Lol i thought "Weel" is Dutch word for "whirlpool" which EU LCS is obviously. Alliance 2-0 and Fnatic 1-1, Gambit will lose. Roccat usually have troubles with CW i'm interested in seeing how will plot twist this time.
On February 28 2014 03:16 Numy wrote: If this is a mid lulu that is really weird. Goes against Froggen's natural tendencies a lot.
you mean to actually play fotm champions when they're fotm and not 3 months later? I agree!
No I mean to not farm perma and actually teamfight mid game. Seems it isn't a mid lulu, makes a lot more sense for it to be support and just taking it away from xpeke.
On February 28 2014 03:31 Swords wrote: Wtf was Cyanide doing there?
Cyanide: Worth
He was there in time for the counter gank and it was like he decided not to mandrop because he was within walking distance, but then he didn't get there in time.
Giving froggen karthus is just genius. He can farm minions while dead. He can farm minions while teamfighting. It means froggen can do froggen stuff while still participating in the rest of the game. Genius.
On February 28 2014 03:43 Amethyst21 wrote: My goodness do fnatic look terrible
Alliance playing pretty well all things considered but fnatic are just rolling over and dying
They clearly have no confidence at this point. They either play completely afraid of dying (giving up free towers) or they go for desperation kills (that Cyanide mandrop on mid that gave Froggen another kill).
On February 28 2014 03:43 Badboyrune wrote: Giving froggen karthus is just genius. He can farm minions while dead. He can farm minions while teamfighting. It means froggen can do froggen stuff while still participating in the rest of the game. Genius.
And he doesnt have to move out of lane to help other lanes.
On February 28 2014 03:43 AsnSensation wrote: Not sure what's harder to believe, that Fnatic really loses 8 games in a row after havnig a 7 game streak or that Alliance wins a game in an oddweek.
Xpeke might seriously be benched at this point his performances post royal has really been shit in pretty much every game.
Don't know who's worse Xpeke or Cyanide. At least Xpeke has a track record of being alright where as Cyanide has only been decent at worlds and terrible pre/post worlds.
Reqiuem probably takes Lucian, Pantheon and Ali down to 60% alone at this point.
cool to see Froggen and WickD back on their season 2 champs. It's actually impressive how Xpeke maintains 10cs/min despite feeding like a boss farming seems to be only thing he's still competent at.
Also Irelia about to become the second champion in eu lcs that's been picked more than once with a 100% winrate as well as the champion with highest kda. rito nref plz
On February 28 2014 03:43 AsnSensation wrote: Not sure what's harder to believe, that Fnatic really loses 8 games in a row after havnig a 7 game streak or that Alliance wins a game in an oddweek.
Xpeke might seriously be benched at this point his performances post royal has really been shit in pretty much every game.
Don't know who's worse Xpeke or Cyanide. At least Xpeke has a track record of being alright where as Cyanide has only been decent at worlds and terrible pre/post worlds.
Cyanide's been pretty horrible. Even when he has an advantage he doesn't leverage it into anything.
When he isn't ahead he just sits in brushes and wastes time.
EDIT: I think I saw him ult once this game, and it got him killed in a 2v1.
That one ward in that Baron bush saved Fnatic. It spotted that ALL was doing Baron and that Froggen was in the bush letting them pop him before he could do much.
On February 28 2014 03:49 onlywonderboy wrote: Froggen got popped and ALL still almost won the fight. He stays alive for about 2 seconds and they win lol.
On February 28 2014 03:47 wei2coolman wrote: What was VES's losing streak?
First fnatic will hit MYM's 0-8 in the final weeks, then bjergsenless' wolves 0-9, next is dragonborns going on an 0-13 streak. VES never had a long enough streak of defeats to match it. There's still SF5's 0-16 run in GPL which fnatic may chase for.
Congratulations to fnatic for getting the MYM award for going 0-8, a loss to gambit will net them the Bjergsenless wolves award. Can they go for the dragonborns? Tune in next time on EU LCS
They probably thought that Requiem is still down, I actually think it just came up when Froggen died but still knocking 4 item Karthus into your team is never a good idea ^^
On February 28 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote: Congratulations to fnatic for getting the MYM award for going 0-8, a loss to gambit will net them the Bjergsenless wolves award. Can they go for the dragonborns? Tune in next time on EU LCS
They can hit it next week btw. It's super week and they can just match it. But i have big doubts :D
On February 28 2014 03:58 Swords wrote: Fnatic are collectively on tilt, they just look horrible and I don't think it's that other teams are better, their mental state is just shit.
Their early / midgame they play like they feel like they've lost already. No aggressive rotations, very little jungle pressure.
On February 28 2014 03:58 Swords wrote: Fnatic are collectively on tilt, they just look horrible and I don't think it's that other teams are better, their mental state is just shit.
Their early / midgame they play like they feel like they've lost already. No aggressive rotations, very little jungle pressure.
To be fair cyanide has always had very little jungle pressure. Bar a bizarre overperformance at world on aatrox that's how he's always been.
On February 28 2014 03:58 Swords wrote: Fnatic are collectively on tilt, they just look horrible and I don't think it's that other teams are better, their mental state is just shit.
Their early / midgame they play like they feel like they've lost already. No aggressive rotations, very little jungle pressure.
To be fair cyanide has always had very little jungle pressure. Bar a bizarre overperformance at world on aatrox that's how he's always been.
It's so bizarre though, because there's almost no pressure from the jungle but then cyanide is also down on creeps.
In this meta, you need heavy jungle pressure on the midlane early if you want a chance.
On February 28 2014 03:59 TitusVI wrote: Some teams say spring split isnt that important but with that kind of play level fanatic wont go to worlds.
They could lose the rest of their games this split. Win relegations 2-1 and then come in 2nd or 3rd and go to worlds. So long as they make it into the next split and play well they're fine.
Obviously, getting relegated is something you want to avoid, but, if you can stay in the LCS, spring split really doesn't matter that much. Unless your entire team goes on tilt for a year due to bad games in the spring.
On February 28 2014 03:58 Swords wrote: Fnatic are collectively on tilt, they just look horrible and I don't think it's that other teams are better, their mental state is just shit.
Their early / midgame they play like they feel like they've lost already. No aggressive rotations, very little jungle pressure.
To be fair cyanide has always had very little jungle pressure. Bar a bizarre overperformance at world on aatrox that's how he's always been.
It's so bizarre though, because there's almost no pressure from the jungle but then cyanide is also down on creeps.
In this meta, you need heavy jungle pressure on the midlane early if you want a chance.
I don't think Pantheon is a great champion for Cyanide. He canceled at least 2 mandrops (if not more), did one under turret to trade kills, and then had two decent ones that didn't matter at all because fnatic were so far behind.
Compare that to Snoopeh last week in NA where he got a good early gank off and then mandropped the everliving shit out of mid once he hit 6 (when the midlaner was actually there).
When Pantheon hits 6 it should mean free ganks/counter ganks because of your ult - that's one of Pantheon's biggest strengths, and he didn't manage to do it properly once.
I felt Soaz could have punished the Irelia pick even more... Fnatic floundered pretty hard during midgame. Alliance did a really good job rotating early on.
Fnatic is playing like balls right now but tbh they're probably still better than the challenger teams, even k0uless C9.EU and aminless NiP unless a team like SK Prime (OR EVEN GAMERS2) are gonna pull a roccat and shock the world.
Soaz did fine in the laning phase. I dunno what you guys are expecting but against an experienced Irelia 20-30 cs up is about as well as you can do in a pro game. His mid to later game moves were what was suspect. The main problem for me is Peke's struggles in the mid lane. Mid is too important in LoL and it affect the whole map negatively when he fails.
On February 28 2014 04:09 onlywonderboy wrote: He is by far the saltiest pro about the current Top lane meta. At least the most vocal anyway.
He doesn't have to. Could just be like zionspartan and just carry his whole fucking team. He needs to quit being a whiny soloqueue player and just carry.
On February 28 2014 04:09 onlywonderboy wrote: He is by far the saltiest pro about the current Top lane meta. At least the most vocal anyway.
He doesn't have to. Could just be like zionspartan and just carry his whole fucking team. He needs to quit being a whiny soloqueue player and just carry.
Zionspartan plays jax and has a mid laner that actually wins his lanes, not entirely fair.
On February 28 2014 04:12 Slow Motion wrote: Soaz did fine in the laning phase. I dunno what you guys are expecting but against an experienced Irelia 20-30 cs up is about as well as you can do in a pro game. His mid to later game moves were what was suspect. The main problem for me is Peke's struggles in the mid lane. Mid is too important in LoL and it affect the whole map negatively when he fails.
Well he already was 10 cs up on lvl 1. He really didnt gain much more than 10 cs subsequently. If that is the standard, Irelia is a perfeclty fine pick vs Renekton, as she is stronger later on.
On February 28 2014 04:09 onlywonderboy wrote: He is by far the saltiest pro about the current Top lane meta. At least the most vocal anyway.
He doesn't have to. Could just be like zionspartan and just carry his whole fucking team. He needs to quit being a whiny soloqueue player and just carry.
Zionspartan plays jax and has a mid laner that actually wins his lanes, not entirely fair.
But fnatic has a botlane, Coast doesn't, and both junglers are equally worthless
On February 28 2014 04:09 onlywonderboy wrote: He is by far the saltiest pro about the current Top lane meta. At least the most vocal anyway.
He doesn't have to. Could just be like zionspartan and just carry his whole fucking team. He needs to quit being a whiny soloqueue player and just carry.
Zionspartan plays jax and has a mid laner that actually wins his lanes, not entirely fair.
Jax is actually a good point. Soaz could play him as well, also great vs Irelia.
On February 28 2014 04:09 onlywonderboy wrote: He is by far the saltiest pro about the current Top lane meta. At least the most vocal anyway.
He doesn't have to. Could just be like zionspartan and just carry his whole fucking team. He needs to quit being a whiny soloqueue player and just carry.
Zionspartan plays jax and has a mid laner that actually wins his lanes, not entirely fair.
Jax is actually a good point. Soaz could play him as well, also great vs Irelia.
Jax pick or not, Soaz is just bitching about meta, but there are perfectly good examples of players doing well without it. It just requires niche implementation, smart pick, and team comp forging around the champ. Also, Yasuo not banned or pick. :O
On February 28 2014 04:20 onlywonderboy wrote: Oh didn't even see the Noc pick. Haven't seen him for a while (inb4 someone mentions a game I missed :p)
Pretty sure this is first noc pick this split. Nocturne should be able to farm pretty hard, gunna have to build a lot of damage to supplement his team's lack of damage.
On February 28 2014 04:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Lol, wei2coolman thinks that Zion > sOAZ? GG.
Oh hue. Lulu can't carry alone, SHC.
I didn't say that. I said he needs the same mentality as Zion. That means you gotta have the mentality of having to carry the shit out of your team. Doing "good" in lane meaning you're absolved of blame, is not the right mentality. The mentality has to be "I gotta fucking carry this shit".
On February 28 2014 04:21 TitusVI wrote: Well a pro player should adapt to any meta change. But maybe that is too much.
The dade at Worlds argument.
even as a pro player you have favourite champs which you simply can play better or playstyles which you can play better. So yes people should adapt but it often also means that people play worse with different picks
On February 28 2014 04:21 TitusVI wrote: Well a pro player should adapt to any meta change. But maybe that is too much.
The dade at Worlds argument.
even as a pro player you have favourite champs which you simply can play better or playstyles which you can play better. So yes people should adapt but it often also means that people play worse with different picks
Okay impaler is building damage, some damage concerns are kind of alleviated. Still think especially with bot lane losing SHC's comp isn't feeling good
On February 28 2014 04:40 Slow Motion wrote: Wait is this a trinity force Vayne? Am I out of the loop or something or is that just crazy?
It's not crazy. this is how you build top-lane vayne, the idea is you go for strong 2 item timing, and then you can itemize 3rd defensive item, then LW for 4th, and another defensive item.
turns her into the ultimate duelist.
I'm really surprised Mimer is holding the lane so well, figured he would be further behind.
To be fair the main reason people were shitting on neo-SK was because jesiz was really bad until recently, he had a pathetic champion pool (Ban orianna/nidalee and he goes cry in a corner until ziggs became overpowered), lost nearly every lane and was virtually useless (I still remember him being straight dumpstered 1v1 in riven vs kassadin, it made no sense) Hell in the promos moopz took a dump on him every time even when he got orianna, he was fortunate that haydal SHC kept giving freddy start of S4 mundo.
On February 28 2014 05:08 nafta wrote: Has fnatic lost to every single team now or not yet?Maybe that is what they need to stop the losing streak.That put an end to the winning streak.
On February 28 2014 05:08 nafta wrote: Has fnatic lost to every single team now or not yet?Maybe that is what they need to stop the losing streak.That put an end to the winning streak.
On February 28 2014 05:08 nafta wrote: Has fnatic lost to every single team now or not yet?Maybe that is what they need to stop the losing streak.That put an end to the winning streak.
Yes, last week already.
Well then.Time to bench their best player(rekkles) so everyone else starts playing better.Worked with nrated lol.
On February 28 2014 05:08 nafta wrote: Has fnatic lost to every single team now or not yet?Maybe that is what they need to stop the losing streak.That put an end to the winning streak.
Yes, last week already.
Well then.Time to bench their best player(rekkles) so everyone else starts playing better.Worked with nrated lol.
On February 28 2014 05:08 nafta wrote: Has fnatic lost to every single team now or not yet?Maybe that is what they need to stop the losing streak.That put an end to the winning streak.
Yes, last week already.
Well then.Time to bench their best player(rekkles) so everyone else starts playing better.Worked with nrated lol.
and they rename to clg.eu! that would be worthy of the clg ways
On February 28 2014 05:08 nafta wrote: Has fnatic lost to every single team now or not yet?Maybe that is what they need to stop the losing streak.That put an end to the winning streak.
Yes, last week already.
Well then.Time to bench their best player(rekkles) so everyone else starts playing better.Worked with nrated lol.
I have a better idea. Swap Rekkles into the jungle so he can have more impact there and help with fnatic's shotcalling. Put Cyanide on adc, since he likes to play passively.
After a few weeks, dump Yellowstar for Kazmitch and put Rekkles and Cyanide back to their original positions.
On February 28 2014 05:32 onlywonderboy wrote: At least Dyrus is playing well in the meta lol
I don't know why Dyrus is complaining, that's literally his meta, and fits his playstyle.
Also, Mil so fucking bad, what was that dragon attempt.
I think it's more so a complaint in regards to soloqueue since tank meta so dependent on teammates not feeding until you can actually do something to impact the game. I don't think he minds it in the competitive aspect.
On February 28 2014 06:03 LightningStrike wrote: The Elise top didn't work I guess lol....
When your whole team doesn't have any damage ofc it doesn't work. It was original 50/50 opponent for Renekton in Season 3, and almost nothing changed since then in this matchup.
On February 28 2014 06:03 LightningStrike wrote: The Elise top didn't work I guess lol....
When your whole team doesn't have any damage ofc it doesn't work. It was original 50/50 opponent for Renekton in Season 3, and almost nothing changed since then in this matchup.
You mean Aatrox? Oh and ya the Composition for Mill didn't have much damage though compared to Gambit :|
On February 28 2014 06:03 LightningStrike wrote: The Elise top didn't work I guess lol....
When your whole team doesn't have any damage ofc it doesn't work. It was original 50/50 opponent for Renekton in Season 3, and almost nothing changed since then in this matchup.
You mean Aatrox? Oh and ya the Composition for Mill didn't have much damage though compared to Gambit :|
Elise is good against fotm toplaners like Mundo, Shyvana and Renekton. So Darien pulled Aatrox and kev1n still stayed on par.
And tomorrow Fnatic can really stop losing streak. Game 1 against Gambit? 6 victories after it. Game 2 against Gambit? 7 losses after it. Game 3 against Gambit? 8 *what?* after it.
This made me aware that Roccat is maybe the only LCS team with a real coach. As in hes doing the strats, picks and bans etc. Probably a big reason for their success.
On February 28 2014 06:22 Redox wrote: This made me aware that Roccat is maybe the only LCS team with a real coach. As in hes doing the strats, picks and bans etc. Probably a big reason for their success.
Monte seems like someone who would do that aswell for CLG.
On February 28 2014 06:22 Redox wrote: This made me aware that Roccat is maybe the only LCS team with a real coach. As in hes doing the strats, picks and bans etc. Probably a big reason for their success.
Monte seems like someone who would do that aswell for CLG.
Could be related to there succces :p
I can't imagine CLG actually following what anyone else says as more than just suggestions.
On February 28 2014 06:22 Redox wrote: This made me aware that Roccat is maybe the only LCS team with a real coach. As in hes doing the strats, picks and bans etc. Probably a big reason for their success.
Monte seems like someone who would do that aswell for CLG.
Could be related to there succces :p
I can't imagine CLG actually following what anyone else says as more than just suggestions.
On February 28 2014 06:22 Redox wrote: This made me aware that Roccat is maybe the only LCS team with a real coach. As in hes doing the strats, picks and bans etc. Probably a big reason for their success.
Monte seems like someone who would do that aswell for CLG.
Could be related to there succces :p
I imagine he was very active and involved with the team when he stayed at the CLG house but being in Korea is pretty hard
On February 28 2014 06:10 Ryuu314 wrote: I think Mil tried to steal away Elise jungle, but it simply just didn't work out.
Well top was fine, mid and jungle were bigger problems.
Agreed, but the Elise pick top didn't really punish the Aatrox pick as hard as Mil would like. Plus, I think Elise in the jungle with a different top (or even Lee) would've been better.
On February 28 2014 06:22 Redox wrote: This made me aware that Roccat is maybe the only LCS team with a real coach. As in hes doing the strats, picks and bans etc. Probably a big reason for their success.
Monte seems like someone who would do that aswell for CLG.
Could be related to there succces :p
I can't imagine CLG actually following what anyone else says as more than just suggestions.
They seem to be playing much smarter than before, they're no longer pathetically losing dragons because doublelift was freezing a lane to get a bit more CS as the team losing all their objectives.
On February 28 2014 06:28 wei2coolman wrote: 2nd time we've seen Nocturne come out against pantheon. Is this some new Pantheon counter that just happened to not work out earlier?
On February 28 2014 06:22 Redox wrote: This made me aware that Roccat is maybe the only LCS team with a real coach. As in hes doing the strats, picks and bans etc. Probably a big reason for their success.
Monte seems like someone who would do that aswell for CLG.
Could be related to there succces :p
I can't imagine CLG actually following what anyone else says as more than just suggestions.
neo-CLG is vastly different than old CLG.
I think the idea is you can respond to mandrop ganks with paranoia.
What I really want to see if Panth mid/Nocturne jungle where you mandrop behind a lane while paranoia is on so they can't see you coming in.
On February 28 2014 06:22 Redox wrote: This made me aware that Roccat is maybe the only LCS team with a real coach. As in hes doing the strats, picks and bans etc. Probably a big reason for their success.
Monte seems like someone who would do that aswell for CLG.
Could be related to there succces :p
I imagine he was very active and involved with the team when he stayed at the CLG house but being in Korea is pretty hard
They're speaking every day, working with voice comms and Monte is watching every their scrim with analysing it after. If CLG win split, NA and Korean CLG fans have to give him flowers or other stuff. Everyone.
I'm pleased to see the emergence of Nocturne as a soft counterpick to Pantheon. Intelligent adaption to the meta instead of nerfs/buffs determining the meta.
On February 28 2014 06:42 Amethyst21 wrote: I'm pleased to see the emergence of Nocturne as a soft counterpick to Pantheon. Intelligent adaption to the meta instead of nerfs/buffs determining the meta.
It's really fun to see stuff like that too. Unfortunately Nocturne's gonna have more trouble next patch with the fear changes.
On February 28 2014 06:45 onlywonderboy wrote: I audibly gasped out frustration with that Wild Growth saving Unlimited and my roommate asked me what was going on.
I had to stop myself from screaming out loud "OH COME ON" when the ult came at the absolute last second.
Sees 4 ppl and a large wave at 2nd bot tower, sits idly mid and lets the tower fall. Doesnt walk to 2nd tier mid tower to hit it (seeing 4 ppl bot, why not). Hell, he could at least have gone and taken the enemy teams wraiths or something. He literally didnt do anything for half a minute :O
And can they just stop trying to gank with pantheon ult.
Have been out the loop for a couple of weeks, what's the deal with all the mid Lulu's tonight? last time I''ve seen that was when Lulu was first released and Riot did their usual knee jerk reaction on her Q scaling. What's the sudden increase in popularity about?
On February 28 2014 07:00 jimthelege wrote: Have been out the loop for a couple of weeks, what's the deal with all the mid Lulu's tonight? last time I''ve seen that was when Lulu was first released and Riot did their usual knee jerk reaction on her Q scaling. What's the sudden increase in popularity about?
Strong laner, strong utility. Cuz putting extra 1k health and 80% movespeed on your bruiser is pretty strong.
CW shoudl group, they have decent poke on their team. these stalled out games are so stupidly boring.
On February 28 2014 07:00 jimthelege wrote: Have been out the loop for a couple of weeks, what's the deal with all the mid Lulu's tonight? last time I''ve seen that was when Lulu was first released and Riot did their usual knee jerk reaction on her Q scaling. What's the sudden increase in popularity about?
W's movement speed is scaling with AP, big scales on shields and ultimates and 80% slow with no cd. In good hands Lulu has almost no counterplay what was shown by top players on KR ladder.
On February 28 2014 07:00 jimthelege wrote: Have been out the loop for a couple of weeks, what's the deal with all the mid Lulu's tonight? last time I''ve seen that was when Lulu was first released and Riot did their usual knee jerk reaction on her Q scaling. What's the sudden increase in popularity about?
Strong laner, strong utility. Cuz putting extra 1k health and 80% movespeed on your bruiser is pretty strong
Would I be right in assuming nothin has changed then? just playing her like an uber support?
On February 28 2014 07:00 jimthelege wrote: Have been out the loop for a couple of weeks, what's the deal with all the mid Lulu's tonight? last time I''ve seen that was when Lulu was first released and Riot did their usual knee jerk reaction on her Q scaling. What's the sudden increase in popularity about?
Strong laner, strong utility. Cuz putting extra 1k health and 80% movespeed on your bruiser is pretty strong
Would I be right in assuming nothin has changed then? just playing her like an uber support?
Well you now buy Lichbane for pretty damn strong scaling. You can burst squishys in 1 combo lategame, just like alex did in the last game.
On February 28 2014 07:00 jimthelege wrote: Have been out the loop for a couple of weeks, what's the deal with all the mid Lulu's tonight? last time I''ve seen that was when Lulu was first released and Riot did their usual knee jerk reaction on her Q scaling. What's the sudden increase in popularity about?
Strong laner, strong utility. Cuz putting extra 1k health and 80% movespeed on your bruiser is pretty strong
Would I be right in assuming nothin has changed then? just playing her like an uber support?
Passive - Pix, Faerie Companion Added a 0.15 Ability Power ratio Base damage reduced to 9 / 18 / 27 / 36 / 45 / 54 / 63 / 72 / 81 (+0.15 Ability Power) (from 9 / 21 / 33 / 45 / 57 / 69 / 81 / 93 / 105 (+0 Ability Power) Q – Glitterlance Rather than decaying to 0% over a certain duration, the slow now decays to 1% per 7.5 Ability Power over its duration W – Whimsy Movement Speed bonus now scales at +1% per 10 Ability Power (0.1 AP Ratio) Removed the Ability Power boost Base movement speed increase reduced to 30% (from 35%) E - Help Pix! Offensive damage Ability Power ratio reduced to 0.4 (from 0.6)
On February 28 2014 07:00 jimthelege wrote: Have been out the loop for a couple of weeks, what's the deal with all the mid Lulu's tonight? last time I''ve seen that was when Lulu was first released and Riot did their usual knee jerk reaction on her Q scaling. What's the sudden increase in popularity about?
Strong laner, strong utility. Cuz putting extra 1k health and 80% movespeed on your bruiser is pretty strong
Would I be right in assuming nothin has changed then? just playing her like an uber support?
You can play support with great success as Nyph showed today for example. But ignoring such utility in that bruiser meta is ridiculous.
On February 28 2014 07:00 jimthelege wrote: Have been out the loop for a couple of weeks, what's the deal with all the mid Lulu's tonight? last time I''ve seen that was when Lulu was first released and Riot did their usual knee jerk reaction on her Q scaling. What's the sudden increase in popularity about?
Strong laner, strong utility. Cuz putting extra 1k health and 80% movespeed on your bruiser is pretty strong
Would I be right in assuming nothin has changed then? just playing her like an uber support?
Passive - Pix, Faerie Companion Added a 0.15 Ability Power ratio Base damage reduced to 9 / 18 / 27 / 36 / 45 / 54 / 63 / 72 / 81 (+0.15 Ability Power) (from 9 / 21 / 33 / 45 / 57 / 69 / 81 / 93 / 105 (+0 Ability Power) Q – Glitterlance Rather than decaying to 0% over a certain duration, the slow now decays to 1% per 7.5 Ability Power over its duration W – Whimsy Movement Speed bonus now scales at +1% per 10 Ability Power (0.1 AP Ratio) Removed the Ability Power boost Base movement speed increase reduced to 30% (from 35%) E - Help Pix! Offensive damage Ability Power ratio reduced to 0.4 (from 0.6)
man if cw wasn't 20k ahead... unlimited threw his ult 3 times in a row on a spellshield on Lucian. Although that's probably just sick prediction/reaction from vander.
CW still have no idea what to do lategame. There's no way that should've taken that long and I'm not sure they wouldn't have tried to baron dance for another 15 minutes had Roccat not taken action and started it up.
Amazing is amazing though. And they clearly have talent, so we'll see if they can learn.
On February 28 2014 07:17 ChaosTriggeR wrote: Oh, Irelia keeps her 100% winrate, nerfs incoming but in all seriousness as someone who plays Irelia a lot, I love seeing it get picked
I'm not convinced of Irelia pick. It's only niche pick that works with Sivir (and/or lulu), where other FotM combos work just as effectively with those combos without being suspect in lane.
On February 28 2014 07:17 ChaosTriggeR wrote: Oh, Irelia keeps her 100% winrate, nerfs incoming but in all seriousness as someone who plays Irelia a lot, I love seeing it get picked
I'm not convinced of Irelia pick. It's only niche pick that works with Sivir (and/or lulu), where other FotM combos work just as effectively with those combos without being suspect in lane.
Yeah, I would think a Mundo/Shyvana would be much more useful than Irelia due to tankiness while still fulfilling a frontliner/damage dealer combination for a top laner.
I mean I like Irelia, just the way champions are right now I wouldn't really justify it over some of the other "better" tanky top laners.
On February 28 2014 07:17 ChaosTriggeR wrote: Oh, Irelia keeps her 100% winrate, nerfs incoming but in all seriousness as someone who plays Irelia a lot, I love seeing it get picked
I'm not convinced of Irelia pick. It's only niche pick that works with Sivir (and/or lulu), where other FotM combos work just as effectively with those combos without being suspect in lane.
Well I don't actually think it's a good pick, her lane matchups are ok but shes significantly less tanky than trundle, mundo, shyvana. She needs someone else to initiate a teamfight with her because shes rather squishy and if the game lasts too long she can't jump on the ad/ap carry anymore. Still, its nice to see her in a competitive game regardless.
Well, it happens to everyone to choke, roccat is still 1st so there's still no need to worry so much about it. And who gives a fuck about hypetrain, let them just do their thing : )
On February 28 2014 07:27 Netto. wrote: Well, it happens to everyone to choke, roccat is still 1st so there's still no need to worry so much about it. And who gives a fuck about hypetrain, let them just do their thing : )
Gambit is tied with Roccat. Though Roccat is real "1st" cuz better head-to-head score.
On February 28 2014 07:27 Netto. wrote: Well, it happens to everyone to choke, roccat is still 1st so there's still no need to worry so much about it. And who gives a fuck about hypetrain, let them just do their thing : )
Gambit is tied with Roccat. Though Roccat is real "1st" cuz better head-to-head score.
Btw steve bakes cookies and TFS are two other challenger teams to look for, bit sad that they both have to go against eachother as there's some serious talent on both teams. Though steve bakes cookies has belgianbeast so lel (Also crazycaps is a great ADC so look for him from TFS)
On February 28 2014 07:31 Fusilero wrote: Btw steve bakes cookies and TFS are two other challenger teams to look for, bit sad that they both have to go against eachother as there's some serious talent on both teams. Though steve bakes cookies has belgianbeast so lel (Also crazycaps is a great ADC so look for him from TFS)
So what you're saying is this game is worth watching instead of catching up on Club Master VoDs?
On February 28 2014 07:31 Fusilero wrote: Btw steve bakes cookies and TFS are two other challenger teams to look for, bit sad that they both have to go against eachother as there's some serious talent on both teams. Though steve bakes cookies has belgianbeast so lel (Also crazycaps is a great ADC so look for him from TFS)
So what you're saying is this game is worth watching instead of catching up on Club Master VoDs?
What I'm saying is these two teams aren't going to go 0-20 surrender at 20 vs NiP or C9.EU. As far as early challenger round goes this is one of the better ones. Also belgianbeast is always worth watching.
On February 28 2014 07:31 Fusilero wrote: Btw steve bakes cookies and TFS are two other challenger teams to look for, bit sad that they both have to go against eachother as there's some serious talent on both teams. Though steve bakes cookies has belgianbeast so lel (Also crazycaps is a great ADC so look for him from TFS)
So what you're saying is this game is worth watching instead of catching up on Club Master VoDs?
What I'm saying is these two teams aren't going to go 0-20 surrender at 20 vs NiP or C9.EU. As far as early challenger round goes this is one of the better ones. Also belgianbeast is always worth watching.
Zeriouz did switch to top, lol? Fuck Riv though, i have nuff NA LCS with him to watch this. Better to play BW.
On February 28 2014 07:31 Fusilero wrote: Btw steve bakes cookies and TFS are two other challenger teams to look for, bit sad that they both have to go against eachother as there's some serious talent on both teams. Though steve bakes cookies has belgianbeast so lel (Also crazycaps is a great ADC so look for him from TFS)
So what you're saying is this game is worth watching instead of catching up on Club Master VoDs?
What I'm saying is these two teams aren't going to go 0-20 surrender at 20 vs NiP or C9.EU. As far as early challenger round goes this is one of the better ones. Also belgianbeast is always worth watching.
Zeriouz did switch to top, lol?
Zeriouz was always a top laner, I don't know why he came on LD as support instead of zychion I guess synergy or something.
On February 28 2014 07:31 Fusilero wrote: Btw steve bakes cookies and TFS are two other challenger teams to look for, bit sad that they both have to go against eachother as there's some serious talent on both teams. Though steve bakes cookies has belgianbeast so lel (Also crazycaps is a great ADC so look for him from TFS)
So what you're saying is this game is worth watching instead of catching up on Club Master VoDs?
What I'm saying is these two teams aren't going to go 0-20 surrender at 20 vs NiP or C9.EU. As far as early challenger round goes this is one of the better ones. Also belgianbeast is always worth watching.
Zeriouz did switch to top, lol?
Zeriouz was always a top laner, I don't know why he came on LD as support instead of zychion I guess synergy or something.
Not sold on Kayle after the nerfs, even Overpow passed on her.
On February 28 2014 08:12 Haasts wrote: Really enjoying watching this Draven/Vi + Zilean/Kayle comp from SBC. Zoom zoom!
really good synergy and well played indeed, we have seen teams "protect the vayne" but here draven is turned into a beast, not to mention vi / renekton are also superb targets for revive.
On February 28 2014 07:17 las91 wrote: There's this weird concept called consistency... I feel like only one team even knows what the term means in EU.
What are these games lol.
I hope you are talking about Fnatic, they've only switched gears once this split.
On February 28 2014 07:17 las91 wrote: There's this weird concept called consistency... I feel like only one team even knows what the term means in EU.
What are these games lol.
I hope you are talking about Fnatic, they've only switched gears once this split.
On February 28 2014 11:00 Headshot wrote: These EU LR threads move kinda slow.
EU games tend to be far more drawn out, and less entertaining cuz of it. Just look at the games today, some just took forever to close. We had teams with 5k~10k leads that weren't pressing towers, but kept trying to bait out jungle objectives like baron and buffs or continue farming, rather than just stomping people in.
On February 28 2014 11:00 Headshot wrote: These EU LR threads move kinda slow.
EU games tend to be far more drawn out, and less entertaining cuz of it. Just look at the games today, some just took forever to close. We had teams with 5k~10k leads that weren't pressing towers, but kept trying to bait out jungle objectives like baron and buffs or continue farming, rather than just stomping people in.
Oh god.. Wickd needs to learn proper voice control when ending his sentenses. Always finishing a sentense on a high note sounds so weird. Why do he do this?
Well TSM and CLG have more combined fanbase alone that most of the EU teams, so there's that. Many league players probably follow LCS in their native language as well (there are at least French and Polish streams). I dunno, maybe there are too many Europeans who have too good taste to watch LCS : )
I think more people from EU watch (also) NA then NA (also) watches EU. Na has some kind of additional drama in games and beside the rift thats pretty entertaining.
NA times for EU > 9pm - 1 am pretty easy to watch especially on the weekends.
EU times for NA > 10am/1pm - 2 pm/4pm during weekdays, not sure how strict university is in the states but last season when my schedule was relaxed i just said fuck it and stayed home to watch OGN because most of my classes they don't check for attendance. Other than that people that have to actually work or go to Highschool can't watch EU LCS probably.
Exactly. The timezone is killing the viewer base actually, I'm unable to watch NA LCS as a whole, because of the work I have early in the morning. I actually end up watching one game and that's it.
Well majority of writers are NA/KR I think? I know it's not the best excuse but EU is somewhere in between where it's clear EU teams aren't as good as Koreans (and probably not as good as CN) and it has a smaller competitive fanbase, so unless we get some interesting results at IEM or Worlds there's no real reason to cover them.
Look at it this way - KR and CN are the real enemies, NA is beloved underdog and EU is just that weird obstacle (there's always at least 1 member of Gambit that's seemingly underperforming, much of Fnatic's success came from setting up traps that teams finally got used to, earlier we had EG that seemed to play for the extreme lategame every game, now we have Roccat that plays more reactively than almost any other team and also falls back to defending and farming if they are behind).
Also EU is less popular simple, because less ppl stream. Who stream from LCS EU regularly? Almost no one. In prime time for EU most streamers are from NA (Qtpie itd.).
On February 28 2014 21:52 AlterKot wrote: Well, Alex does, Edward and Diamond sometimes, Alliance guys sometimes, Fnatic players do I believe, isn't that enough :p ?
On February 28 2014 11:00 Headshot wrote: These EU LR threads move kinda slow.
EU games tend to be far more drawn out, and less entertaining cuz of it. Just look at the games today, some just took forever to close. We had teams with 5k~10k leads that weren't pressing towers, but kept trying to bait out jungle objectives like baron and buffs or continue farming, rather than just stomping people in.
- stomping people in + throwing
Yea because I've never seen an EU team throw around Baron ever.
On February 28 2014 11:00 Headshot wrote: These EU LR threads move kinda slow.
EU games tend to be far more drawn out, and less entertaining cuz of it. Just look at the games today, some just took forever to close. We had teams with 5k~10k leads that weren't pressing towers, but kept trying to bait out jungle objectives like baron and buffs or continue farming, rather than just stomping people in.
- stomping people in + throwing
Yea because I've never seen an EU team throw around Baron ever.
On February 28 2014 11:00 Headshot wrote: These EU LR threads move kinda slow.
EU games tend to be far more drawn out, and less entertaining cuz of it. Just look at the games today, some just took forever to close. We had teams with 5k~10k leads that weren't pressing towers, but kept trying to bait out jungle objectives like baron and buffs or continue farming, rather than just stomping people in.
- stomping people in + throwing
Yea because I've never seen an EU team throw around Baron ever.
Once every three weeks isnt worth watching, check how much more popular are the NA comedies.
Oh god, there was enough drama about this article when it was released. It was based on Atrioc's personal experience while attending Worlds, it was not representative of the TL Writing Staff as a whole. Also I'm about 80% sure that I talked to him about it he said there was gonna be a 10th story about Fnatic and it ended up not getting posted, hence it being a weird number. I'll have to double check that though.
On March 01 2014 03:01 TitusVI wrote: I think we all agree that EU LCS is more for intellectual strategist viewers while NA LCS is more for the average minded people.
I disagree, nothing is more intellectual than trying to figure out the best way to start Baron.
On March 01 2014 03:01 TitusVI wrote: I think we all agree that EU LCS is more for intellectual strategist viewers while NA LCS is more for the average minded people.
And with this in mind, let's watch Fnatic go 0-9 after a 7-0 start.
On March 01 2014 03:21 Vega62a wrote: Fnatic pls. Roam. Pressure. Do the things you used to be amazing at.
Gragas vs Lulu, who takes that matchup? Anyone?
lulu i believe. she doesn't have a weak lane.
Okay, what the fuck fnatic. You have Sivir+Wukong combo, why da fuck do you pick Nidalee with that? Like holy shit, you get a free fucking zerging comp, and you choose nidalee with that? Like wut. Jesus christ, no wonder fnatic is at like a fucking 8 game losing streak.
On March 01 2014 03:24 Gorsameth wrote: I love how gambit can get the other team to ban any random champion they played the game before regardless of the strength of said champion.
yeah loled at the aatrox ban after Darien played it for the first time in 4 months and bought manamune.
On March 01 2014 03:24 Gorsameth wrote: I love how gambit can get the other team to ban any random champion they played the game before regardless of the strength of said champion.
yeah loled at the aatrox ban after Darien played it for the first time in 4 months and bought manamune.
Double Ap again. Soaz on Lulu ~
This will either go really well (lulu so pokey in toplane early) or backfire utterly. If cyanide forgets that WK needs to be tanky, Fnatic has no shot.
On March 01 2014 03:24 Gorsameth wrote: I love how gambit can get the other team to ban any random champion they played the game before regardless of the strength of said champion.
yeah loled at the aatrox ban after Darien played it for the first time in 4 months and bought manamune.
Double Ap again. Soaz on Lulu ~
This will either go really well (lulu so pokey in toplane early) or backfire utterly. If cyanide forgets that WK needs to be tanky, Fnatic has no shot.
The problem is you cant zone mundo hard enough. He can last hit with cleavers before he gets enough sustain.
On March 01 2014 03:24 Gorsameth wrote: I love how gambit can get the other team to ban any random champion they played the game before regardless of the strength of said champion.
yeah loled at the aatrox ban after Darien played it for the first time in 4 months and bought manamune.
Double Ap again. Soaz on Lulu ~
This will either go really well (lulu so pokey in toplane early) or backfire utterly. If cyanide forgets that WK needs to be tanky, Fnatic has no shot.
The problem is you cant zone mundo hard enough. He can last hit with cleavers before he gets enough sustain.
On March 01 2014 03:27 wei2coolman wrote: I'm so fucking confused, fnatic got lulu+wukong+sivir, and they fucking choose nidalee. like wtf. jesus christ, this pick&ban phase from fnatic.
yeah I'm fine with them sticking to double ap actually but it's weird to pick Nid after they had Sivir, Wukong.
On March 01 2014 03:27 wei2coolman wrote: I'm so fucking confused, fnatic got lulu+wukong+sivir, and they fucking choose nidalee. like wtf. jesus christ, this pick&ban phase from fnatic.
On March 01 2014 03:24 Gorsameth wrote: I love how gambit can get the other team to ban any random champion they played the game before regardless of the strength of said champion.
yeah loled at the aatrox ban after Darien played it for the first time in 4 months and bought manamune.
Double Ap again. Soaz on Lulu ~
This will either go really well (lulu so pokey in toplane early) or backfire utterly. If cyanide forgets that WK needs to be tanky, Fnatic has no shot.
The problem is you cant zone mundo hard enough. He can last hit with cleavers before he gets enough sustain.
Are they playing on the post cleaver nerf patch?
It took me a second to realize you meant Mundo and thought you meant Black Cleaver and thought "the fuck, they nerfed Black Cleaver back in pre-season 3"
On March 01 2014 03:27 wei2coolman wrote: I'm so fucking confused, fnatic got lulu+wukong+sivir, and they fucking choose nidalee. like wtf. jesus christ, this pick&ban phase from fnatic.
yeah I'm fine with them sticking to double ap actually but it's weird to pick Nid after they had Sivir, Wukong.
Double AP is fine if you pick the right shit with it, but when you get the dream fucking Zerg/blitz comp open for you, and you decide to fracture your picks with nidalee, it's so stupid. Fnatic deserves to lose 9 in a row.
On March 01 2014 03:24 Gorsameth wrote: I love how gambit can get the other team to ban any random champion they played the game before regardless of the strength of said champion.
yeah loled at the aatrox ban after Darien played it for the first time in 4 months and bought manamune.
Double Ap again. Soaz on Lulu ~
This will either go really well (lulu so pokey in toplane early) or backfire utterly. If cyanide forgets that WK needs to be tanky, Fnatic has no shot.
The problem is you cant zone mundo hard enough. He can last hit with cleavers before he gets enough sustain.
Are they playing on the post cleaver nerf patch?
It took me a second to realize you meant Mundo and thought you meant Black Cleaver and thought "the fuck, they nerfed Black Cleaver back in pre-season 3"
Haha sorry about that. No, do you know if this is on the mundo cleaver nerf?
On March 01 2014 03:24 Gorsameth wrote: I love how gambit can get the other team to ban any random champion they played the game before regardless of the strength of said champion.
yeah loled at the aatrox ban after Darien played it for the first time in 4 months and bought manamune.
Double Ap again. Soaz on Lulu ~
This will either go really well (lulu so pokey in toplane early) or backfire utterly. If cyanide forgets that WK needs to be tanky, Fnatic has no shot.
The problem is you cant zone mundo hard enough. He can last hit with cleavers before he gets enough sustain.
Are they playing on the post cleaver nerf patch?
It took me a second to realize you meant Mundo and thought you meant Black Cleaver and thought "the fuck, they nerfed Black Cleaver back in pre-season 3"
Haha sorry about that. No, do you know if this is on the mundo cleaver nerf?
Inb4 all the humbugs come in and start spouting shit about the level of play and throws and bullshit this, bullshit that as always. Dont understand why these people feel the need to crap all over games instead of sitting back and enjoying them, they're playing at a higher level then you anyway D:
On March 01 2014 03:47 Fusilero wrote: Okay that's a dfg lulu, wut.
I don't think it's going to be DFG. He just got a lot of early gold, so he went for NLR just for sheer power, and then codex is for chalice i think. (or nashors)
On March 01 2014 03:47 Fusilero wrote: Okay that's a dfg lulu, wut.
I don't think it's going to be DFG. He just got a lot of early gold, so he went for NLR just for sheer power, and then codex is for chalice i think. (or nashors)
On March 01 2014 03:47 Fusilero wrote: Okay that's a dfg lulu, wut.
I don't think it's going to be DFG. He just got a lot of early gold, so he went for NLR just for sheer power, and then codex is for chalice i think. (or nashors)
Is it me, or are both twitch and azubu having lag issues this evening? Not like there's much to miss apparently, your usual "hey it's Fnatic, time to give them a free win" Gambit.
Again, 2 people in botlane to kill Darien. Gambit doesn't do jack fucking shit. like wut.
On March 01 2014 03:55 Vega62a wrote: Darien caught alone again. I think he's playing against the 8 loss-streak fnatic where the jungler never roamed, and not this fnatic.
Darien getting caught doesn't matter, if Gambit actually pressures the other 2 lanes, but they don't do jack shit. Genja was back in base while Darien was getting ganked, when he should have been pushing top lane. with Alex/Diamond should have been pushing mid.
Remember they mentioned at the start they had to delay because alex was feeling sick and couldn't start straight away. If he's vomiting between games it's kind of understandable :p
On March 01 2014 04:02 killerdog wrote: Remember they mentioned at the start they had to delay because alex was feeling sick and couldn't start straight away. If he's vomiting between games it's kind of understandable :p
Alex actually didn't do too bad. He was always up in cs and forced peke out of lane several times. This was a whole-team throw.
On March 01 2014 04:02 killerdog wrote: Remember they mentioned at the start they had to delay because alex was feeling sick and couldn't start straight away. If he's vomiting between games it's kind of understandable :p
Alex actually didn't do too bad. He was always up in cs and forced peke out of lane several times. This was a whole-team throw.
Just responding to the people commenting on how bad he's playing, or "last alex gragas game before worlds?" type comment
On March 01 2014 04:02 killerdog wrote: Remember they mentioned at the start they had to delay because alex was feeling sick and couldn't start straight away. If he's vomiting between games it's kind of understandable :p
Alex actually didn't do too bad. He was always up in cs and forced peke out of lane several times. This was a whole-team throw.
Just responding to the people commenting on how bad he's playing, or "last alex gragas game before worlds?" type comment
On March 01 2014 04:02 killerdog wrote: Remember they mentioned at the start they had to delay because alex was feeling sick and couldn't start straight away. If he's vomiting between games it's kind of understandable :p
Alex actually didn't do too bad. He was always up in cs and forced peke out of lane several times. This was a whole-team throw.
Why the fucking hell it's a throw? Fnatic played their poke comp perfectly, Gambit never were ahead to throw anything. Stop taking well-deserved victory from team who lost 8 games in a row.
So, Fnatic is on a road to 19-9. Let's see in few weeks how will it end.
On March 01 2014 04:02 killerdog wrote: Remember they mentioned at the start they had to delay because alex was feeling sick and couldn't start straight away. If he's vomiting between games it's kind of understandable :p
Alex actually didn't do too bad. He was always up in cs and forced peke out of lane several times. This was a whole-team throw.
Why the fucking hell it's a throw? Fnatic played their poke comp perfectly, Gambit never were ahead to throw anything. Stop taking well-deserved victory from team who lost 8 games in a row.
So, Fnatic is on a road to 19-9. Let's see in few weeks how will it end.
I meant that it took the whole team to lose, not just one person. Not that gambit threw a winning game. Chill sir.
On March 01 2014 04:02 killerdog wrote: Remember they mentioned at the start they had to delay because alex was feeling sick and couldn't start straight away. If he's vomiting between games it's kind of understandable :p
Alex actually didn't do too bad. He was always up in cs and forced peke out of lane several times. This was a whole-team throw.
Why the fucking hell it's a throw? Fnatic played their poke comp perfectly, Gambit never were ahead to throw anything. Stop taking well-deserved victory from team who lost 8 games in a row.
So, Fnatic is on a road to 19-9. Let's see in few weeks how will it end.
I meant that it took the whole team to lose, not just one person. Not that gambit threw a winning game. Chill sir.
It's a throw it's a loss. Use right terms at least.
So happy some of the disgusting Fnatic 7-X "dream" has stopped -_- Makes me loose hope in this community with that shit, not rooting for one team to win, but just for another to lose and feel bad.
On March 01 2014 04:10 wei2coolman wrote: Fnatic did good job early game, but I felt that Gambit had a lot of glaring mistakes throughout the mid game.
I think a lot of those were forced errors from Fnatic though. They did a good job of putting Gambit into bad spots.
It is good for Gambit. I hope after this they finally will learn how to play vs poke compositions. They lost 3rd game in Worlds to Nanjins with nidalee.
On March 01 2014 04:10 wei2coolman wrote: Fnatic did good job early game, but I felt that Gambit had a lot of glaring mistakes throughout the mid game.
I think a lot of those were forced errors from Fnatic though. They did a good job of putting Gambit into bad spots.
Ehhh, fnatic's pressure was standard stuff, though. It's not like they outrotated gambit in major engagement to out# gambit. In fact there were plenty of parts in that game where Gambit could have easily initiated a fight, where they had #'s advantage. Fnatics rotation was not impressive, they had a 5-6k gold lead in midgame, but instead of just shoving in 5v5 into a lane and abusing their strong poke comp, they decide to just continue farming and chasing darien, and wait for Gambit's bad rotation, rather than forcing their strength.
On March 01 2014 04:10 Slangen wrote: So happy some of the disgusting Fnatic 7-X "dream" has stopped -_- Makes me loose hope in this community with that shit, not rooting for one team to win, but just for another to lose and feel bad.
Come now this split doesn't really mean that much. It's better for them to go through any problems now then next split when they need to perform for worlds.
On March 01 2014 04:16 sataNik[pG] wrote: Gambit 100% lost in champ select. Impossible to engage or kill anyone vs lulu morg nida sivir.
LOL. 6 pages ago everyone was blaming Fnatic's pick and did right thing because Sivir with 3 poke ap makes no sense. Now it's Gambit who lost in champselect.
Different people, different analysis. On paper the Nid picked seemed weird because a lot of people expected them to go for engage because of Wu/Lulu/Sivir. But as it turns out with Nid it just kind of turns into a poke comp.
On March 01 2014 04:16 sataNik[pG] wrote: Gambit 100% lost in champ select. Impossible to engage or kill anyone vs lulu morg nida sivir.
LOL. 6 pages ago everyone was blaming Fnatic's pick and did right thing because Sivir with 3 poke ap makes no sense. Now it's Gambit who lost in champselect.
Pff.
I still dislike the nidalee pick after sivir+lulu+wukong. That comp would have crumbled if Gambit got early lead instead.
On March 01 2014 04:21 onlywonderboy wrote: Different people, different analysis. On paper the Nid picked seemed weird because a lot of people expected them to go for engage because of Wu/Lulu/Sivir. But as it turns out with Nid it just kind of turns into a poke comp.
I think Ori could've worked too, but she doesn't have the snappy mobility.
On March 01 2014 04:16 sataNik[pG] wrote: Gambit 100% lost in champ select. Impossible to engage or kill anyone vs lulu morg nida sivir.
LOL. 6 pages ago everyone was blaming Fnatic's pick and did right thing because Sivir with 3 poke ap makes no sense. Now it's Gambit who lost in champselect.
Pff.
Gambit's CC was cleaver coccon and thresh, on the other side they have insane mobility with lulu, sivir ulti, sivir shield, targeted black shield and binding. People not using brain is none of my business.
On March 01 2014 04:16 sataNik[pG] wrote: Gambit 100% lost in champ select. Impossible to engage or kill anyone vs lulu morg nida sivir.
LOL. 6 pages ago everyone was blaming Fnatic's pick and did right thing because Sivir with 3 poke ap makes no sense. Now it's Gambit who lost in champselect.
Pff.
Reminds me of ecenomy theory. At the end nothing is right and nothing is really wrong.
On March 01 2014 04:16 sataNik[pG] wrote: Gambit 100% lost in champ select. Impossible to engage or kill anyone vs lulu morg nida sivir.
LOL. 6 pages ago everyone was blaming Fnatic's pick and did right thing because Sivir with 3 poke ap makes no sense. Now it's Gambit who lost in champselect.
Pff.
Gambit's CC was cleaver coccon and thresh, on the other hand they have insane mobility with lulu, sivir ulti, sivir shield, targeted black shield and binding. People not using brain is none of my business.
Again, that's easy to say when you're ahead, cuz you can get away with suboptimal comp. A full engage comp would have better in a closer game. You can force advantage, and punish bad rotations even harder in midgame.
On March 01 2014 04:10 wei2coolman wrote: Fnatic did good job early game, but I felt that Gambit had a lot of glaring mistakes throughout the mid game.
I think a lot of those were forced errors from Fnatic though. They did a good job of putting Gambit into bad spots.
meh Diamond and Alex had an atrocious game. Diamond wasted all of his time basically, he didn't try a single gank, he didn't invade wu-kong, heck he didn't even move bot to back up Darien. That first blood was telegraphed so badly a silver level jungler should have been able to see it, instead he farmed his wolf camp.
Alex on the other hand seems to have missplaced his balls as well. There was no reason at all why they had to give up the first 4 Turrets, gragas waveclear alone should have been enough to solve that problem in necessary. Instead he stayed behind his turret (so far behind that he couldn't even throw a barrel on the caster minions at some points).
What bad spots were they put into? Gambit made the mistake of trying a lane swap. Their "winning" lane was stuck top. Then Genja made a typical Genja buy (vamp sceptre and dorans instead of BF sword, they were equal on minions) which delayed his BT significantly. In that window instead of joining the fights (heck instead of actually initiating a fight on the 5 squishies of Fnatic) gambit tried to lurk under turrets and somehow magically survive against a poke comp.
All in all I am quite disgusted by Gambits performance. Many teams before have figured out how to deal with a poke comp, grow some balls and engage them. Don't try to lurk behind turrets, that never works out.
On March 01 2014 04:25 Swords wrote: This might be the longest game ever - neither of these teams know how to play lategame.
As unlimited said, CW has amazing, Millenium has aranae. Wolves will stomp in 20
Millenium will stomp. Time to take tea and watch it. Kerp is total hit or miss, so after yesterday time to hit. If Creaton gets something instead of Sivir though.
Post-nerf kayle, steve bakes cookies used her pretty well as part of a "carry us pls motroco" comp. A "carry us pls forg1ven" comp would be pretty fun. I actually like this CW comp, few stats for trundle to steal. Free ult on a vladimir that's balls deep or protecting forg1ven, I actually favour the wolves comp
On March 01 2014 04:29 Fusilero wrote: Post-nerf kayle, steve bakes cookies used her pretty well as part of a "carry us pls motroco" comp. A "carry us pls forg1ven" comp would be pretty fun
Putting faith in their bot lane doesn't sound like too bad of a plan for CW
On March 01 2014 04:25 Swords wrote: This might be the longest game ever - neither of these teams know how to play lategame.
As unlimited said, CW has amazing, Millenium has aranae. Wolves will stomp in 20
Millenium will stomp. Time to take tea and watch it. Kerp is total hit or miss, so after yesterday time to hit. If Creaton gets something instead of Sivir though.
Not like Millenium has any kind of consistency in how they play... and CW are rather solid, so whatever, Millenium gonna derp again and embarass themselves I guess. Would be in line with yesterday and last week.
On March 01 2014 04:33 Alaric wrote: Why don't you hate Cait, Jinx and Sivir too?
At least Sivir has interesting team-comp dynamics behind the pick. Cait and Jinx are rotated among. I'm pretty sure Lucian has like 90% pickrate in EU games.
Well, time for amazing to put wolves on his back again Then again when forg1ven has already doubled creaton's CS I guess 1/3 of the problem has been resolved.
On March 01 2014 04:38 Fusilero wrote: Well, time for amazing to put wolves on his back again Then again when forg1ven has already doubled creaton's CS I guess 1/3 of the problem has been resolved.
Holy shit I didn't even realize the CS disparity there.
On March 01 2014 04:40 loSleb wrote: Is there anyone else that doesn't skill W on cait like forg1ven?
It makes somewhat sense if you're as far ahead as he currently is, especially vs Morgana I guess. The extra points in Piltover Peacemaker/ .90 Caliber Net might net him a kill that he wouldn't get due to Black Shield maybe
On March 01 2014 04:43 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Wtf is with CW's botlane this week. Two smashed botlanes in a row? Something new.
Unlimited feels so inconsistent, forg1ven always gets farmed and does well but unlimited has had a serious problem with giving away stupid deaths for a while. This week however he's been doing solid Git dunked aranae
Forget what I said: Millenium are very consistent in having Aranae be retarded as fuck. "Hey Vlad just dealt more than half my remaining HP with an EQ, I have no vision, Ima stick around."
On March 01 2014 04:46 onlywonderboy wrote: Amazing for MVP
Lets see if Riot gives the same guy MVP 2 weeks in a row. Would be deserved.
It's pretty sick how the junglers of the "lesser" teams are performing so dam well recently. Guess neo-SK isn't really a "lesser" team with their current form though?
On March 01 2014 04:46 onlywonderboy wrote: Amazing for MVP
Lets see if Riot gives the same guy MVP 2 weeks in a row. Would be deserved.
It's pretty sick how the junglers of the "lesser" teams are performing so dam well recently. Guess neo-SK isn't really a "lesser" team with their current form though?
Neo-SK are 3rd I don't think they can be considered lesser lol
On March 01 2014 04:46 onlywonderboy wrote: Amazing for MVP
Lets see if Riot gives the same guy MVP 2 weeks in a row. Would be deserved.
It's pretty sick how the junglers of the "lesser" teams are performing so dam well recently. Guess neo-SK isn't really a "lesser" team with their current form though?
Neo-SK are 3rd I don't think they can be considered lesser lol
To be honest, if they lose tonight, they will be...6th with 7th place in one game lol.
If Millenium takes two towers they're going to be even in gold. How? The last drake got stolen so it's 1v1, they're only 1 kill ahead, and crushed in farm across the board.
On March 01 2014 04:46 onlywonderboy wrote: Amazing for MVP
Lets see if Riot gives the same guy MVP 2 weeks in a row. Would be deserved.
It's pretty sick how the junglers of the "lesser" teams are performing so dam well recently. Guess neo-SK isn't really a "lesser" team with their current form though?
Neo-SK are 3rd I don't think they can be considered lesser lol
Weird to think they had to pull of the reverse sweep to qualify.
On March 01 2014 04:46 onlywonderboy wrote: Amazing for MVP
Lets see if Riot gives the same guy MVP 2 weeks in a row. Would be deserved.
It's pretty sick how the junglers of the "lesser" teams are performing so dam well recently. Guess neo-SK isn't really a "lesser" team with their current form though?
Neo-SK are 3rd I don't think they can be considered lesser lol
Weird to think they had to pull of the reverse sweep to qualify.
'k I have to admit, for all the shit I've been giving Millenium the way they used the pillar to ensure the Gragas ult was really good. ... Obviously they had to use it to save Caitlyn instead.
On March 01 2014 05:00 Redox wrote: Man I feel like Youngbuck is really letting his team down. Such a farmed Vlad should have more impact. And he just wasted ult+ghost.
On March 01 2014 05:00 Redox wrote: Man I feel like Youngbuck is really letting his team down. Such a farmed Vlad should have more impact. And he just wasted ult+ghost.
He doesn't seem very comfortable with Vlad. Giving up first blood despite using pool, ghost, and flash kind of gave it away.
On March 01 2014 05:00 Redox wrote: Man I feel like Youngbuck is really letting his team down. Such a farmed Vlad should have more impact. And he just wasted ult+ghost.
He doesn't seem very comfortable with Vlad. Giving up first blood despite using pool, ghost, and flash kind of gave it away.
It's odd because iirc he was one of the first top vlads in EU during S2
... the fuck. Millenium could have fought that (probably should have), and instead a Pillar to prevent themselves from coming close. The hell.
Their positioning has been shit too, first Aranae trying again to suicide, good thing Annie wasn't too trigger happy or he couldn't have received BS or used Rappel. Then Morgana positions like shit and SURPRISE, red buff Caitlyn dooms her. Sigh.
On March 01 2014 05:00 Redox wrote: Man I feel like Youngbuck is really letting his team down. Such a farmed Vlad should have more impact. And he just wasted ult+ghost.
He doesn't seem very comfortable with Vlad. Giving up first blood despite using pool, ghost, and flash kind of gave it away.
It's odd because iirc he was one of the first top vlads in EU during S2
tbh, vlad was fotm at that time, and was so strong it didn't take that much skill to play strongly at that time.
*yawn* this game so boring, neither of these teams know how to force objectives, keep trying to find picks with funky rotations. I feel like this is generally how most of the EU teams play
On March 01 2014 05:00 Redox wrote: Man I feel like Youngbuck is really letting his team down. Such a farmed Vlad should have more impact. And he just wasted ult+ghost.
He doesn't seem very comfortable with Vlad. Giving up first blood despite using pool, ghost, and flash kind of gave it away.
It's odd because iirc he was one of the first top vlads in EU during S2
Huh, didn't know that. That's really weird then, his pool timings seem way off compared to other pros who I've seen on top Vlad.
Forg1ven/Amazing deserve a better team than this. I think you could create a pretty good team from the bottom EU LCS teams like kev1n/amazing/froggen/forg1ven/migxa or something like that.
On March 01 2014 05:07 Fusilero wrote: Forg1ven/Amazing deserve a better team than this. I think you could create a pretty good team from the bottom EU LCS teams like kev1n/amazing/froggen/forg1ven/migxa or something like that.
Zorozero top/amazing jungle/ Froggen mid/ Forg1ve+migxa botlane, that team would be godly in EU.
Aranae and wasting escapes so he can die more easily once he stays in range, a long-running love story.
Lee should have died. That pillar was excellent. They had the damage. But they didn't dare, they were all "can we really? Is it 0K?" and then they tried to finish him off after Kayle came back to ult him.
On March 01 2014 05:07 Fusilero wrote: Forg1ven/Amazing deserve a better team than this. I think you could create a pretty good team from the bottom EU LCS teams like kev1n/amazing/froggen/forg1ven/migxa or something like that.
Same for many sports. NA would be pretty interesting too if you combined the lower tier teams to have Zion/Ship/Xmithie/Qt/Krepo.
On March 01 2014 05:07 Fusilero wrote: Forg1ven/Amazing deserve a better team than this. I think you could create a pretty good team from the bottom EU LCS teams like kev1n/amazing/froggen/forg1ven/migxa or something like that.
Zorozero top/amazing jungle/ Froggen mid/ Forg1ve+migxa botlane, that team would be godly in EU.
We should by now have learned that a team is not only about the individuals. Team cohesion and calling are at least as important. Youngbuck is probably very important for CW as the captain. He built this team after all.
On March 01 2014 05:09 Alaric wrote: . Lee should have died. That pillar was excellent. They had the damage. But they didn't dare, they were all "can we really? Is it 0K?" and then they tried to finish him off after Kayle came back to ult him.
Fucking. Indecisive. Idiots. <_<
I'm no pro but I can imagine it being quite a stressful environment and not everything is clear cut, slowed down like neo in the matrix, easy as pie when it comes to decision making. Is Millenium your favourite team? You seem really upset about that one play.
"We're weaker and have no burst between the two of us against a Vlad with Pool up... LET'S ALL IN."
... Yeah no I'm just going to give up on Millenium. On the bright side once they go down Millenium loses their presence in the LCS again, which can't be a bad thing.
On March 01 2014 05:09 Alaric wrote: . Lee should have died. That pillar was excellent. They had the damage. But they didn't dare, they were all "can we really? Is it 0K?" and then they tried to finish him off after Kayle came back to ult him.
Fucking. Indecisive. Idiots. <_<
I'm no pro but I can imagine it being quite a stressful environment and not everything is clear cut, slowed down like neo in the matrix, easy as pie when it comes to decision making. Is Millenium your favourite team? You seem really upset about that one play.
I'm especially sensitive to retarded/dumb play. A team gets beaten? Shit happens. A team gifts the win because they play in a retarded manner with no (or worse, bad) decision-making? Yeah, it makes me upset if I'm rooting for them. Too bad for me I used to root for Dignitas and Alternate. Hair-pulling every week.
On March 01 2014 05:15 Alaric wrote: "We're weaker and have no burst between the two of us against a Vlad with Pool up... LET'S ALL IN."
... Yeah no I'm just going to give up on Millenium. On the bright side once they go down Millenium loses their presence in the LCS again, which can't be a bad thing.
On March 01 2014 05:15 Alaric wrote: "We're weaker and have no burst between the two of us against a Vlad with Pool up... LET'S ALL IN."
... Yeah no I'm just going to give up on Millenium. On the bright side once they go down Millenium loses their presence in the LCS again, which can't be a bad thing.
Somewhere, Forellonlord is smiling.
Why are you saying this (real question)? I don't think he feels involved in any way since he decided to "retire", it's not that Alternate kicked him or something.
On March 01 2014 05:15 Alaric wrote: "We're weaker and have no burst between the two of us against a Vlad with Pool up... LET'S ALL IN."
... Yeah no I'm just going to give up on Millenium. On the bright side once they go down Millenium loses their presence in the LCS again, which can't be a bad thing.
Somewhere, Forellonlord is smiling.
Why are you saying this (real question)? I don't think he feels involved in any way since he decided to "retire", it's not that Alternate kicked him or something.
On March 01 2014 05:15 Alaric wrote: "We're weaker and have no burst between the two of us against a Vlad with Pool up... LET'S ALL IN."
... Yeah no I'm just going to give up on Millenium. On the bright side once they go down Millenium loses their presence in the LCS again, which can't be a bad thing.
Somewhere, Forellonlord is smiling.
Why are you saying this (real question)? I don't think he feels involved in any way since he decided to "retire", it's not that Alternate kicked him or something.
My only concern about amazing is his champion pool, his Lee Sin is really, really, really, really, really, really good but beyond that he hasn't been impressive off Lee Sin, like almost all of CW's wins have only featured him on Lee.
On March 01 2014 05:15 Alaric wrote: "We're weaker and have no burst between the two of us against a Vlad with Pool up... LET'S ALL IN."
... Yeah no I'm just going to give up on Millenium. On the bright side once they go down Millenium loses their presence in the LCS again, which can't be a bad thing.
On March 01 2014 05:09 Alaric wrote: . Lee should have died. That pillar was excellent. They had the damage. But they didn't dare, they were all "can we really? Is it 0K?" and then they tried to finish him off after Kayle came back to ult him.
Fucking. Indecisive. Idiots. <_<
I'm no pro but I can imagine it being quite a stressful environment and not everything is clear cut, slowed down like neo in the matrix, easy as pie when it comes to decision making. Is Millenium your favourite team? You seem really upset about that one play.
I'm especially sensitive to retarded/dumb play. A team gets beaten? Shit happens. A team gifts the win because they play in a retarded manner with no (or worse, bad) decision-making? Yeah, it makes me upset if I'm rooting for them. Too bad for me I used to root for Dignitas and Alternate. Hair-pulling every week.
I know what you mean...try being a Leafs fan haha. That definitely wasn't a game that showcased strong decision making from either side. Although I think that one fight at Baron probably deserves a bit more leeway than most of the rest of the game really. CW could've tried a lane swap or something at least.
On March 01 2014 05:17 Swords wrote: Should Amazing be the EU all-star for jungle? Guy is seriously impressive.
Probably, but he wont.
Fan voting really sucks ass ;(
I hate that it's event that counts for something and yet is determined entirely by fan voting.
I think it'd also be interesting to expand the roster beyond 5 players and have it cycle.
Maybe do a fan vote for starting 5 and a player vote to determine subs, and then cycle between games. Maybe make it so the final roster has one player from each team (although some teams really don't have an all star at any position, so I dunno if that'd be any good).
On March 01 2014 05:17 Swords wrote: Should Amazing be the EU all-star for jungle? Guy is seriously impressive.
Probably, but he wont.
Fan voting really sucks ass ;(
I hate that it's event that counts for something and yet is determined entirely by fan voting.
I think it'd also be interesting to expand the roster beyond 5 players and have it cycle.
Maybe do a fan vote for starting 5 and a player vote to determine subs, and then cycle between games. Maybe make it so the final roster has one player from each team (although some teams really don't have an all star at any position, so I dunno if that'd be any good).
I agree. If it's made by fan voting then it should be a spectacle and not some serious competition. Should have fun with it. Having players rotate inbetween games with some tag like system might be fun to watch lol
Were these threads always 100% player and team-bashing? Whenever I read here lately it's always just people spewing shit over the losing team, what the fuck?
I like this guy! (the guy being interviewed, who was it?)
On March 01 2014 05:24 Solaris.playgu wrote: Were these threads always 100% player and team-bashing? Whenever I read here lately it's always just people spewing shit over the losing team, what the fuck?
Some people on these forums are real elitist pricks where any small mistake at the highest level of play they will never reach means the team/player are shit-tier and they just wasted their time watching the game and deserve cancer. *Exaggerations may occur.
On March 01 2014 05:17 Swords wrote: Should Amazing be the EU all-star for jungle? Guy is seriously impressive.
Probably, but he wont.
Fan voting really sucks ass ;(
I hate that it's event that counts for something and yet is determined entirely by fan voting.
I think it'd also be interesting to expand the roster beyond 5 players and have it cycle.
Maybe do a fan vote for starting 5 and a player vote to determine subs, and then cycle between games. Maybe make it so the final roster has one player from each team (although some teams really don't have an all star at any position, so I dunno if that'd be any good).
I agree. If it's made by fan voting then it should be a spectacle and not some serious competition. Should have fun with it. Having players rotate inbetween games with some tag like system might be fun to watch lol
I dunno. Like any sport, it has to be good for the spectators. The NBA all-star game is entirely fan voted as well, and some years IS a pretty intense game (other years it can be a complete joke).
Oops wait, you said it counts for something. What does it count towards?
On March 01 2014 05:17 Swords wrote: Should Amazing be the EU all-star for jungle? Guy is seriously impressive.
Probably, but he wont.
Fan voting really sucks ass ;(
I hate that it's event that counts for something and yet is determined entirely by fan voting.
I think it'd also be interesting to expand the roster beyond 5 players and have it cycle.
Maybe do a fan vote for starting 5 and a player vote to determine subs, and then cycle between games. Maybe make it so the final roster has one player from each team (although some teams really don't have an all star at any position, so I dunno if that'd be any good).
I agree. If it's made by fan voting then it should be a spectacle and not some serious competition. Should have fun with it. Having players rotate inbetween games with some tag like system might be fun to watch lol
I dunno. Like any sport, it has to be good for the spectators. The NBA all-star game is entirely fan voted as well, and some years IS a pretty intense game (other years it can be a complete joke).
Oops wait, you said it counts for something. What does it count towards?
Last year it counted as a spot for worlds. Imagine the NBA all-star game, but whichever conference wins gets an extra spot in the playoffs.
On March 01 2014 05:24 Solaris.playgu wrote: Were these threads always 100% player and team-bashing? Whenever I read here lately it's always just people spewing shit over the losing team, what the fuck?
You never saw people shouting in front of their TVs while watching football saying how bad X player is ? This thread is pretty much the same.
On March 01 2014 05:24 Solaris.playgu wrote: Were these threads always 100% player and team-bashing? Whenever I read here lately it's always just people spewing shit over the losing team, what the fuck?
You never saw people shouting in front of their TVs while watching football saying how bad X player is ? This thread is pretty much the same.
I wonder how many times Alarics neighbours have complained about the noise.
On March 01 2014 05:17 Swords wrote: Should Amazing be the EU all-star for jungle? Guy is seriously impressive.
Probably, but he wont.
Fan voting really sucks ass ;(
I hate that it's event that counts for something and yet is determined entirely by fan voting.
I think it'd also be interesting to expand the roster beyond 5 players and have it cycle.
Maybe do a fan vote for starting 5 and a player vote to determine subs, and then cycle between games. Maybe make it so the final roster has one player from each team (although some teams really don't have an all star at any position, so I dunno if that'd be any good).
I agree. If it's made by fan voting then it should be a spectacle and not some serious competition. Should have fun with it. Having players rotate inbetween games with some tag like system might be fun to watch lol
I dunno. Like any sport, it has to be good for the spectators. The NBA all-star game is entirely fan voted as well, and some years IS a pretty intense game (other years it can be a complete joke).
Oops wait, you said it counts for something. What does it count towards?
Last year it counted as a spot for worlds. Imagine the NBA all-star game, but whichever conference wins gets an extra spot in the playoffs.
Oh, wow. That's a completely different story then and a terrible analogy on my part. Still, it is a spectator driven "sport".
On March 01 2014 05:17 Swords wrote: Should Amazing be the EU all-star for jungle? Guy is seriously impressive.
Probably, but he wont.
Fan voting really sucks ass ;(
I hate that it's event that counts for something and yet is determined entirely by fan voting.
I think it'd also be interesting to expand the roster beyond 5 players and have it cycle.
Maybe do a fan vote for starting 5 and a player vote to determine subs, and then cycle between games. Maybe make it so the final roster has one player from each team (although some teams really don't have an all star at any position, so I dunno if that'd be any good).
I agree. If it's made by fan voting then it should be a spectacle and not some serious competition. Should have fun with it. Having players rotate inbetween games with some tag like system might be fun to watch lol
I dunno. Like any sport, it has to be good for the spectators. The NBA all-star game is entirely fan voted as well, and some years IS a pretty intense game (other years it can be a complete joke).
Oops wait, you said it counts for something. What does it count towards?
Last year it counted as a spot for worlds. Imagine the NBA all-star game, but whichever conference wins gets an extra spot in the playoffs.
Oh, wow. That's a completely different story then and a terrible analogy on my part. Still, it is a spectator driven "sport".
I think your analogy is fine - sometimes fan voting leads to a fun game. Making fan voted games actually count never turns out that well. Baseball does it, but has a massive roster selected by team managers too. Even then it's weird to have that game count for home field advantage in the world series.
Like you said, it's a spectator driven sport, so fan voting and good games are obviously fun for fans and good for Riot's business. They just need to make it not count, and find other ways to create excitement and potentially involve more players because out of the 8 people per position there's sometimes more than just one person who deserves a spot. NA top lane is a good example of this.
On March 01 2014 05:32 onlywonderboy wrote: Tried to make a better version of the Amazing Kick but it keeps doing the green artifacting. Shame, it's so gif worthy.
It makes it better, as soon as lee ults the screen breaks. D: amazing so amazing he breaks gifs.
On March 01 2014 05:24 Solaris.playgu wrote: Were these threads always 100% player and team-bashing? Whenever I read here lately it's always just people spewing shit over the losing team, what the fuck?
What the fuck are you talking about? Let's just conveniently leaveout all the Amazing and Forgiven praise that just happened last game.
On March 01 2014 05:32 onlywonderboy wrote: Tried to make a better version of the Amazing Kick but it keeps doing the green artifacting. Shame, it's so gif worthy.
It makes it better, as soon as lee ults the screen breaks. D: amazing so amazing he breaks gifs.
Actually, now that I think about it, I had the same problem with DanDy's 5-Man Dragon Kick so it might be related to Lee's ultimate.
On March 01 2014 05:34 cythaze wrote: I loved the Dota2 TI3 allstar games where players manner paused, flamed each other, picked meepo (never picked otherwise) and so on.
makes for much more fun and it´s not that bad that teams are fan voted this way.
I love allstar games if it was actually casual, the problem is that there was a worlds slot at stake (Like Korea was for fun voting locodoco for Korean all-star ADC and it would have been fun to see loco/madlife again but when they learnt about the slot they immediately switched to pray). If it's just a for fun fanservice thing then I'd be okay with the votes but if there's a worlds slot at stake it's silly.
On March 01 2014 05:17 Swords wrote: Should Amazing be the EU all-star for jungle? Guy is seriously impressive.
Probably, but he wont.
Fan voting really sucks ass ;(
I hate that it's event that counts for something and yet is determined entirely by fan voting.
I think it'd also be interesting to expand the roster beyond 5 players and have it cycle.
Maybe do a fan vote for starting 5 and a player vote to determine subs, and then cycle between games. Maybe make it so the final roster has one player from each team (although some teams really don't have an all star at any position, so I dunno if that'd be any good).
I agree. If it's made by fan voting then it should be a spectacle and not some serious competition. Should have fun with it. Having players rotate inbetween games with some tag like system might be fun to watch lol
I dunno. Like any sport, it has to be good for the spectators. The NBA all-star game is entirely fan voted as well, and some years IS a pretty intense game (other years it can be a complete joke).
Oops wait, you said it counts for something. What does it count towards?
Last year it counted as a spot for worlds. Imagine the NBA all-star game, but whichever conference wins gets an extra spot in the playoffs.
Oh, wow. That's a completely different story then and a terrible analogy on my part. Still, it is a spectator driven "sport".
I think your analogy is fine - sometimes fan voting leads to a fun game. Making fan voted games actually count never turns out that well. Baseball does it, but has a massive roster selected by team managers too. Even then it's weird to have that game count for home field advantage in the world series.
Like you said, it's a spectator driven sport, so fan voting and good games are obviously fun for fans and good for Riot's business. They just need to make it not count, and find other ways to create excitement and potentially involve more players because out of the 8 people per position there's sometimes more than just one person who deserves a spot. NA top lane is a good example of this.
How about monetary incentive? Winning team gets X amount money kinda like a mini tourny.
Dunno how I'd go about getting more players involved tho.
The monetary prize would be kind of cool, and it would motivate the players to try. For more players I was thinking they could have the fan vote, but also a player vote, and a coaches/analysts vote or something. Then the top of each vote gets in. There are lots of ways to involve more players though, especially if it's just for fun - add a subs vote for the fans, or set it up so you have at least one rep from each team.
Then you can make up all kinds of crazy rules for subbing to make the event more fun - like worst k/d/a gets bumped out each game (that might be an awful idea, but I'm just throwing things out there).
On March 01 2014 05:34 cythaze wrote: I loved the Dota2 TI3 allstar games where players manner paused, flamed each other, picked meepo (never picked otherwise) and so on.
makes for much more fun and it´s not that bad that teams are fan voted this way.
I love allstar games if it was actually casual, the problem is that there was a worlds slot at stake (Like Korea was for fun voting locodoco for Korean all-star ADC and it would have been fun to see loco/madlife again but when they learnt about the slot they immediately switched to pray). If it's just a for fun fanservice thing then I'd be okay with the votes but if there's a worlds slot at stake it's silly.
What's the point of all stars if the best players on the planet aren't playing at their best? With that said, I think most regions would try their best anyway just for the pride of their region.
On March 01 2014 05:34 cythaze wrote: I loved the Dota2 TI3 allstar games where players manner paused, flamed each other, picked meepo (never picked otherwise) and so on.
makes for much more fun and it´s not that bad that teams are fan voted this way.
I love allstar games if it was actually casual, the problem is that there was a worlds slot at stake (Like Korea was for fun voting locodoco for Korean all-star ADC and it would have been fun to see loco/madlife again but when they learnt about the slot they immediately switched to pray). If it's just a for fun fanservice thing then I'd be okay with the votes but if there's a worlds slot at stake it's silly.
What's the point of all stars if the best players on the planet aren't playing at their best? With that said, I think most regions would try their best anyway just for the pride of their region.
You would think they try but then you get the EU with less then 2 days practice showing up.
On March 01 2014 05:34 cythaze wrote: I loved the Dota2 TI3 allstar games where players manner paused, flamed each other, picked meepo (never picked otherwise) and so on.
makes for much more fun and it´s not that bad that teams are fan voted this way.
I love allstar games if it was actually casual, the problem is that there was a worlds slot at stake (Like Korea was for fun voting locodoco for Korean all-star ADC and it would have been fun to see loco/madlife again but when they learnt about the slot they immediately switched to pray). If it's just a for fun fanservice thing then I'd be okay with the votes but if there's a worlds slot at stake it's silly.
What's the point of all stars if the best players on the planet aren't playing at their best? With that said, I think most regions would try their best anyway just for the pride of their region.
The same as any other all-star game - it's a fun chance to see the best players all on the same team together trying crazy stuff out.
One of the best All-Star game experiences I can remember is Pedro Martinez striking out Barry Bonds, Mark Mcgwire, and Sammy Sosa (three incredible hr hitters who were completely roided up) in a row to start an all star game. It was cool as fuck because you had the three best hitters in one league facing the best pitcher in the other. They all tried really hard out of pride, and Pedro striking them out in a row was crazy because you'd never see that caliber of a lineup in a real game.
In sports like basketball or football though people don't try as hard because getting injured during an allstar game would be insanely stupid. This wouldn't be a problem at all in LoL though, unless someone had a sleeper OP pick they didn't want to bring out so they could use it in LCS.
On March 01 2014 05:24 Solaris.playgu wrote: Were these threads always 100% player and team-bashing? Whenever I read here lately it's always just people spewing shit over the losing team, what the fuck?
What the fuck are you talking about? Let's just conveniently leaveout all the Amazing and Forgiven praise that just happened last game.
True, my bad. Still, a lot of pointless trash-talking going on.
someone check SK for performance enhancing drugs please, looking good. Kayle Support is pretty brilliant pick against this sivir wukong combo which we see for the third time already this week.
On March 01 2014 06:08 onlywonderboy wrote: I just can't bring myself to root for neo-SK. Maybe it's just residual disdain from the Ocelot era.
Pls we hate neo-SK because they keep beating roccat which makes them literally aranae. SK's teamfighting is better but alliance's rotations are seriously on point, I can't believe I just said that
On March 01 2014 06:08 onlywonderboy wrote: I just can't bring myself to root for neo-SK. Maybe it's just residual disdain from the Ocelot era.
Pls we hate neo-SK because they keep beating roccat which makes them literally aranae. SK's teamfighting is better but alliance's rotations are seriously on point, I can't believe I just said that
Fun game, feels like both teams are trying to play out the strengths of their comps, rather than just mindlessly trying to rotate to gain an advantage.
On March 01 2014 06:10 Amethyst21 wrote: Fun game, feels like both teams are trying to play out the strengths of their comps, rather than just mindlessly trying to rotate to gain an advantage.
Oh? Did Alliance challenge a Dragon while I wasn't looking?
They have completely given up on that objective which means they are 5k behind by now....
Frankly their warding is really really bad... They have the top laner with teleport but for some reason they cannot manage to be in time for a dragonfight...
On March 01 2014 06:16 Fusilero wrote: Oh man choosing between svenskeren and amazing for this weeks MVP is so hard.
I'd still go with Amazing.
I kinda agree, svenskeren has been fantastic but amazing is literally putting wolves on his back while svenskeren is just supplementing neo-SK's great play.
On March 01 2014 05:24 Solaris.playgu wrote: Were these threads always 100% player and team-bashing? Whenever I read here lately it's always just people spewing shit over the losing team, what the fuck?
You never saw people shouting in front of their TVs while watching football saying how bad X player is ? This thread is pretty much the same.
I wonder how many times Alarics neighbours have complained about the noise.
On March 01 2014 06:23 Headshot wrote: Aaaand Alliance blows everything on CandyPanda only for Kayle to save him with ult. Gg.
kayle ult needs to be removed or put on a karthus ult CD. The champion is obnoxious enough without it, but that ult can save you from any kind of stupidity.
Aatrox is also a huge part of this strategy, A just can't get any picks ever and are slowly getting whittled down by spears until SK can counter-engage and clean them up
[QUOTE]On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??[/Q] better question, why didn't shook camp top after the successfull gank against freddy? If they had killed aatrox 1-2 more times Irelia could have stomped him.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
eh. A mundo would've been worse than Irelia. Alliance already lacked the damage to kill anything. Downgrading (damage-wise) from Irelia to Mundo would've been worse. However, I do think a Shyvana or Malphite wouldve been much better. Shyv+Ori/Lulu combo is sick engage. Malphite would've solved their engage problems too.
I didn't see the whole game, but by the time I tuned in ~25 minutes in, the game was already over. SK was running a team comp which if they got ahead, it's absolutely suffocating and near-impossible for the other team to come back unless SK fucks up. On the flip side, if SK's comp got behind, they'd get wrecked.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
better question, why didn't shook camp top after the successfull gank against freddy? If they had killed aatrox 1-2 more times Irelia could have stomped him.
And what could it change? Irelia can't 1v5 since Season 2, especially against Lucian with 10 lives.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
eh. A mundo would've been worse than Irelia. Alliance already lacked the damage to kill anything. Downgrading (damage-wise) from Irelia to Mundo would've been worse.
I didn't see the whole game, but by the time I tuned in ~25 minutes in, the game was already over. SK was running a team comp which if they got ahead, it's absolutely suffocating and near-impossible for the other team to come back unless SK fucks up. On the flip side, if SK's comp got behind, they'd get wrecked.
It's not really that Alliance lacked the damage, SK:s team was built around rendering alliances damage useless. Alliance needed picks in order to get objectives, SK:s comp was built around preventing picks while poking Alliance down.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
better question, why didn't shook camp top after the successfull gank against freddy? If they had killed aatrox 1-2 more times Irelia could have stomped him.
And what could it change? Irelia can't 1v5 since Season 2, especially against Lucian with 10 lives.
Problem was ALL never got to the point where they can bait out Ulti, and disengage, and then fight again.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
better question, why didn't shook camp top after the successfull gank against freddy? If they had killed aatrox 1-2 more times Irelia could have stomped him.
And what could it change? Irelia can't 1v5 since Season 2, especially against Lucian with 10 lives.
It's not about having Irelia 1v5, it's more about snowballing the game. Aatrox is shit when behind. SK's entire comp falls apart the moment they fall behind by more than 10~15%. The heal/revive composition only works if your champions can actually get the HP to survive the initial burst+the AP to heal it back up - that requires your team to not be behind.
If Aatrox was squishier, he'd just get popped instantly, then revives with 20% hp and gets insta-popped again. Instead. SK got ahead, Aatrox got tanky, so he can yolo in, die after taking a ton of focus, then res at virtually full hp due to Nid/Kayle heals.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
eh. A mundo would've been worse than Irelia. Alliance already lacked the damage to kill anything. Downgrading (damage-wise) from Irelia to Mundo would've been worse.
I didn't see the whole game, but by the time I tuned in ~25 minutes in, the game was already over. SK was running a team comp which if they got ahead, it's absolutely suffocating and near-impossible for the other team to come back unless SK fucks up. On the flip side, if SK's comp got behind, they'd get wrecked.
It's not really that Alliance lacked the damage, SK:s team was built around rendering alliances damage useless. Alliance needed picks in order to get objectives, SK:s comp was built around preventing picks while poking Alliance down.
Which was possible only because of SK's ability to secure a strong early lead with objective control. We've seen similar comps in the past. They work because you get a lead or at least stay very even. If you fall behind you're fucked harder than if you pick a more standard composition.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
better question, why didn't shook camp top after the successfull gank against freddy? If they had killed aatrox 1-2 more times Irelia could have stomped him.
And what could it change? Irelia can't 1v5 since Season 2, especially against Lucian with 10 lives.
It would've helped the split push strat of having Irelia with TP. In the midgame Alliance was responding to SK pushes and dragons by splitting Tabzz and Wickd to take towers or pressure them to stop pushes. If Irelia has a few more kills she would've merited an even larger response from SK.
EDIT: What Ryuu said too - they also can't send an Aatrox who's behind to deal with a fed Irelia.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
better question, why didn't shook camp top after the successfull gank against freddy? If they had killed aatrox 1-2 more times Irelia could have stomped him.
And what could it change? Irelia can't 1v5 since Season 2, especially against Lucian with 10 lives.
Problem was ALL never got to the point where they can bait out Ulti, and disengage, and then fight again.
This whole game was about one engage. If Froggen hadn't whiffed his ult, [A] would have rolled 5v0 like i predicted, get inhibitor and this game could be same to yesterday's against Fnatic. But Froggen whiffed, SK rolled 5v0 and game was over after it.
Nothing bad, i'm satisfied with growing Alliance. They will be real contenders in Summer and probably even in Spring Playoffs.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
better question, why didn't shook camp top after the successfull gank against freddy? If they had killed aatrox 1-2 more times Irelia could have stomped him.
And what could it change? Irelia can't 1v5 since Season 2, especially against Lucian with 10 lives.
Problem was ALL never got to the point where they can bait out Ulti, and disengage, and then fight again.
This whole game was about one engage. If Froggen hadn't whiffed his ult, [A] would have rolled 5v0 like i predicted, get inhibitor and this game could be same to yesterday's against Fnatic. But Froggen whiffed, SK rolled 5v0 and game was over after it.
Nothing bad, i'm satisfied with growing Alliance. They will be real contenders in Summer and probably even in Spring Playoffs.
Alliance is definitely looking much stronger than they did at the beginning. They're still terrible at playing from behind though.
You have to remember that irelia was winning the 1v1 vs aatrox for a long time but when alliance fell too behind freddy got the edge, if alliance had maintained a solid position there would have been little to stop wickd during the match.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
better question, why didn't shook camp top after the successfull gank against freddy? If they had killed aatrox 1-2 more times Irelia could have stomped him.
And what could it change? Irelia can't 1v5 since Season 2, especially against Lucian with 10 lives.
Why would he need to 1v5? At that point the game was even, but one of the tools in their arsenal was basically useless. How threatening can a splitpush really be if you cannot 1v1 your lane opponent?
Their biggest problem is that for some reason I cannot really understand they have 0 direction in the midgame. They were posturing around the first dragon successfully and got a mid turret, but then without any rhyme or reason tabbs moved botlane to farm 6 minions and SK got a dragon they rightfully never should have gotten (at that point before aatrox was tanky and before Nid had any items the A combo should have been far stronger).
I really cannot understand that call specifically. You have a teamfight oriented wombo combo, why would you back out of the only possible teamfight.
After they bungled the 2nd Dragon (that was the teamfight where they had 0 focus, and instead spent their time trying to kill an Aatrox with bloodwell and kayle intervention to keep him alive) the game was basically over, but they seemed to have 0 plan on what they actually want to do even before that point.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
better question, why didn't shook camp top after the successfull gank against freddy? If they had killed aatrox 1-2 more times Irelia could have stomped him.
And what could it change? Irelia can't 1v5 since Season 2, especially against Lucian with 10 lives.
It would've helped the split push strat of having Irelia with TP. In the midgame Alliance was responding to SK pushes and dragons by splitting Tabzz and Wickd to take towers or pressure them to stop pushes. If Irelia has a few more kills she would've merited an even larger response from SK.
EDIT: What Ryuu said too - they also can't send an Aatrox who's behind to deal with a fed Irelia.
They didn't have to respond to Irelia. She can't push as fast as toplaners like Shyvana and while she is pushing, SK can force everything on the other side of the map forcing Wickd to use teleport.
When you have comps like in this game, Alliance had to dive with Shook+Nyph and get Nrated instantly. It wasn't possible because of Nidalee, who is probably best disengager in whole game and Aatrox who acted like a brick wall between Shook and Nyph and actual dps of [A].
So even if Alliance tried to run 1-3-1, Sivir could be chased by Evelynn forever, Aatrox could just hold his ground even if behind because Irelia can't dive him alone and smash when he has randuins and Lucian-Kayle-Nidlaee > Orianna-Wukong-Lulu in holding.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
better question, why didn't shook camp top after the successfull gank against freddy? If they had killed aatrox 1-2 more times Irelia could have stomped him.
And what could it change? Irelia can't 1v5 since Season 2, especially against Lucian with 10 lives.
Problem was ALL never got to the point where they can bait out Ulti, and disengage, and then fight again.
This whole game was about one engage. If Froggen hadn't whiffed his ult, [A] would have rolled 5v0 like i predicted, get inhibitor and this game could be same to yesterday's against Fnatic. But Froggen whiffed, SK rolled 5v0 and game was over after it.
Nothing bad, i'm satisfied with growing Alliance. They will be real contenders in Summer and probably even in Spring Playoffs.
Alliance is definitely looking much stronger than they did at the beginning. They're still terrible at playing from behind though.
Not terrible, they just seem clueless sometimes. I dunno who's making calls for Alliance but he needs to get 100g of vodka before game just for courage.
On March 01 2014 06:25 TitusVI wrote: i think alliance misses a tank... why is wickd not playing a tank like mundo or stuff??
better question, why didn't shook camp top after the successfull gank against freddy? If they had killed aatrox 1-2 more times Irelia could have stomped him.
And what could it change? Irelia can't 1v5 since Season 2, especially against Lucian with 10 lives.
Problem was ALL never got to the point where they can bait out Ulti, and disengage, and then fight again.
This whole game was about one engage. If Froggen hadn't whiffed his ult, [A] would have rolled 5v0 like i predicted, get inhibitor and this game could be same to yesterday's against Fnatic. But Froggen whiffed, SK rolled 5v0 and game was over after it.
Nothing bad, i'm satisfied with growing Alliance. They will be real contenders in Summer and probably even in Spring Playoffs.
Alliance is definitely looking much stronger than they did at the beginning. They're still terrible at playing from behind though.
Not terrible, they just seem cluless sometimes. I dunno who's making calls for Alliance but he needs to get 100g of vodka before game just for courage.
This game shot calling was good. Was more about team comp and botlane playing bad vs Eve.
Nyph and tabzz way 2 heavy. Also terrible rotations and communication problems and bad teamfighting. Irelia tried to carry but used bad teleports. Froggen played too scared in teamfights.
On the other side, candy did really good splitpushing in the right moments, kayle support OP, jesiz shy nida but the char is broken, freddy lost lane at last but came back due to his team pressuring, 2 damage items eve ->full tank OP, happy to see them use tank eve that i introduced long ago.
On March 01 2014 06:46 sataNik[pG] wrote: Nyph and tabzz way 2 heavy. Also terrible rotations and communication problems and bad teamfighting. Irelia tried to carry but used bad teleports. Froggen played too scared in teamfights.
On the other side, candy did really good splitpushing in the right moments, kayle support OP, jesiz shy nida but the char is broken, freddy lost lane at last but came back due to his team pressuring, 2 damage items eve ->full tank OP, happy to see them use tank eve that i introduced long ago.
In comparison to what was happening in the beginning of the season, those rotations were 11/10. Endless props to Nrated for pulling tricks from sleeve, still, neo-SK can fall back next week already. EU LCS is too heavy.
Overpow is going to farm whole game again? Ez for SHC. First game for Vander on Annie btw.
I really enjoyed the teamfights of Alliance vs SK though, they were kind of all-over the place, noone died immediatly upon initiation, and there was a lot of movement, using cooldowns (especially for shields and mobility) andd people zoning or trying to get around the frontline. They were pretty one-sided in the end but still enjoyable to watch.
On March 01 2014 06:52 onlywonderboy wrote: I really hope that Overpow doesn't play like shit this game.
I hope roccat aren't gonna go through the same process that fnatic did, where they suddenly turn into a bunch of wusses that lose their lanes and don't try to make plays. Which means not doing your S3 froggen impersonation overpow
On March 01 2014 06:52 onlywonderboy wrote: I really hope that Overpow doesn't play like shit this game.
I hope roccat aren't gonna go through the same process that fnatic did, where they suddenly turn into a bunch of wusses that lose their lanes and don't try to make plays. Which means not doing your S3 froggen impersonation overpow
Although on Vlad what are you really gonna do except farmfarmfarm?
On March 01 2014 06:52 onlywonderboy wrote: I really hope that Overpow doesn't play like shit this game.
I hope roccat aren't gonna go through the same process that fnatic did, where they suddenly turn into a bunch of wusses that lose their lanes and don't try to make plays. Which means not doing your S3 froggen impersonation overpow
Although on Vlad what are you really gonna do except farmfarmfarm?
On March 01 2014 06:52 onlywonderboy wrote: I really hope that Overpow doesn't play like shit this game.
I hope roccat aren't gonna go through the same process that fnatic did, where they suddenly turn into a bunch of wusses that lose their lanes and don't try to make plays. Which means not doing your S3 froggen impersonation overpow
Although on Vlad what are you really gonna do except farmfarmfarm?
Die on fb for example. It's mainstream for Vladimirs tonight.
SO. SK Gaming is ONE game from first place. What the actual fuck is happening in LCS :D And Millenium who are last are in 5 games. EU LCS, i missed you.
Well atleast we know the crap Roccat showed up again.... Wtf is happening to these EU teams that they forget what they were doing during the first half of the split.....
On March 01 2014 07:14 snow2.0 wrote: all i can think of whenever these guys play, is the theme here http://superhotgame.com/ SUPER HOT SUPER HOT SUPER HOT >_<
ME TOO. I posted that last time and no one responded. I'm glad I'm not alone.
On March 01 2014 07:17 AsnSensation wrote: btw didn't SHC become Team Acer or are they not their title sponsor?
SHC retain their own brand but are sponsored by acer.
so they keep the name? that's kinda awesome not sure what Acer got in this then though.
They are officially called SHC by Team Acer. Acer also seems to have a consulting function. Sounds like a good deal for SHC. I think this can be likened to the shirt sponsor / main sponsor in European football.
On March 01 2014 07:26 AsnSensation wrote: in other news Regi is going to sub for bjergsen this week who has to get his Visa in Europe. They're vs c9 of all teams :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTrJ4oSNans
On March 01 2014 07:26 AsnSensation wrote: in other news Regi is going to sub for bjergsen this week who has to get his Visa in Europe. They're vs c9 of all teams :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTrJ4oSNans
On March 01 2014 07:26 AsnSensation wrote: in other news Regi is going to sub for bjergsen this week who has to get his Visa in Europe. They're vs c9 of all teams :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTrJ4oSNans
On March 01 2014 07:29 Fusilero wrote: Roccat 0-2, XDG are against CLG and C9. This is the worst week of league ever
AT LEAST MANCLOUD ONLY HAS TO FACE REGI
IT'S CLG AND C9, WE DON'T EVEN GET REGI. AT LEAST XMITHIE BACK IN JUNGLE SO I CAN HOLD ONTO DELUSIONS.
The fact that it took XDG management 7 weeks to realize "Hmm. . . we seriously did awesome when Xmithie was in the jungle. PUT THAT MAN BACK IN THE JUNGLE!"
On March 01 2014 07:31 AsnSensation wrote: Don't know if he's bullshitting lol but in the video regi says that he hasn't played in 5 months and just started again on Monday.
At that point you might as well just put MegaZero mid, jeez.
Edit: Regi confirmed liar. Or that video was made a while ago.
On March 01 2014 07:31 AsnSensation wrote: Don't know if he's bullshitting lol but in the video regi says that he hasn't played in 5 months and just started again on Monday.
He's bullshitting. I've seen Reginald playing mid in games on streams I've watched over the last few weeks.
On March 01 2014 07:31 AsnSensation wrote: Don't know if he's bullshitting lol but in the video regi says that he hasn't played in 5 months and just started again on Monday.
At that point you might as well just put MegaZero mid, jeez.
On the bright side there's still lots of room to lose, I mean as long as it's top 6 it'll be okay and there's only three weeks left so at the very least can stay in for summer Alliance is 6-10 at 7th, still 10-6 so lots of wiggle room Back to back MVP for amazing ~yay~
1st and 2nd place are 2 games away from 6th. Now I'm not only scared about SK train but about Gambit and Roccat as well. Good thing Spring doesn't matter :^)
Creaton / Jree is also godlike don't let one week deceive you.
On March 01 2014 07:37 AlterKot wrote: 1st and 2nd place are 2 games away from 6th. Now I'm not only scared about SK train but about Gambit and Roccat as well. Good thing Spring doesn't matter :^)
Creaton / Jree is also godlike don't let one week deceive you.
Yeah but competetion is tough and they got dumpstered pretty hard lately.
On March 01 2014 07:37 Redox wrote: Migxa / Rallez best bot lane EU? Or Candy / nRated, Forg1ven / Unlimited? Rekkles / Yellowstar not so bad either theoretically. I dont know anymore.
Forgi1ven is a beast he deserves a better support imo. Unlimited fed too many fb during the first weeks and yesterday he threw 3 tibbers into spellshield. Candy+Nrated (ze germans yay) imo currently best botlane. Rest is pretty even across the board. Personally I feel like Tabbz/Nyph is extremely underwhelming and perhaps the worst duolane.
On March 01 2014 07:37 Redox wrote: Migxa / Rallez best bot lane EU? Or Candy / nRated, Forg1ven / Unlimited? Rekkles / Yellowstar not so bad either theoretically. I dont know anymore.
Forgi1ven is a beast he deserves a better support imo. Unlimited fed too many fb during the first weeks and yesterday he threw 3 tibbers into spellshield. Candy+Nrated (ze germans yay) imo currently best botlane. Rest is pretty even across the board. Personally I feel like Tabbz/Nyph is extremely underwhelming and perhaps the worst duolane.
Tabzz never played to win lane to be honest even in LD. So they're just holding their ground with Nyph. But basically every of 8 duos can show some real madskillz.
On March 01 2014 07:37 Redox wrote: Migxa / Rallez best bot lane EU? Or Candy / nRated, Forg1ven / Unlimited? Rekkles / Yellowstar not so bad either theoretically. I dont know anymore.
Forgi1ven is a beast he deserves a better support imo. Unlimited fed too many fb during the first weeks and yesterday he threw 3 tibbers into spellshield. Candy+Nrated (ze germans yay) imo currently best botlane. Rest is pretty even across the board. Personally I feel like Tabbz/Nyph is extremely underwhelming and perhaps the worst duolane.
Tabbz/Nyph do well in 2vs2 but they have no idea when to ward/push and die a lot to ganks.
On March 01 2014 07:43 snow2.0 wrote: Why is phreak introducing todays challenger series... of the eu?
what do you mean the NA casters (especially phreak) have been casting both eu and na challenger for 2 months now.
lol really? im so used to seeing the guy on the right commentating NA games and phreak coming in to distract people during downtimes between NA matches and stuff.
On March 01 2014 07:43 snow2.0 wrote: Why is phreak introducing todays challenger series... of the eu?
what do you mean the NA casters (especially phreak) have been casting both eu and na challenger for 2 months now.
lol really? im so used to seeing the guy on the right commentating NA games and phreak coming in to distract people during downtimes between NA matches and stuff.
Phreak was commentating first week and last as well. Riv was just ruling the desk for 4 weeks and putting Phreak with Riv is suicidal.
On March 01 2014 08:03 onlywonderboy wrote: Stream still around 130K for the Challenger stuff. Not bad considering how much the LR threads die at this time. Riot production too strong.
It's a real shame how quiet the LR becomes, challenger matches are so funny. That sivir/leblanc/renekton chase was some god tier shit.
On March 01 2014 08:07 onlywonderboy wrote: Worth it for the pun
Edit: Oh god, he was on Giants? I've started forgetting about players on teams that got relegated.
Ye his Nautilus was top-tier. They were nice team overall, i cheered for them a bit.
Giants could, should have, would have been a great team. If it wasn't for: 1. Samux might have actually been the worst top in spring split or at least very close to yamatocannon 2. They make copenhagen wolves' decision making look like SKT, seriously they shit on all their lanes, fucking run a pain train then suddenly stop and run around the map waiting for the other team to comeback. I hope ozone has some jwaow/morden/yuuki/dioud brand products in the pipeline because they're not gonna be making any money from league.
On March 01 2014 07:30 snow2.0 wrote: WTF does regi mean "our record WILL take a hit". Is he subbing to win this or to go feed 0/15 wtf.
He's admitting that he's not going to perform as well as Bjergsen and that it's going to impact the team as a whole, are you disparaging him for being honest?
On March 01 2014 08:07 onlywonderboy wrote: Worth it for the pun
Edit: Oh god, he was on Giants? I've started forgetting about players on teams that got relegated.
Ye his Nautilus was top-tier. They were nice team overall, i cheered for them a bit.
Giants could, should have, would have been a great team. If it wasn't for: 1. Samux might have actually been the worst top in spring split or at least very close to yamatocannon 2. They make copenhagen wolves' decision making look like SKT, seriously they shit on all their lanes, fucking run a pain train then suddenly stop and run around the map waiting for the other team to comeback. I hope ozone has some jwaow/morden/yuuki/dioud brand products in the pipeline because they're not gonna be making any money from league.
Officially, i guess, we can say that Spontexx was worst :D Being kicked from 5-23 team with "can't communicate" sentence is quite sad. Lol i don't remember everything what was happening on toplane last spring. Wasn't fredy like worst toplaner? Every game which aAa did win was carried by Nono or Shlaya's Karthus iirc.
But ye, Giants should have 3-1 aTn ezpz in Promos if they hadn't stopped paintraining with Exter's Kha'Zix starting to feeding like crazy after being 9-3 or something like that.
and hype around Ocelote's team already dying down with this game :D losing to a brandnew challenger team whose only remotely famous player is ImSoFresh, an infamous -too bad for lcs- player
so funny how someone in his ama asked him how they gonna handle travel from their Madrid gaminghouse when they qualify for Summersplit :D As if this roster even has a small chance to even make it into the promotion tournament. C9 & NiP are probably miles ahead of G2 and I don't even wanna talk about a bo5 vs current lcs teams yet :D
On March 01 2014 08:07 onlywonderboy wrote: Worth it for the pun
Edit: Oh god, he was on Giants? I've started forgetting about players on teams that got relegated.
Ye his Nautilus was top-tier. They were nice team overall, i cheered for them a bit.
Giants could, should have, would have been a great team. If it wasn't for: 1. Samux might have actually been the worst top in spring split or at least very close to yamatocannon 2. They make copenhagen wolves' decision making look like SKT, seriously they shit on all their lanes, fucking run a pain train then suddenly stop and run around the map waiting for the other team to comeback. I hope ozone has some jwaow/morden/yuuki/dioud brand products in the pipeline because they're not gonna be making any money from league.
Officially, i guess, we can say that Spontexx was worst :D Being kicked from 5-23 team with "can't communicate" sentence is quite sad. Lol i don't remember everything what was happening on toplane last spring. Wasn't fredy like worst toplaner?
Freddy back then was the definition of "okay". That was aAa in a nutshell, 6th place was an accurate representation of an "okay" team, nono was okay, shlaya was okay, virtu4l was okay. Like they all just played meta champs, executed them okay and sometimes won. Truly we lost something when aAa got eliminated from LCS, we lost being okay. Never in league history has there been 5 people as okay as spring split aAa. 6/10 would reserve some praise for. Spontexx was actually good as well, he pretty much carried dragonborns, I remember brokenshard angrily ranting about how hosan/shushei pretty much own the team (Which would probably explain why extinct was on the bench the entire split)
On March 01 2014 08:07 onlywonderboy wrote: Worth it for the pun
Edit: Oh god, he was on Giants? I've started forgetting about players on teams that got relegated.
Ye his Nautilus was top-tier. They were nice team overall, i cheered for them a bit.
Giants could, should have, would have been a great team. If it wasn't for: 1. Samux might have actually been the worst top in spring split or at least very close to yamatocannon 2. They make copenhagen wolves' decision making look like SKT, seriously they shit on all their lanes, fucking run a pain train then suddenly stop and run around the map waiting for the other team to comeback. I hope ozone has some jwaow/morden/yuuki/dioud brand products in the pipeline because they're not gonna be making any money from league.
Officially, i guess, we can say that Spontexx was worst :D Being kicked from 5-23 team with "can't communicate" sentence is quite sad. Lol i don't remember everything what was happening on toplane last spring. Wasn't fredy like worst toplaner?
Freddy back then was the definition of "okay". That was aAa in a nutshell, 6th place was an accurate representation of an "okay" team, nono was okay, shlaya was okay, virtu4l was okay. Like they all just played meta champs, executed them okay and sometimes won. Truly we lost something when aAa got eliminated from LCS, we lost being okay. Never in league history has there been 5 people as okay as spring split aAa. 6/10 would reserve some praise for. Spontexx was actually good as well, he pretty much carried dragonborns, I remember brokenshard angrily ranting about how hosan/shushei pretty much own the team (Which would probably explain why extinct was on the bench the entire split)
Ye, aAa were really middle of the pack. Pulling some upsets, winning against teams who're weaker. Truly middle. I was going to cheer for them against SK but suddenly ): Shit happens. Since when EU is just slaughterhouse with no leaders and no outsiders.
Lol oce, losing to NiP isn't bad. Losing to MYI is just sad.
On March 01 2014 08:28 orzeu wrote: So G2 have no more chance for LCS?
Basically every team except NiP, C9EU and former MYM has to reach at least top-4 this CS to have chances. But it seems there is big pit between those 3 squads and other. At least now.
On March 01 2014 08:28 orzeu wrote: So G2 have no more chance for LCS?
Basically every team except NiP, C9EU and former MYM has to reach at least top-4 this CS to have chances. But it seems there is big pit between those 3 squads and other. At least now.
SK Prime > MYM imo but SK prime got a bad draw with NiP first round Holy fucking shit Myi might actually throw this match
On March 01 2014 08:28 orzeu wrote: So G2 have no more chance for LCS?
Basically every team except NiP, C9EU and former MYM has to reach at least top-4 this CS to have chances. But it seems there is big pit between those 3 squads and other. At least now.
SK Prime > MYM imo but SK prime got a bad draw with NiP first round
Kobe said that G2/MYI will play against NiP, no? WTF MYI PLS While everything was lagging, you somehow did threw?
On March 01 2014 08:43 oneofthem wrote: how did fnatic win lol
fuck Fnatic, how did mYi lose?
NA level of baron throws I heard. But man I thought mYi had to game but only to see that G2 came back.
At least NA throws at baron as a team. 80% of my soloq teams have better teamplay than MYI in this game. Really frustrating to watch them do so bad decisions all game long when being so far ahead.
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