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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 23 2014 19:58 GMT
#281
On May 24 2014 04:57 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:55 Sleight wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations.


FTFY

1-13 record the dream

c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve.


People said that after Summer split based on Worlds. Wrong. C9 is able to keep improving. We have yet to see them plateau. Their strategy, even early game, is Korean. If they work hard, maybe they can get there mechanically, though I don't think so. Still, they should be the best non-Korean team in the world within the year at this rate.


the sad thing is, at this point being the best non-korean team is like being the best foreigner in BW


But unlike BW, we have our own successful leagues, so we don't have to play their game. Except once a year when we hand them their multi-million dollar checks.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 19:59:36
May 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#282
On May 24 2014 04:56 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations.


FTFY

1-13 record the dream

c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve.


i'm not sure who you'd even replace on C9. I don't think they have an obvious weak link that would significantly improve the team.

Thats sort of why I think c9 is sort of in a weird quagmire. They've sort of maxed out on talent, really weird situation.

TSM just getting baited and walked around like dog.
liftlift > tsm
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 19:59:41
May 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#283
Honestly, sometimes i just wish that C9 will go ham on permanent basis.
They're overcautious a bit.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
May 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#284
On May 24 2014 04:58 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:57 KissBlade wrote:
Ugh at this rate, TSM 1-3 superweek.

Nah, C9 has a tendency to clown TSM but I really don't think they're going to lose to crs, complexity and EG.


That's not fair; nobody is going to lose to complexity.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#285
you watching ROTATIONS
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 23 2014 19:59 GMT
#286
Meh I don't think on an individual level C9 are that far behind the absolute best, sure balls might get clowned by save but so does nearly every single top laner in the world.
Glorious SEA doto
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#287
On May 24 2014 04:58 Fusilero wrote:
Nah, C9 has a tendency to clown TSM but I really don't think they're going to lose to crs, complexity and EG.

XPECIAL'S REVENGE
WESTRICE THE GOD
POBELTER LITERALLY > FAKER

#storylines
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#288
C9 should really lead the charge trying to Riot to fix their schedule in 2015. They are seriously capped if they continue to play only NA.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#289
pretty sure Hai could have just 1 shotted turtle there
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#290
On May 24 2014 04:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:56 Woony wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations.


FTFY

1-13 record the dream

c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve.


i'm not sure who you'd even replace on C9. I don't think they have an obvious weak link that would significantly improve the team.

Thats sort of why I think c9 is sort of in a weird quagmire. They've sort of maxed out on talent, really weird situation.

TSM just getting baited and walked around like dog.

I'm also not sure who you'd replace them with. Who's really all that much better than them in NA/EU?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#291
On May 24 2014 05:00 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:58 Fusilero wrote:
Nah, C9 has a tendency to clown TSM but I really don't think they're going to lose to crs, complexity and EG.

XPECIAL'S REVENGE
WESTRICE THE GOD
POBELTER LITERALLY > FAKER

#storylines

DYRUS GOING FOR THAT MOST WESTRICE PLAYER AWARD
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#292
On May 24 2014 04:59 Fusilero wrote:
Meh I don't think on an individual level C9 are that far behind the absolute best, sure balls might get clowned by save but so does nearly every single top laner in the world.


Hai is the biggest weakness when it comes to that but he performs a vital function within the team.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#293
that fucking pillar so good.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 23 2014 20:00 GMT
#294
On May 24 2014 04:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 04:56 Woony wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:50 AsnSensation wrote:
On May 24 2014 04:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Is anyone really surprised? TSM can't beat c9 if they get huge early advantage from lanesat all. If they go even past 15 minutes, C9 wins cuz better rotations.


FTFY

1-13 record the dream

c9's early game still vulnerable imo. they'll never be a top tier team compared to koreans due to individual skill cap. I sorta have the same feeling that thorin has, that c9 has sorta maxed out on potential, and they can't replace anyone without risking destroying what they already ahve.


i'm not sure who you'd even replace on C9. I don't think they have an obvious weak link that would significantly improve the team.

Thats sort of why I think c9 is sort of in a weird quagmire. They've sort of maxed out on talent, really weird situation.

TSM just getting baited and walked around like dog.

Not gonna lie hearing this opinion makes me cry.Literally every single pro player has said c9's bot lane for example have gotten really good.They havent lost lanes for no reason lately at all.They went even vs fnatic as twitch/morgana vs karma/graves for god's sake.....C9 have good lanes.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#295
Sneaky is alone is so much better than when the low individual player skill tag was put on c9, it's more of a myth than anything when comparihg to their peers at this point.
Carrilord has arrived.
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
May 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#296
Does Bjergsen have himself in Fantasy LCS or something? He's playing so scared.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#297
On May 24 2014 05:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
C9 should really lead the charge trying to Riot to fix their schedule in 2015. They are seriously capped if they continue to play only NA.


If C9 no longer wishes to be capped and really wants to win Worlds, then they should drop out of NA LCS and just go to Korea and play OGN full time. Anything short of that will make no difference in their ability to win Worlds, no matter how Riot changes the schedule, imho.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#298
On May 24 2014 05:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
C9 should really lead the charge trying to Riot to fix their schedule in 2015. They are seriously capped if they continue to play only NA.


You know, i start to realise that WCS system ain't that bad.
If Riot could implement it, it would have been ridiculously good.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
May 23 2014 20:02 GMT
#299
I have both Hai and Amazing in my Fantasy team.

I don't know what to feel anymore.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 23 2014 20:02 GMT
#300
lol
lol
lol

Why the fuck did I tune into this?
It's your boy Guzma!
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