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On January 19 2014 07:54 wei2coolman wrote:
someone needs to teach xpecial how to wear headphones.
maybe he doesn't want to mess up his hair
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On January 19 2014 07:53 Yezzus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 07:52 skykh wrote:
C9 will dominate na lcs again, looking at the results. We all know this
TSM seemed really lost in their picks against C9 and during the game. I really think that they have a good chance of coming back and being number 1. But only time will tell.
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On January 19 2014 07:51 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 07:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:45 Chicane wrote:On January 19 2014 07:44 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:He's going to play in Challenger scene with his own team, no? Heard about it. I'm pretty sure it fell apart shortly after. There was some arguing and the players didn't work well together in that regard IIRC. He made a video about it so if you find his channel I'm sure you'll see it. Thanks, dude. Elementz is pretty much done imo. He was amazing with Curse in Spring and if they hadn't dumpstered him i would bet on them in playoffs. But he enjoyed being a coach i guess and i wish that we can get him as analyst for Riot with his game knowledge as well as Chauster. Yeah no problem. Maybe he will make another small comeback some time for the next season of coke zero since he seems to want to stay in the LoL scene. I actually saw him in some Diamond 1 game on a stream, so it seems like he is actually trying to climb the ladder and not being awful anymore. I remember before watching his stream as he struggled in Plat 2 (when he was on Curse). It was painful to watch. So my point is that maybe he actually is taking more steps to improve himself as a player now that he NEEDS to... though I can't ever see him being a top tier support on a good team again.
To be honest, i don't think it's highly required for support to be high on ladder.
Game knowledge and some mechanics is nuff.
Especially for some teams who have no experience.
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On January 19 2014 07:54 Slusher wrote:
NAs supports are overhyped because the general level of support in NA is just lower.
it's really hard to hone your skills on a ladder where half+ of your opponents are begrudgingly off roling.
@above idk Ali is really good on this patch imo
Ali is still good but his slow adapting suggests that he might have missed the annie/leona train. Idk it's purely speculation
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Can hawshawt beat the prodigal son?
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On January 19 2014 07:51 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 07:44 Volband wrote:On January 19 2014 07:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:31 Volband wrote:On January 19 2014 07:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:21 Volband wrote:On January 19 2014 07:18 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:16 Volband wrote:On January 19 2014 07:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:11 Volband wrote:
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Hey, this guy just said Kiwikid was fun to watch. I had as much fun watching him as getting my tooth pulled without any painkillers. And I will refuse to comment on his level of play at top lane, because it was non-existent. Worst kda while Rengar and Zac were fotm for top laners? Yeah, okay. Rengar? Fotm? For toplane? When? You are right, it was mainly Europe, divided with the jungle role. Still, he played him, and sadly, I witnessed that. Seriously, how can anyone call him a good top laner? I respect a lot of athletes even if I hate them with all my guts, but he is just plain and simply bad. I'm not even sure how could this be a topic for arguement. Europe? Rengar? Fotm? When? It was picked by hyrqbot in jungle once in Spring, also once by Darien just to go full ham and feed. Somehow my memory don't remember other stuff, even Mimer wasn't playing it. What, europe sucked on him in the summer split. Also, you said Kiwikid is fun to watch, which is even worse, than calling him good, or decent, or not terrible. Darien is fun to watch. Xpeke is fun to watch. WildTutle is fun to watch. Kiwikid failing with every fotm (like Singed or Zac) is not fun to watch, especially when he laughs all the time, like he has some other irl issues. http://lol.gamepedia.com/Riot_League_Championship_Series/Europe/Season_3/Picks_and_Bans/Summer_SeasonWhere is Rengar? 1 pick as i said. Kiwi was carrying Dignitas HUGE in Spring Split. Dignitas were falling, he was falling as well but i barely can remind games where he did lose 1v1 or feed without enemies's ganking him permanently. Can't say I remember much about Dig fom the spring split, but saying he was only falling because the team was falling is just ridiculous. He managed to die the most out of everyone in every LCS while playing champs like Singed, Zac, and occasionally - to put this right - Aatrox. How the hell could you even lose games with zac back then? Full hp 0-24, 0 mana, of course he did not went 0-10 in lane, he actually had to do stuff like teamfight, or landing abilities, and that's when his inability to play decent showed. In summer he never carried anyone, and he was always inferior compared to the enemy toplaners. (Who knows, maybe he was better than Kris and Vileroze, but that's not something to brag about) He's mediocore, and if you think he's fun to watch, then compare him to Sping split Voyboy. Edit: Kiwi walks back to stun 2 people instead of waiting them to get in range so he doesn't lose momentum. Yeah, that is him. Whatever, Dig deserves him, hope he stays there forever. Dude, 70% of lanes in Summer were played as 2v1. How can you blame toplaner for feeding if his team is losing? He can't carry on fucking Zac, he was op but op for single lane, not for carrying the game. And about Voyboy. Saintvicious was carrying Curse hard in Spring and they were 19-9. Dignitas were 13-15 and then suddenly Voyboy failed against Kiwikid in playoffs to throw his team out of LCS. Ok. I was talking about the fun to watch now, but if you really said Kiwikid is/was betetr than Voy, then I really can't reply to that. People can argue that I should not hate him THAT much, but no one defends him, because even the most hardcore Dig fans know he's shit. I wish you one thing, and one thing only. May Kiwikid be always part of one of your favourite teams. Always. Even when Korean teams are on his doorstep to convicne him "pls, play terible in our team!", he shall say "no, I'm missing skillshots and showing absolutely 0 game understanding HERE. Sorry." + Show Spoiler +Nah, I take it back. No one deserves that. No one. I don't really like Kiwi. I'm a Dig fan, and I don't think he should be on the team, but your irrational hatred of him down to the fact "he smiles" is just bizarre. He was a great singed/elise player last spring split, essentially carrying Dig (and his Singed TP plays were fun to watch. Those champs got nerfed, and he failed to adjust. Dig has made a mistake to keep him around, but it's not like he's the worst player in history or something. There have been lots of League players that fall apart when their champion pools get nerfed.
He was feeding with Singed when he was not nerfed. He was bad with Zac when he was op as hell. He tried new stuff (like that Aatrox) and failed miserably. Meanwhile there were toplaners like Zion who had Riven banned against him at a time when Riven wasn't fotm, and no one played him competitively in the west.
The only reason Kiwi could get away with being bad, is that Zac had such a great utility, Singed was a no-brainer "run at them screaming yolo" and Elise was broken. Also, his Elise was more than unimpressive in the summer split, despite Elise was at her peak.
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My heart is broken almost.
CLG CLG CLG
*yes, Snoopeh, Yellowpete and Krepo are still part of the family*
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DL with the bedhead in that vid lol
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On January 19 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 07:51 Chicane wrote:On January 19 2014 07:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:45 Chicane wrote:On January 19 2014 07:44 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:He's going to play in Challenger scene with his own team, no? Heard about it. I'm pretty sure it fell apart shortly after. There was some arguing and the players didn't work well together in that regard IIRC. He made a video about it so if you find his channel I'm sure you'll see it. Thanks, dude. Elementz is pretty much done imo. He was amazing with Curse in Spring and if they hadn't dumpstered him i would bet on them in playoffs. But he enjoyed being a coach i guess and i wish that we can get him as analyst for Riot with his game knowledge as well as Chauster. Yeah no problem. Maybe he will make another small comeback some time for the next season of coke zero since he seems to want to stay in the LoL scene. I actually saw him in some Diamond 1 game on a stream, so it seems like he is actually trying to climb the ladder and not being awful anymore. I remember before watching his stream as he struggled in Plat 2 (when he was on Curse). It was painful to watch. So my point is that maybe he actually is taking more steps to improve himself as a player now that he NEEDS to... though I can't ever see him being a top tier support on a good team again. To be honest, i don't think it's highly required for support to be high on ladder. Game knowledge and some mechanics is nuff. Especially for some teams who have no experience.
Is that you, Elementz?
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On January 19 2014 07:54 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 07:53 Swords wrote:On January 19 2014 07:51 Fusilero wrote:On January 19 2014 07:49 Volband wrote:On January 19 2014 07:47 Dan HH wrote:On January 19 2014 07:45 Mensol wrote:
Dignitas without Patoy = Barcelona without Messi So winning every game but playing slightly less flashy? Patoy is even more overrated than mancloud. Sure, better than Kiwi, but the amount of hype he got back then was unreal. People tend to forget how many Chausters did he pull off. Patoy entered a bizarre zone, where so many people called him underrated that he ended up being overrated. He's a great support but he's not some kinda world beater (Same for xpecial) Considering Patoy wasn't practicing all that much last spit, I don't think he'd be too useful come season 4. His champ pool is pretty much useless in the current meta - Fiddle and Sona get erased by Annie/Lucian/Thresh/Jinx/Sivir. I have a feeling that was a massive factor in dig deciding to remove him, sure he had a great ali/fiddle/sona but he drops off dramatically past them it's quite a constraint in bot lane. He'd have gotten freaking bodied in the current meta.
Yupp. Keeping Kiwi on was just such a bad idea though. I watch Qt's stream a bunch, and he has better synergy with random soloqueue players than Kiwikid.
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On January 19 2014 07:58 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:51 Chicane wrote:On January 19 2014 07:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:45 Chicane wrote:On January 19 2014 07:44 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:He's going to play in Challenger scene with his own team, no? Heard about it. I'm pretty sure it fell apart shortly after. There was some arguing and the players didn't work well together in that regard IIRC. He made a video about it so if you find his channel I'm sure you'll see it. Thanks, dude. Elementz is pretty much done imo. He was amazing with Curse in Spring and if they hadn't dumpstered him i would bet on them in playoffs. But he enjoyed being a coach i guess and i wish that we can get him as analyst for Riot with his game knowledge as well as Chauster. Yeah no problem. Maybe he will make another small comeback some time for the next season of coke zero since he seems to want to stay in the LoL scene. I actually saw him in some Diamond 1 game on a stream, so it seems like he is actually trying to climb the ladder and not being awful anymore. I remember before watching his stream as he struggled in Plat 2 (when he was on Curse). It was painful to watch. So my point is that maybe he actually is taking more steps to improve himself as a player now that he NEEDS to... though I can't ever see him being a top tier support on a good team again. To be honest, i don't think it's highly required for support to be high on ladder. Game knowledge and some mechanics is nuff. Especially for some teams who have no experience. Is that you, Elementz?
Fuck, i can't hide now.
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On January 19 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 07:51 Chicane wrote:On January 19 2014 07:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:45 Chicane wrote:On January 19 2014 07:44 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:He's going to play in Challenger scene with his own team, no? Heard about it. I'm pretty sure it fell apart shortly after. There was some arguing and the players didn't work well together in that regard IIRC. He made a video about it so if you find his channel I'm sure you'll see it. Thanks, dude. Elementz is pretty much done imo. He was amazing with Curse in Spring and if they hadn't dumpstered him i would bet on them in playoffs. But he enjoyed being a coach i guess and i wish that we can get him as analyst for Riot with his game knowledge as well as Chauster. Yeah no problem. Maybe he will make another small comeback some time for the next season of coke zero since he seems to want to stay in the LoL scene. I actually saw him in some Diamond 1 game on a stream, so it seems like he is actually trying to climb the ladder and not being awful anymore. I remember before watching his stream as he struggled in Plat 2 (when he was on Curse). It was painful to watch. So my point is that maybe he actually is taking more steps to improve himself as a player now that he NEEDS to... though I can't ever see him being a top tier support on a good team again. To be honest, i don't think it's highly required for support to be high on ladder. Game knowledge and some mechanics is nuff. Especially for some teams who have no experience.
Soloqueue isn't the deciding factor, but when he lacks the skills to climb the ladder it is a big red flag.
If he had better game knowledge and mechanics he could have climbed more easily.
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On January 19 2014 07:58 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 07:54 Fusilero wrote:On January 19 2014 07:53 Swords wrote:On January 19 2014 07:51 Fusilero wrote:On January 19 2014 07:49 Volband wrote:On January 19 2014 07:47 Dan HH wrote:On January 19 2014 07:45 Mensol wrote:
Dignitas without Patoy = Barcelona without Messi So winning every game but playing slightly less flashy? Patoy is even more overrated than mancloud. Sure, better than Kiwi, but the amount of hype he got back then was unreal. People tend to forget how many Chausters did he pull off. Patoy entered a bizarre zone, where so many people called him underrated that he ended up being overrated. He's a great support but he's not some kinda world beater (Same for xpecial) Considering Patoy wasn't practicing all that much last spit, I don't think he'd be too useful come season 4. His champ pool is pretty much useless in the current meta - Fiddle and Sona get erased by Annie/Lucian/Thresh/Jinx/Sivir. I have a feeling that was a massive factor in dig deciding to remove him, sure he had a great ali/fiddle/sona but he drops off dramatically past them it's quite a constraint in bot lane. He'd have gotten freaking bodied in the current meta. Yupp. Keeping Kiwi on was just such a bad idea though. I watch Qt's stream a bunch, and he has better synergy with random soloqueue players than Kiwikid.
but he is good guy. Dignitas logic.
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On January 19 2014 07:59 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:51 Chicane wrote:On January 19 2014 07:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:45 Chicane wrote:On January 19 2014 07:44 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:He's going to play in Challenger scene with his own team, no? Heard about it. I'm pretty sure it fell apart shortly after. There was some arguing and the players didn't work well together in that regard IIRC. He made a video about it so if you find his channel I'm sure you'll see it. Thanks, dude. Elementz is pretty much done imo. He was amazing with Curse in Spring and if they hadn't dumpstered him i would bet on them in playoffs. But he enjoyed being a coach i guess and i wish that we can get him as analyst for Riot with his game knowledge as well as Chauster. Yeah no problem. Maybe he will make another small comeback some time for the next season of coke zero since he seems to want to stay in the LoL scene. I actually saw him in some Diamond 1 game on a stream, so it seems like he is actually trying to climb the ladder and not being awful anymore. I remember before watching his stream as he struggled in Plat 2 (when he was on Curse). It was painful to watch. So my point is that maybe he actually is taking more steps to improve himself as a player now that he NEEDS to... though I can't ever see him being a top tier support on a good team again. To be honest, i don't think it's highly required for support to be high on ladder. Game knowledge and some mechanics is nuff. Especially for some teams who have no experience. Soloqueue isn't the deciding factor, but when he lacks the skills to climb the ladder it is a big red flag. If he had better game knowledge and mechanics he could have climbed more easily.
He was diamond 2 in Summer, i guess, so it's pretty cute already.
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On January 19 2014 07:58 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 07:58 Volband wrote:On January 19 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:51 Chicane wrote:On January 19 2014 07:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:45 Chicane wrote:On January 19 2014 07:44 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:He's going to play in Challenger scene with his own team, no? Heard about it. I'm pretty sure it fell apart shortly after. There was some arguing and the players didn't work well together in that regard IIRC. He made a video about it so if you find his channel I'm sure you'll see it. Thanks, dude. Elementz is pretty much done imo. He was amazing with Curse in Spring and if they hadn't dumpstered him i would bet on them in playoffs. But he enjoyed being a coach i guess and i wish that we can get him as analyst for Riot with his game knowledge as well as Chauster. Yeah no problem. Maybe he will make another small comeback some time for the next season of coke zero since he seems to want to stay in the LoL scene. I actually saw him in some Diamond 1 game on a stream, so it seems like he is actually trying to climb the ladder and not being awful anymore. I remember before watching his stream as he struggled in Plat 2 (when he was on Curse). It was painful to watch. So my point is that maybe he actually is taking more steps to improve himself as a player now that he NEEDS to... though I can't ever see him being a top tier support on a good team again. To be honest, i don't think it's highly required for support to be high on ladder. Game knowledge and some mechanics is nuff. Especially for some teams who have no experience. Is that you, Elementz? Fuck, i can't hide now.
TIL, Elementz talks in hastags.
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Why does Pobelter always look super sad/depressed?
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Why fp nidalee, hsgg hitrate is 10%.
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Hotshot only eating 1 ban this time?
also, DL's jinx not that impressive tbh.
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