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On May 24 2014 04:57 Woony wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 04:55 Sleight wrote:On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote: Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations. FTFY 1-13 record the dream c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve. People said that after Summer split based on Worlds. Wrong. C9 is able to keep improving. We have yet to see them plateau. Their strategy, even early game, is Korean. If they work hard, maybe they can get there mechanically, though I don't think so. Still, they should be the best non-Korean team in the world within the year at this rate. the sad thing is, at this point being the best non-korean team is like being the best foreigner in BW
But unlike BW, we have our own successful leagues, so we don't have to play their game. Except once a year when we hand them their multi-million dollar checks.
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On May 24 2014 04:56 Woony wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote: Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations. FTFY 1-13 record the dream c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve. i'm not sure who you'd even replace on C9. I don't think they have an obvious weak link that would significantly improve the team. Thats sort of why I think c9 is sort of in a weird quagmire. They've sort of maxed out on talent, really weird situation.
TSM just getting baited and walked around like dog.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Honestly, sometimes i just wish that C9 will go ham on permanent basis. They're overcautious a bit.
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On May 24 2014 04:58 Fusilero wrote:Nah, C9 has a tendency to clown TSM but I really don't think they're going to lose to crs, complexity and EG.
That's not fair; nobody is going to lose to complexity.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Meh I don't think on an individual level C9 are that far behind the absolute best, sure balls might get clowned by save but so does nearly every single top laner in the world.
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On May 24 2014 04:58 Fusilero wrote: Nah, C9 has a tendency to clown TSM but I really don't think they're going to lose to crs, complexity and EG. XPECIAL'S REVENGE WESTRICE THE GOD POBELTER LITERALLY > FAKER
#storylines
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United States37500 Posts
C9 should really lead the charge trying to Riot to fix their schedule in 2015. They are seriously capped if they continue to play only NA.
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pretty sure Hai could have just 1 shotted turtle there
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On May 24 2014 04:59 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 04:56 Woony wrote:On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote: Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations. FTFY 1-13 record the dream c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve. i'm not sure who you'd even replace on C9. I don't think they have an obvious weak link that would significantly improve the team. Thats sort of why I think c9 is sort of in a weird quagmire. They've sort of maxed out on talent, really weird situation. TSM just getting baited and walked around like dog. I'm also not sure who you'd replace them with. Who's really all that much better than them in NA/EU?
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On May 24 2014 05:00 AlterKot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 04:58 Fusilero wrote: Nah, C9 has a tendency to clown TSM but I really don't think they're going to lose to crs, complexity and EG. XPECIAL'S REVENGE WESTRICE THE GOD POBELTER LITERALLY > FAKER #storylines DYRUS GOING FOR THAT MOST WESTRICE PLAYER AWARD
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On May 24 2014 04:59 Fusilero wrote: Meh I don't think on an individual level C9 are that far behind the absolute best, sure balls might get clowned by save but so does nearly every single top laner in the world.
Hai is the biggest weakness when it comes to that but he performs a vital function within the team.
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that fucking pillar so good.
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On May 24 2014 04:59 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 04:56 Woony wrote:On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote: Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations. FTFY 1-13 record the dream c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve. i'm not sure who you'd even replace on C9. I don't think they have an obvious weak link that would significantly improve the team. Thats sort of why I think c9 is sort of in a weird quagmire. They've sort of maxed out on talent, really weird situation. TSM just getting baited and walked around like dog. Not gonna lie hearing this opinion makes me cry.Literally every single pro player has said c9's bot lane for example have gotten really good.They havent lost lanes for no reason lately at all.They went even vs fnatic as twitch/morgana vs karma/graves for god's sake.....C9 have good lanes.
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Sneaky is alone is so much better than when the low individual player skill tag was put on c9, it's more of a myth than anything when comparihg to their peers at this point.
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Does Bjergsen have himself in Fantasy LCS or something? He's playing so scared.
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On May 24 2014 05:00 NeoIllusions wrote: C9 should really lead the charge trying to Riot to fix their schedule in 2015. They are seriously capped if they continue to play only NA.
If C9 no longer wishes to be capped and really wants to win Worlds, then they should drop out of NA LCS and just go to Korea and play OGN full time. Anything short of that will make no difference in their ability to win Worlds, no matter how Riot changes the schedule, imho.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 24 2014 05:00 NeoIllusions wrote: C9 should really lead the charge trying to Riot to fix their schedule in 2015. They are seriously capped if they continue to play only NA.
You know, i start to realise that WCS system ain't that bad. If Riot could implement it, it would have been ridiculously good.
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I have both Hai and Amazing in my Fantasy team.
I don't know what to feel anymore.
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lol lol lol
Why the fuck did I tune into this?
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