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ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
May 22 2014 23:45 GMT
#21
I find it hard to believe you guys consider Innox to be 'talent'
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 23 2014 04:41 GMT
#22
Perhaps I'm more conservative/cautious than most of you but I don't think CLG should be grouped with C9 yet. Cloud 9 has proven that they're head and shoulders above the rest of NA. This current iteration might possibly be the best CLG has had since Saint was on the team back in Season 2 but let's not get carried away. To me, there's a distinction between predicting that CLG can break top 2 and saying they're there already.

Dignitas, again, possibly the best version of their team in a long time but I think they will have an even harder time meshing together than CLG+Seraph. Coast and Dignitas playstyles are rather different and I think Crumbz is going to be the crux of how Dig ends up faring this split.
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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 23 2014 05:28 GMT
#23
I just wanna see Westrice get destroyed lol
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 23 2014 05:32 GMT
#24
I kinda hope pr0lly can somehow become the "Rekkles" of Fnatic. That would bode well for my fantasy league, hue.
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K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
May 23 2014 07:33 GMT
#25
Very excited for the games tomorrow! :D
nonlamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Thailand322 Posts
May 23 2014 08:03 GMT
#26
First match is gonna be a grand opening match, I can't wait!!!
Just a E-Sport fan but not play any xD
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 08:39:28
May 23 2014 08:38 GMT
#27
OP says C9 vs TSM is at 9:00 CET, calendar says it's 11pm CET damn.

Edit : Okay it's 9pm.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 23 2014 09:04 GMT
#28
On May 23 2014 13:41 NeoIllusions wrote:
Perhaps I'm more conservative/cautious than most of you but I don't think CLG should be grouped with C9 yet. Cloud 9 has proven that they're head and shoulders above the rest of NA. This current iteration might possibly be the best CLG has had since Saint was on the team back in Season 2 but let's not get carried away. To me, there's a distinction between predicting that CLG can break top 2 and saying they're there already.

Dignitas, again, possibly the best version of their team in a long time but I think they will have an even harder time meshing together than CLG+Seraph. Coast and Dignitas playstyles are rather different and I think Crumbz is going to be the crux of how Dig ends up faring this split.

Judging from the posts I have seen most people actually see it like you and put C9 firmly ahead of CLG. Me included.
Off-season = best season
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 23 2014 09:06 GMT
#29
On May 23 2014 14:28 Disengaged wrote:
I just wanna see Westrice get destroyed lol

I hope he will prove everyone wrong. Having the teams/players with the lowest expectations perform the worst is just boring.
Off-season = best season
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
May 23 2014 11:09 GMT
#30
How mad will fans be if this happend to tsm/clg?

AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 23 2014 11:12 GMT
#31
B-but muh rush hour and muh korean and muh montecristo and muh link with international experience ;_:

I think I'm the only one who predicts CLG to be in the same skill level as C9 and my EU predictions were far off, so I wouldn't give myself too much attention :p With that said, I think that Nien was a bigger problem than most people assume and I'm excited to see this new roster play. I also think that C9 aren't some untouchable gods and their dominance was more about NA in general being bad rather than them being Korean level. I just don't think they can get much better than they are now, and CLG definitely can. I just believe, that's what bandwagon fans do
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 23 2014 11:18 GMT
#32
Westrice is going to stomp seraph.
That is all.
Glorious SEA doto
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
May 23 2014 11:27 GMT
#33
On May 23 2014 20:12 AlterKot wrote:
B-but muh rush hour and muh korean and muh montecristo and muh link with international experience ;_:

I think I'm the only one who predicts CLG to be in the same skill level as C9 and my EU predictions were far off, so I wouldn't give myself too much attention :p With that said, I think that Nien was a bigger problem than most people assume and I'm excited to see this new roster play. I also think that C9 aren't some untouchable gods and their dominance was more about NA in general being bad rather than them being Korean level. I just don't think they can get much better than they are now, and CLG definitely can. I just believe, that's what bandwagon fans do


CLG might get at C9's level at the time the playoffs begin. The same is true for TSM and maybe even Dignitas. Teams will struggle when they get new players, CLG in particular because their playstyle revolves so much about teamplay and smart map movements. Seraph needs time to improve his communication and if you listen to his interviews he still has trouble communicating with Dexter.
I cheer for CLG as well but I'll temper my expectations for later in the season. They will lose against C9 at sunday but should win against Curse and EG. The match against LMQ will be interesting.

And damn it, I have a race tonight so I'll miss the first game most likely.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 11:35:55
May 23 2014 11:35 GMT
#34
Yeah, as I said in my previous big post - I don't think CLG is on C9 level right now, I just think they can be by the end of the split, and I wouldn't be suprised if they were able to beat current TSM (and everyone else but C9). And yeah I know that Seraph has trouble with Dexter's accent and it's not hard to see why :p I just don't think it's something he won't get used to after 1-2 months, especially with english tutoring.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 12:07:38
May 23 2014 12:06 GMT
#35
On May 23 2014 20:27 Don_Julio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 20:12 AlterKot wrote:
B-but muh rush hour and muh korean and muh montecristo and muh link with international experience ;_:

I think I'm the only one who predicts CLG to be in the same skill level as C9 and my EU predictions were far off, so I wouldn't give myself too much attention :p With that said, I think that Nien was a bigger problem than most people assume and I'm excited to see this new roster play. I also think that C9 aren't some untouchable gods and their dominance was more about NA in general being bad rather than them being Korean level. I just don't think they can get much better than they are now, and CLG definitely can. I just believe, that's what bandwagon fans do


CLG might get at C9's level at the time the playoffs begin. The same is true for TSM and maybe even Dignitas. Teams will struggle when they get new players, CLG in particular because their playstyle revolves so much about teamplay and smart map movements. Seraph needs time to improve his communication and if you listen to his interviews he still has trouble communicating with Dexter.
I cheer for CLG as well but I'll temper my expectations for later in the season. They will lose against C9 at sunday but should win against Curse and EG. The match against LMQ will be interesting.

And damn it, I have a race tonight so I'll miss the first game most likely.


Based Riot predicts CLG to win and go 4-0 this week, if we can believe that fantasy l0l.

Well, current meta favours CLG a lot. It's not like CLG can't win in different meta but no Corki spam, mobile mages midlane and so on is veeeeery good for us. So if we're jumping from the gates instantly and not struggle with for example, 4-4 after 3 weeks, then we're going to be in great shape this season and i expect 20+ wins finally.
Even though, with general skill level going up, i will be ok with just top-2 in regular season, just to avoid possible nerve-wrecking matches.

On May 23 2014 20:35 AlterKot wrote:
Yeah, as I said in my previous big post - I don't think CLG is on C9 level right now, I just think they can be by the end of the split, and I wouldn't be suprised if they were able to beat current TSM (and everyone else but C9). And yeah I know that Seraph has trouble with Dexter's accent and it's not hard to see why :p I just don't think it's something he won't get used to after 1-2 months, especially with english tutoring.


Well, it's not like Seraph doesn't have an idea how CLG is playing, he is Korean in the end :D
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DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
May 23 2014 12:49 GMT
#36
Made some small bets

C9 -172 vs TSM
CLG -106 vs LMQ (LMQ is a fav wat?)
DIG -135 vs EG
Yarr?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 23 2014 12:54 GMT
#37
On May 23 2014 20:09 skykh wrote:
How mad will fans be if this happend to tsm/clg?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2jvAJ8KeqA&feature=youtu.be


It's happened countless times in the LCS. There's even been reddit threads about it. It's just a fundamental flaw in the way vision is designed in this game and until riot does a complete overhaul of the map/vision system nothing is going to change that.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
May 23 2014 13:14 GMT
#38
On May 23 2014 21:54 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 20:09 skykh wrote:
How mad will fans be if this happend to tsm/clg?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2jvAJ8KeqA&feature=youtu.be


It's happened countless times in the LCS. There's even been reddit threads about it. It's just a fundamental flaw in the way vision is designed in this game and until riot does a complete overhaul of the map/vision system nothing is going to change that.

Yep. ever since the ward changes back when pinks stopped being invisible this has happened over and over again.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 14:03:41
May 23 2014 14:00 GMT
#39
On May 23 2014 21:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 20:27 Don_Julio wrote:
On May 23 2014 20:12 AlterKot wrote:
B-but muh rush hour and muh korean and muh montecristo and muh link with international experience ;_:

I think I'm the only one who predicts CLG to be in the same skill level as C9 and my EU predictions were far off, so I wouldn't give myself too much attention :p With that said, I think that Nien was a bigger problem than most people assume and I'm excited to see this new roster play. I also think that C9 aren't some untouchable gods and their dominance was more about NA in general being bad rather than them being Korean level. I just don't think they can get much better than they are now, and CLG definitely can. I just believe, that's what bandwagon fans do


CLG might get at C9's level at the time the playoffs begin. The same is true for TSM and maybe even Dignitas. Teams will struggle when they get new players, CLG in particular because their playstyle revolves so much about teamplay and smart map movements. Seraph needs time to improve his communication and if you listen to his interviews he still has trouble communicating with Dexter.
I cheer for CLG as well but I'll temper my expectations for later in the season. They will lose against C9 at sunday but should win against Curse and EG. The match against LMQ will be interesting.

And damn it, I have a race tonight so I'll miss the first game most likely.


Based Riot predicts CLG to win and go 4-0 this week, if we can believe that fantasy l0l.

Well, current meta favours CLG a lot. It's not like CLG can't win in different meta but no Corki spam, mobile mages midlane and so on is veeeeery good for us. So if we're jumping from the gates instantly and not struggle with for example, 4-4 after 3 weeks, then we're going to be in great shape this season and i expect 20+ wins finally.
Even though, with general skill level going up, i will be ok with just top-2 in regular season, just to avoid possible nerve-wrecking matches.

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 20:35 AlterKot wrote:
Yeah, as I said in my previous big post - I don't think CLG is on C9 level right now, I just think they can be by the end of the split, and I wouldn't be suprised if they were able to beat current TSM (and everyone else but C9). And yeah I know that Seraph has trouble with Dexter's accent and it's not hard to see why :p I just don't think it's something he won't get used to after 1-2 months, especially with english tutoring.


Well, it's not like Seraph doesn't have an idea how CLG is playing, he is Korean in the end :D


Monte said on Summoning Insight not to expect too much for CLG for the first few weeks. And Link said that TSM is clearly the better team in an interview with Travis, let alone C9 who dumpstered TSM so hard, Regi might as well have been the mid

EDIT: I predict C9 with another 20+ win seasn. TSM to get really close to the 20 win mark, having dropped games to C(, CLG, LMQ, and 1 to Dig. CLG will still be in 3rd, but show flashes of brilliance to tease fanboys. LMQ will be a comfy 4th over Dig, a comfy 5th, over CRS a comfy 6th over the basement.
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Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
May 23 2014 14:07 GMT
#40
I hope this is going to be more exciting than EU LCS
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