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lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
April 19 2014 20:17 GMT
#761
Very interesting to pick Karma mid with backs against their wall
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-19 20:17:30
April 19 2014 20:17 GMT
#762
CLG vs TSM

Bans: Syndra, Evelynn, Leblanc
Bans: Kha'zix, Lulu, Soraka

Picks: Jax, Nocturne, Nami, Vayne, Orianna
Picks: Thresh, Lucian, Mundo, Xin Zhao, Karma

KARMA MID WAT UP
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 19 2014 20:17 GMT
#763
TSM pls dat comp.
Never Knows Best.
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
April 19 2014 20:17 GMT
#764
dl on vayne

ok 1-1 ;~;
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
April 19 2014 20:17 GMT
#765
why mundo again ? o:
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
April 19 2014 20:17 GMT
#766
If this goes to late game I don't see anyone killing the vayne lol.
Best Teemo World
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
April 19 2014 20:17 GMT
#767
dafuq karma? TSM is really low on damage if it gets late
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-19 20:18:14
April 19 2014 20:17 GMT
#768
On April 20 2014 05:16 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel CLG should have just picked TF


I think they're worried about the Xin + possible assassin from Bjerg. Last game the TF was perfect because they already pigeoned Bjerg into Nid.

Also the Nami was setting up the Vayne, and Ori + Jax/Noc is very good as well. CLG's 3 threat comps area really fun to watch, with the mid laner relegating to a more support role.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-19 20:18:30
April 19 2014 20:18 GMT
#769
On April 20 2014 05:07 Dan HH wrote:
I like Monte but you guys always overestimate western coaches here. He's been at CLG for a year or so, whenever they lose games 'they didn't listen to him', whenever they win games 'it was all Monte'.

Same with Cloud 9, a crapload of people were attributing their success to Alex Penn last season who is indeed a knowledgeable dude, but look he left and C9 is still #1 and Coast is still poop even with him.

Of course they matter but nowhere near the proportion seen here

I absolutely agree on this. From what Monte said himself he is mainly responsible for general stuff, like attitude to the game etc. He will probably also point to some strategies as he sees the Korean using etc. But the specific ingame stuff is probably mostly done by players.
We should also keep in mind that most Western teams dont have coaches at all.
Off-season = best season
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
April 19 2014 20:18 GMT
#770
Has C9 v Curse happened yet? Just got on. :/
Call me Sunday
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 19 2014 20:18 GMT
#771
On April 20 2014 05:18 InfSunday wrote:
Has C9 v Curse happened yet? Just got on. :/


Nope. At least 1 more of CLG v TSM before that.
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Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
April 19 2014 20:18 GMT
#772
Anyone have a good explanation for Karmid?
One Love
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
April 19 2014 20:18 GMT
#773
I feel like Karma mid is so useless unless you can rotate really well.
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
April 19 2014 20:19 GMT
#774
WE ARE THE 58%
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 19 2014 20:19 GMT
#775
On April 20 2014 05:18 InfSunday wrote:
Has C9 v Curse happened yet? Just got on. :/

No but it is already over.
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
April 19 2014 20:19 GMT
#776
Da fuk, why didn't TSM ban nocturne?

Wow two hypercarries on CLG - Jax and Vayne. Late game CLG should win. As long as CLG can defend properly against towers and stuff, they should win late game. They may have to give up some dragons in the mid-game since both Jax and Vayne will need to power up and Nocturne will need to farm stacks. I think that CLG will try to trade dragon for a tower if possible.

That mid Karma is interesting. TSM comp is quite interesting - has good pick and engage ability with Karma speed and Thresh hook. Also has good disengage.
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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
April 19 2014 20:19 GMT
#777
On April 20 2014 05:18 Sleight wrote:
Anyone have a good explanation for Karmid?


Shields, poke, sustain, waveclear, mobility. Has everything a mid needs.
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JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-19 20:20:05
April 19 2014 20:19 GMT
#778
I've been loving Karma top/mid this season even before she caught on as support again. It's great for 2v2s/jungle fights early on in solo queue.
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
April 19 2014 20:19 GMT
#779
This should be interesting - CLG's late game is SO much stronger, but they haven't been playing for late game.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 19 2014 20:19 GMT
#780
On April 20 2014 05:18 Sleight wrote:
Anyone have a good explanation for Karmid?


In general, it's just weaker Lulu, let's put it like that.
And if we're ok with mid Soraka, mid Karma isn't worse.
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