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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:36 Redox wrote: Zed counters Ziggs, so why is he the worst pick then? He doesnt really counter.It is a farm lane.Dunno how can a stop the zed splitpush though.They have 3 exhausts lol | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:36 Redox wrote: Zed counters Ziggs, so why is he the worst pick then? Exhaust destroy him. There is a reason why Froggen stopped playing him in 4.5. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:37 nafta wrote: He doesnt really counter.It is a farm lane.Dunno how can a stop the zed splitpush though.They have 3 exhausts lol Sry I am not inclined to believe you over the pro players that have played this matchup, i.e. Bjergsen and Pobelter. edit: Although the exhaust is a fair point. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:33 nafta wrote: When you swap the lane advantage is gone.Jax seems to be the best top pick atm according to eu teams. Surprised no teleport on top laners and weirdly enough wickd has exhaust(maybe to try to 1v1 zed lategame). Renekton still stomps on jax post level 4-5 on equal farm. It's only an issue is renekton can't shut him down when they finally match up around that point. | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:38 Redox wrote: Sry I am not inclined to believe you over the pro players that have played this matchup, i.e. Bjergsen and Pobelter. But no one played it in 4.5. | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
And Pobelter is one of the worst mids in NA let alone internationally. And Bjergsen is much stronger than most of his opponents. Both cases make their picks irrelevant. A great player can dominate a bad matchup by just being the better player. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:40 Sleight wrote: And Pobelter is one of the worst mids in NA let alone internationally. And Bjergsen is much stronger than most of his opponents. Both cases make their picks irrelevant. A great player can dominate a bad matchup by just being the better player. THat's the worst kind of reasoning I've ever seen, you realize that Pobelter mostly played the matchup from Zed's perspective right? | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:40 Sleight wrote: And Pobelter is one of the worst mids in NA let alone internationally. And Bjergsen is much stronger than most of his opponents. Both cases make their picks irrelevant. A great player can dominate a bad matchup by just being the better player. I am not talking about how that matchup has played out but what they said about the matchup specifically. So Pobelter being worse than Bjergsen is kinda irrelevant when weighing his opnion against a random forum poster. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:42 Redox wrote: I am not talking about how that matchup has played out but what they said about the matchup specifically. So Pobelter being worse than Bjergsen is kinda irrelevant when weighing his opnion against a random forum poster. Well maybe on pro level it is different but in my games and everyone I have asked who is from mid d1 to challenger everyone says it is farm matchup even pre 4.5. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
ah well or get a kill on profeeder shook | ||
Kiett
United States7639 Posts
I KILL YOU | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:42 Redox wrote: I am not talking about how that matchup has played out but what they said about the matchup specifically. So Pobelter being worse than Bjergsen is kinda irrelevant when weighing his opnion against a random forum poster. Terrible logic. By extension, none of us should say anything but "Wow the pros are so good" since we are all random forum posters. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:44 Sleight wrote: Terrible logic. By extension, none of us should say anything but "Wow the pros are so good" since we are all random forum posters. huh? Of course anyone can say what they want. I just said I wont weigh their opnion higher than that of a pro, I think I should be free to do so. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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qotsager
Germany585 Posts
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Sleight
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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