• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:10
CEST 17:10
KST 00:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy5uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event14Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple5SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Lambo Talks: The Future of SC2 and more... Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
New season has just come in ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! BW General Discussion BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Bitcoin discussion thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 641 users

[NA LCS] Summer 2014 Super Week 1 - Page 15

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 144 Next
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 23 2014 19:58 GMT
#281
On May 24 2014 04:57 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:55 Sleight wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations.


FTFY

1-13 record the dream

c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve.


People said that after Summer split based on Worlds. Wrong. C9 is able to keep improving. We have yet to see them plateau. Their strategy, even early game, is Korean. If they work hard, maybe they can get there mechanically, though I don't think so. Still, they should be the best non-Korean team in the world within the year at this rate.


the sad thing is, at this point being the best non-korean team is like being the best foreigner in BW


But unlike BW, we have our own successful leagues, so we don't have to play their game. Except once a year when we hand them their multi-million dollar checks.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 19:59:36
May 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#282
On May 24 2014 04:56 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations.


FTFY

1-13 record the dream

c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve.


i'm not sure who you'd even replace on C9. I don't think they have an obvious weak link that would significantly improve the team.

Thats sort of why I think c9 is sort of in a weird quagmire. They've sort of maxed out on talent, really weird situation.

TSM just getting baited and walked around like dog.
liftlift > tsm
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 19:59:41
May 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#283
Honestly, sometimes i just wish that C9 will go ham on permanent basis.
They're overcautious a bit.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
May 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#284
On May 24 2014 04:58 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:57 KissBlade wrote:
Ugh at this rate, TSM 1-3 superweek.

Nah, C9 has a tendency to clown TSM but I really don't think they're going to lose to crs, complexity and EG.


That's not fair; nobody is going to lose to complexity.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#285
you watching ROTATIONS
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#286
Meh I don't think on an individual level C9 are that far behind the absolute best, sure balls might get clowned by save but so does nearly every single top laner in the world.
Glorious SEA doto
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#287
On May 24 2014 04:58 Fusilero wrote:
Nah, C9 has a tendency to clown TSM but I really don't think they're going to lose to crs, complexity and EG.

XPECIAL'S REVENGE
WESTRICE THE GOD
POBELTER LITERALLY > FAKER

#storylines
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#288
C9 should really lead the charge trying to Riot to fix their schedule in 2015. They are seriously capped if they continue to play only NA.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#289
pretty sure Hai could have just 1 shotted turtle there
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#290
On May 24 2014 04:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:56 Woony wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations.


FTFY

1-13 record the dream

c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve.


i'm not sure who you'd even replace on C9. I don't think they have an obvious weak link that would significantly improve the team.

Thats sort of why I think c9 is sort of in a weird quagmire. They've sort of maxed out on talent, really weird situation.

TSM just getting baited and walked around like dog.

I'm also not sure who you'd replace them with. Who's really all that much better than them in NA/EU?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#291
On May 24 2014 05:00 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:58 Fusilero wrote:
Nah, C9 has a tendency to clown TSM but I really don't think they're going to lose to crs, complexity and EG.

XPECIAL'S REVENGE
WESTRICE THE GOD
POBELTER LITERALLY > FAKER

#storylines

DYRUS GOING FOR THAT MOST WESTRICE PLAYER AWARD
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#292
On May 24 2014 04:59 Fusilero wrote:
Meh I don't think on an individual level C9 are that far behind the absolute best, sure balls might get clowned by save but so does nearly every single top laner in the world.


Hai is the biggest weakness when it comes to that but he performs a vital function within the team.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#293
that fucking pillar so good.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#294
On May 24 2014 04:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:56 Woony wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations.


FTFY

1-13 record the dream

c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve.


i'm not sure who you'd even replace on C9. I don't think they have an obvious weak link that would significantly improve the team.

Thats sort of why I think c9 is sort of in a weird quagmire. They've sort of maxed out on talent, really weird situation.

TSM just getting baited and walked around like dog.

Not gonna lie hearing this opinion makes me cry.Literally every single pro player has said c9's bot lane for example have gotten really good.They havent lost lanes for no reason lately at all.They went even vs fnatic as twitch/morgana vs karma/graves for god's sake.....C9 have good lanes.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#295
Sneaky is alone is so much better than when the low individual player skill tag was put on c9, it's more of a myth than anything when comparihg to their peers at this point.
Carrilord has arrived.
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
May 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#296
Does Bjergsen have himself in Fantasy LCS or something? He's playing so scared.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#297
On May 24 2014 05:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
C9 should really lead the charge trying to Riot to fix their schedule in 2015. They are seriously capped if they continue to play only NA.


If C9 no longer wishes to be capped and really wants to win Worlds, then they should drop out of NA LCS and just go to Korea and play OGN full time. Anything short of that will make no difference in their ability to win Worlds, no matter how Riot changes the schedule, imho.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#298
On May 24 2014 05:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
C9 should really lead the charge trying to Riot to fix their schedule in 2015. They are seriously capped if they continue to play only NA.


You know, i start to realise that WCS system ain't that bad.
If Riot could implement it, it would have been ridiculously good.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
May 23 2014 20:02 GMT
#299
I have both Hai and Amazing in my Fantasy team.

I don't know what to feel anymore.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 23 2014 20:02 GMT
#300
lol
lol
lol

Why the fuck did I tune into this?
It's your boy Guzma!
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 144 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Summer Champion…
11:00
Group Stage 1 - Group B
WardiTV1195
TKL 211
IndyStarCraft 187
Rex139
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .306
TKL 211
IndyStarCraft 187
Harstem 174
Rex 139
mcanning 110
ProTech88
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 40712
Rain 12302
Bisu 1989
Jaedong 1307
EffOrt 1105
Shuttle 1071
Mini 860
Larva 806
BeSt 757
firebathero 645
[ Show more ]
ZerO 427
Snow 357
ggaemo 238
Soma 173
Hyun 136
Rush 118
Sharp 76
Soulkey 47
sorry 46
ToSsGirL 40
Aegong 36
TY 34
yabsab 32
sas.Sziky 31
Sexy 30
Backho 30
HiyA 29
sSak 23
soO 20
Terrorterran 19
ajuk12(nOOB) 18
JulyZerg 15
scan(afreeca) 14
IntoTheRainbow 11
Rock 10
zelot 9
Shine 8
SilentControl 8
Hm[arnc] 4
Zeus 0
Stormgate
Codebar45
Dota 2
Gorgc7740
qojqva3715
Dendi1174
XcaliburYe307
League of Legends
febbydoto4
Counter-Strike
ScreaM3028
flusha563
kRYSTAL_69
Other Games
FrodaN2492
singsing2310
B2W.Neo1340
hiko1007
DeMusliM404
crisheroes388
Beastyqt352
KnowMe241
Fuzer 236
RotterdaM220
XaKoH 199
ViBE98
ArmadaUGS83
Mew2King56
SortOf35
Trikslyr29
ZerO(Twitch)17
StateSC210
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 58
• 3DClanTV 19
• davetesta10
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki18
• Michael_bg 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2969
• WagamamaTV426
League of Legends
• Nemesis3097
• Jankos1233
Other Games
• Shiphtur94
Upcoming Events
OSC
8h 50m
The PondCast
18h 50m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
19h 50m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
LiuLi Cup
1d 19h
Online Event
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Contender
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
4 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.