1-2. How is that "one of his best champions" It always was. He did not start playing this split. I'm not counting EU winrates considering the Spring meta was hugely different. I'm considering the actual relevant statistics within the past month.
Dade was 0-1 on Yasuo in OGN Summer. Spring meta was hugely different so his performance there doesn't matter. Actual relevant statistics within past months say he sucks on that champ 
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On September 02 2014 05:12 krndandaman wrote:
bjergsen has never played kayle in a professional match so I doubt it's even an option
Nobody plays her mid.....
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I'm with whoever thinks OddOne was a better jungler than Amazing. This iteration of TSM would be fantastic with OddOne.
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On September 02 2014 05:12 AlterKot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 05:07 las91 wrote:On September 02 2014 05:06 Redox wrote:On September 02 2014 05:05 las91 wrote:On September 02 2014 05:03 Redox wrote:On September 02 2014 05:01 las91 wrote:
Turtle wasn't absolute shit this game either, it was just an unplayable composition while they give C9 every single pick they wanted. Amazing being absolute garbo on anything not named Lee Sin/Elise should be telling to how they actually play, until he gets Lee Sin/Elise/Nunu TSM won't have a chance at all. If people critisize Amzng that is understandable, but saying Khazix is not one of his best champions is just nonsense. He's 1-1 on Kha, this split, now 1-2. How is that "one of his best champions" It always was. He did not start playing this split. I'm not counting EU winrates considering the Spring meta was hugely different. I'm considering the actual relevant statistics within the past month. Dade was 0-1 on Yasuo in OGN Summer. Spring meta was hugely different so his performance there doesn't matter. Actual relevant statistics within past months say he sucks on that champ
Redox was insisting Kha was one of his best champions, I'm showing why it's silly to imply that. I'm not talking about Dade and you can strawman as hard as you want to.
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I hate Lucian so much, 48% winrate Summer split reg. 35% in playoffs so far, and pretty terrible rates across Spring split as well, Man... the champ is fun to play and all, but these darned ADCs and their love for the gunman annoys me so much
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On September 02 2014 05:13 Nemireck wrote:
I'm with whoever thinks OddOne was a better jungler than Amazing. This iteration of TSM would be fantastic with OddOne.
this iteration of tsm already happened with oddone, unless you think xpecial vs lustboy is actually a significant difference in the gameplay level of the team.
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