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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-17 19:50:39
February 17 2014 19:48 GMT
#1
Looks like NACL is back for another season. First matches start tonight.

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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
February 17 2014 20:11 GMT
#2
LMQ ! Sucks it's NA time, first game at 2am, damn :\
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 17 2014 20:34 GMT
#3
LMQ collecting these ez paychecks.
liftlift > tsm
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
February 18 2014 01:01 GMT
#4
There's no stream for this, what kind of event is this supposed to be.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 18 2014 01:32 GMT
#5
On February 18 2014 10:01 snow2.0 wrote:
There's no stream for this, what kind of event is this supposed to be.


Why?
http://www.twitch.tv/naclesports

Biggest concern about this tournament for me is amount of standings for teams.
And i will bet for C9 probably, really want them to succeed.
LMQ aren't unbeatable, they can definitely give them run for the money.

And i can't kill an idea that i just fucking want C9T and C9E come to LCS just to see, how will they manage situation with team owners.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 03:50:15
February 18 2014 03:44 GMT
#6
and lmq is down big in early game again.


mechanics too strong even in a 4v5
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 04:15:14
February 18 2014 04:00 GMT
#7
LMQ is so sloppy this game.

EDIT: nvm. Throw academy.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
February 18 2014 05:23 GMT
#8
Every pro that comes to the US does extremely well for awhile and inevitably start a trend towards suck. I don't know if it's the food or what =\. (More likely I just suspect it's the sense of complacency a steadier paycheck gives)
lega
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada290 Posts
February 18 2014 05:37 GMT
#9
Afaik, NACL has nothing to do with LCS qualification. I don't think LMQ is super serious about their game.
tl2212
Profile Joined April 2013
Belize731 Posts
February 18 2014 06:10 GMT
#10
why is this team called team 8??
economy over everything
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
February 18 2014 14:38 GMT
#11
GO DUOCEK REPRESENTIN CURSE
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 02:28:25
February 19 2014 02:26 GMT
#12
is lmq playing tonight ? where can i find a list of games ?

they haven't updated this page in a while http://naclesports.com/ ...

Edit: nvm, leaguepedia above has the schedule.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 19 2014 03:18 GMT
#13
http://esportcalendar.com/

can always check out this site for matches.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
February 19 2014 04:15 GMT
#14
Well this current Super Team NA vs Team 8 game is certainly close ...
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 04:47:51
February 19 2014 04:47 GMT
#15
Azingy karthus will take down lmq

lol why did azingy's team only have 1 ban?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
February 19 2014 06:01 GMT
#16
the casters honestly ruin this for me..
TSM
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 08:22:00
February 19 2014 08:19 GMT
#17
On February 18 2014 14:23 KissBlade wrote:
Every pro that comes to the US does extremely well for awhile and inevitably start a trend towards suck. I don't know if it's the food or what =\. (More likely I just suspect it's the sense of complacency a steadier paycheck gives)

If you're talking about LMQ, it's not like they were arguably better when they got here... They were hyped for being a chinese team when in reality they were a mediocre B team with no notable players except godlike who wasn't even that amazing. They are a realllyyy overhyped team when the only teams they've been known to stomp are bottom tier challenger teams. They probably deserve more hype than quantic at least, but quantic didn't deserve as much as they got to begin with.
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
February 19 2014 09:00 GMT
#18
Last month, LMQ was stomping every single lane and in the jungle against every single other NA challenger team and the games were all decided if not conceded by 20 minutes.

In the last week alone, LMQ has had to come back from early and mid-game deficits at least 2-3 times.

Let's hope that trend doesn't continue when they have more serious games at stake.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 20 2014 01:06 GMT
#19
On February 19 2014 18:00 1ntrigue wrote:
Last month, LMQ was stomping every single lane and in the jungle against every single other NA challenger team and the games were all decided if not conceded by 20 minutes.

In the last week alone, LMQ has had to come back from early and mid-game deficits at least 2-3 times.

Let's hope that trend doesn't continue when they have more serious games at stake.


Which is why LMQ is good for the overall skill level of the NA scene, IMO.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
February 20 2014 03:58 GMT
#20
C9 Tempest really taking it to LMQ tonight.

I must catch them on their bad games, because I never see them and think they are anything more than a great Challenger team. I'm still forming an opinion on them though
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 20 2014 03:58 GMT
#21
lmq is really bad early game. pls replace jungler
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
February 20 2014 04:02 GMT
#22
It's hard being right all the time.

LMQ have lots of reoccurring issues, not just bad games once in a while.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 04:14:15
February 20 2014 04:04 GMT
#23
their botlane is good. godlike is passable in the LCS. but their vision control is so bad lol so they keep getting caught out. jungler is literally not even diamond 1

>pick leesin feed early
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
February 20 2014 04:11 GMT
#24
I first read it as C9 LemonNation and thought: wait wat, he's a top laner now?

tricksy
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 20 2014 04:21 GMT
#25
PSA: C9T LomoNation = Yazuki
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 20 2014 08:56 GMT
#26
On February 20 2014 13:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
PSA: C9T LomoNation = Yazuki

lomo
God Bless
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 12:00:12
February 20 2014 11:55 GMT
#27
On February 20 2014 10:06 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 18:00 1ntrigue wrote:
Last month, LMQ was stomping every single lane and in the jungle against every single other NA challenger team and the games were all decided if not conceded by 20 minutes.

In the last week alone, LMQ has had to come back from early and mid-game deficits at least 2-3 times.

Let's hope that trend doesn't continue when they have more serious games at stake.


Which is why LMQ is good for the overall skill level of the NA scene, IMO.

It is only to some extent. With their decline in skill level (you could argue improvement in NA Challenger scene, but I disagree), they will no longer add anything to the NA scene very soon unless they pick themselves up and start training as if they were still in China.

On February 20 2014 13:02 Itsmedudeman wrote:
It's hard being right all the time.

LMQ have lots of reoccurring issues, not just bad games once in a while.

Except you're wrong. LMQ has completely dipped in form. It's not only their team calls which are losing them games - they are losing their lanes, something which was unthinkable when they first came to NA. Even XiaoWeiXiao, a relatively weak player, was stomping or completely out-farming and out-ganking his lane opponents. They have definitely mechanically regressed as well as their team synergy falling completely out the window.

It doesn't matter that LMQ was a mediocre LPL team if that is enough to make it a high-level LCS team at the least. They are playing much worse now than they were before.
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
February 20 2014 14:23 GMT
#28
I have to agree with the above. It seems nowadays they are losing individual lanes more often, and no longer have the early game advantage that they used in the first month they were here. Their individual plays look a bit off (perhaps due to NA soloQ mentality) and their teamfighting, while still good, is not as crisp as it was before. Hopefully they can pick it up soon...
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 14:40:46
February 20 2014 14:40 GMT
#29
On February 20 2014 20:55 1ntrigue wrote:
Except you're wrong. LMQ has completely dipped in form. It's not only their team calls which are losing them games - they are losing their lanes, something which was unthinkable when they first came to NA. Even XiaoWeiXiao, a relatively weak player, was stomping or completely out-farming and out-ganking his lane opponents. They have definitely mechanically regressed as well as their team synergy falling completely out the window.

It doesn't matter that LMQ was a mediocre LPL team if that is enough to make it a high-level LCS team at the least. They are playing much worse now than they were before.

Curse of NA. Like the Russian winter, foreign invaders be warned!
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 19:05:49
March 11 2014 19:05 GMT
#30
what games today are good? the lmq one?
Science>Mechanics
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 12 2014 02:00 GMT
#31
Complexity throwing arm super strong. 3k gold lead twice, give it back twice.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 05:03:47
March 12 2014 05:02 GMT
#32
Mor is playing like a god right now. Holy f @_@.

Noname basically afk this game lol.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 12 2014 05:22 GMT
#33
On March 12 2014 14:02 KissBlade wrote:
Mor is playing like a god right now. Holy f @_@.

Noname basically afk this game lol.


Better AFK than actively feeding.
TranslatorBaa!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 12 2014 06:29 GMT
#34
Chinese jungler woes continue.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 12 2014 07:06 GMT
#35
On March 12 2014 15:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Chinese jungler woes continue.

#FreeJingFromTheResponsibilitiesOfMarriage
Glorious SEA doto
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
March 13 2014 02:08 GMT
#36
Can someone post within spoilers stats/etc on LMQ vs Curse Academy?
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 17 2014 09:46 GMT
#37
lmq trolling nacl 100% with role swaps, mor feeding top, noname feeding mid, ackerman feeding jungle, xiaoweixiao derping sup. vasilii still adc
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
March 19 2014 12:34 GMT
#38
On March 17 2014 18:46 nobodywonder wrote:
lmq trolling nacl 100% with role swaps, mor feeding top, noname feeding mid, ackerman feeding jungle, xiaoweixiao derping sup. vasilii still adc


LMQ weren't trolling. Ryze is a hard counter to Renekton and Yasuo does really well vs. Nidalee, so LMQ lane-swapped because Bruiser Nidalee does really well vs. Ryze and Renekton does well vs. Yasuo.

LMQ even practiced this same strategy over the weekend in KaosTV's NA Challener Series #2 and got called trolls, then they bring it out vs. Email Support and executed it very well in the laning phase.
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
March 20 2014 01:15 GMT
#39
the amount of disconnects and general pauses is making this league kind of ridiculous to spectate...games never start on time, and it kills the overall mood for the league. i feel like there should be a maximum # of pauses per team regardless of what the underlying issue is, and if that number is exceeded, automatically forfeit and move onto next game...this is just not fun for anyone
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
March 27 2014 00:47 GMT
#40
Team 8 really giving LMQ a good fight.

Fun games
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
March 27 2014 00:51 GMT
#41
...yeah everyone needs to watch g1 of T8 vs. LMQ.
Awesome, awesome game.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 00:52:20
March 27 2014 00:52 GMT
#42
I am facepalming at this game so hard.

LMQ so sloppy.

OBVIOUSLY HE IS GOING TO ZHONYA. DOH
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 27 2014 00:53 GMT
#43
This a pretty awesome tournament, especially for an NA non LCS tourney.

Casting is mediocre at best but ah well.
Retvrn to Forvms
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
March 27 2014 00:54 GMT
#44
On March 27 2014 09:52 Sufficiency wrote:
I am facepalming at this game so hard.

LMQ so sloppy.

OBVIOUSLY HE IS GOING TO ZHONYA. DOH


Yeah LMQ's jungler is...not good to say the least.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
tl2212
Profile Joined April 2013
Belize731 Posts
March 27 2014 00:54 GMT
#45
Wow that ending. team 8 didnt give a fuck lol they just were like "we got this" and even tho 3 of them died from ziggs and caitlyn had like 10hp they won. kinda baller.

economy over everything
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 27 2014 00:59 GMT
#46
On March 27 2014 09:54 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 09:52 Sufficiency wrote:
I am facepalming at this game so hard.

LMQ so sloppy.

OBVIOUSLY HE IS GOING TO ZHONYA. DOH


Yeah LMQ's jungler is...not good to say the least.


It's absolutely mind numbing that he doesn't check what items calitroll has. Or maybe he knew but he forgot at the heat of the moment. Either way, it's a bronze level play right there.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 27 2014 01:21 GMT
#47
That Lulu drive-by kill. "Don't mind me, just zipping around under your tower... and igniting you".
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
March 27 2014 01:27 GMT
#48
Some LCS team please pick up Maplestreet. Paging EG/XDG/Coast
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 27 2014 01:38 GMT
#49
Is Shyvana in that bad a state against Ryze? He's been dead weight for most of the game and right now his ult just saved Ryze by pushing him out of range from the rest of the team.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 27 2014 01:40 GMT
#50
On March 27 2014 09:54 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 09:52 Sufficiency wrote:
I am facepalming at this game so hard.

LMQ so sloppy.

OBVIOUSLY HE IS GOING TO ZHONYA. DOH


Yeah LMQ's jungler is...not good to say the least.

dat Chinese jungler talent yo
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
tl2212
Profile Joined April 2013
Belize731 Posts
March 27 2014 01:47 GMT
#51
what happens to the team that gets first place? do they both get into the LCS or do they have to play through a bracket for that first
economy over everything
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
March 27 2014 01:54 GMT
#52
On March 27 2014 10:47 tl2212 wrote:
what happens to the team that gets first place? do they both get into the LCS or do they have to play through a bracket for that first


This is a separate, non-LCS related tournament comprised of the best Amateur teams. Top prize is 8k and second place is 5k
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
March 27 2014 01:59 GMT
#53
That minute 50 bottomlane splitpush... uhhhh
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 27 2014 02:01 GMT
#54
Team8 really hurting themselves by keeping burning everything on somebody who already has the lantern under them. Vi's been mostly useless out of some rare picks this game because they've used Tibbers (missing at least 3 of them by a wide margin) and Assault and Battery to try and kill someone who just... takes the lantern andd gtfo calmly.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
tl2212
Profile Joined April 2013
Belize731 Posts
March 27 2014 02:02 GMT
#55
sellling boots as caitlyn was not a good idea there...
economy over everything
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 27 2014 02:28 GMT
#56
lol noname

FEEDER
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
March 27 2014 02:37 GMT
#57
NONAME THE GOD LOLLLLLLLLLLL
TSM
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
March 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#58
BEST FLASH EVERRRR
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 27 2014 02:51 GMT
#59
Slooshi going full Shiphtur
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
March 27 2014 03:00 GMT
#60
The nid spears...that skill is so toxic ><
Jaedong :D
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 27 2014 03:22 GMT
#61
This level 1 hahahahahaa
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 27 2014 03:43 GMT
#62
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 27 2014 03:44 GMT
#63
On March 27 2014 12:43 krndandaman wrote:
every single game I watch of LMQ they fall really behind early with something stupid and then manage to win it. are they purposefully giving a handicap to their opponents or something? its uncanny really.

I don't think they care because even feeding FB in each lane they're still up like 20cs each at 7 mins.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 03:50:19
March 27 2014 03:47 GMT
#64
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