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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 18 2014 01:12 TitusVI wrote: got the feeling this was lost by nyph Well Tabzz still should have never made this suciadal flash over the wall even if Nyph went agressive first. Overall bot lane went terrible, and top not much better. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
They had their comp banned out, so they tried the B version of it. Other thing is, man Froggen is not a Zilean player. lol. Difference between 3 item and 6 item item zilean is quite small. Froggen as a player only functions when he has 50% of his teams gold. Its kind of silly. They needed that gold on Kha or Kogmaw. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On August 18 2014 01:14 iCanada wrote: Nah, Alliance just got outpicked. They had their comp banned out, so they tried the B version of it. Other thing is, man Froggen is not a Zilean player. lol. Difference between 3 item and 6 item item zilean is quite small. Froggen as a player only functions when he has 50% of his teams gold. Its kind of silly. They needed that gold on Kha or Kogmaw. i believe it was quite the opposite, ALL outpicked FNC (seriosuly kog,zilean and mao wtf how do u let them have that) but they got outplayed especially by soaz who pretty much won the game alone for them | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On August 18 2014 01:14 iCanada wrote: Nah, Alliance just got outpicked. They had their comp banned out, so they tried the B version of it. Other thing is, man Froggen is not a Zilean player. lol. Difference between 3 item and 6 item item zilean is quite small. Froggen as a player only functions when he has 50% of his teams gold. Its kind of silly. They needed that gold on Kha or Kogmaw. lol, Fnatic only won this game, because bot lane went full retard and gave free kills. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On August 18 2014 01:15 kongoline wrote: i believe it was quite the opposite, ALL outpicked FNC but they got outplayed especially by soaz who pretty much won the game alone for them How would you say that? Fanatic picked the better teamcomp (also the one they were comfortable with) and the better lanes, and also managed to get Alliances priority 1 player on a champion he cannot hardcarry on. Lategame Zilean is never a damage threat. | ||
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loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
On August 18 2014 01:12 skykh wrote: If they throw this match i swear froggen does his stupid retard shit like picking vlad in game 3 vs frost or zyra vs gambit for third place Please no. I watched every OGN game with CLG.EU, I was live at Gamescom last year and the only big tournament I remember not watching of them was Dreamhack. Please make it stop and make them win something. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
On August 18 2014 01:14 Redox wrote: Well Tabzz still should have never made this suciadal flash over the wall even if Nyph went agressive first. Overall bot lane went terrible, and top not much better. Especially that situation made me think that nyph could fall into the mindset of lets just smash our heads threw the wall and win this game. Will keep my eye on him next game if he keeps cool. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On August 18 2014 01:18 iCanada wrote: How would you say that? Fanatic picked the better teamcomp (also the one they were comfortable with) and the better lanes, and also managed to get Alliances priority 1 player on a champion he cannot hardcarry on. Lategame Zilean is never a damage threat. zilean/mao late game is a fucking terror, theres a reason why koreans ban it in pretty much every match, if fnc wasnt so far ahead and got rekkles fed early game theres big chance they would have lost, even with their huge advantage late game team fights were close | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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Taktik
Poland680 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On August 18 2014 01:23 kongoline wrote: zilean/mao late game is a fucking terror, theres a reason why koreans ban it in pretty much every match, if fnc wasnt so far ahead and got rekkles fed early game theres big chance they would have lost, even with their huge advantage late game team fights were close I understand that, but Fnatic comp was really strong too. That is their strength. I question you this: If you were to play against Froggen, and you had to choose one champion for him to play as, who would it be? Personally, I probably pick ZIlean. All Alliances gold was on a speed + revive bot. The Moakai, Kha, and Kogmaw needed to be big damage threats in thbat comp, but they weren't. Zilean never carries games, he supports games. Froggen is a carry player. Probably the best player of the 10 playing. The best at carrying. And he was put on a champion which never carries. There is a reason you never see Faker play Zilean. | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On August 18 2014 01:28 iCanada wrote: I understand that, but Fnatic comp was really strong too. That is their strength. I question you this: If you were to play against Froggen, and you had to choose one champion for him to play as, who would it be? Personally, I probably pick ZIlean. All Alliances gold was on a speed + revive bot. The Moakai, Kha, and Kogmaw needed to be big damage threats in thbat comp, but they weren't. Zilean never carries games, he supports games. Froggen is a carry player. Probably the best player of the 10 playing. The best at carrying. And he was put on a champion which never carries. There is a reason you never see Faker play Zilean. Faker doesn't play Zilean... | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On August 18 2014 01:28 iCanada wrote: I understand that, but Fnatic comp was really strong too. That is their strength. I question you this: If you were to play against Froggen, and you had to choose one champion for him to play as, who would it be? Personally, I probably pick ZIlean. All Alliances gold was on a speed + revive bot. The Moakai, Kha, and Kogmaw needed to be big damage threats in thbat comp, but they weren't. Zilean never carries games, he supports games. Froggen is a carry player. Probably the best player of the 10 playing. The best at carrying. And he was put on a champion which never carries. There is a reason you never see Faker play Zilean. On less serious note, you should thank Faker for all those Zileans. Don't like [A]'s comp, if Tabzz plays on his yesterday level though, Alliance will take it. And go laneswap, for fuck sake. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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